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Chowdown	Posted - 2004.10.03 10:03:00 - [31] Where was BIG? New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!!
Chowdown	Posted - 2004.10.03 10:03:00 - [32] Where was BIG? New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!!
Brian Detaah	Posted - 2004.10.03 10:05:00 - [33] Originally by: Chowdown Where was BIG? In Fountain mining Bistot? ------------------------------------------------ `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' `The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.' `The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master - - that's all.'
Brian Detaah	Posted - 2004.10.03 10:05:00 - [34] Originally by: Chowdown Where was BIG? In Fountain mining Bistot? ------------------------------------------------ `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' `The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.' `The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master - - that's all.'
The Enslaver	Posted - 2004.10.03 10:18:00 - [35] Good question... I thought they were 'defending' that station -------- FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
The Enslaver	Posted - 2004.10.03 10:18:00 - [36] Good question... I thought they were 'defending' that station -------- FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
Aneu Angellus	Posted - 2004.10.03 10:23:00 - [37] Originally by: The Enslaver Good question... I thought they were 'defending' that station More fool you if you think FA give a toss... ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
Aneu Angellus	Posted - 2004.10.03 10:23:00 - [38] Originally by: The Enslaver Good question... I thought they were 'defending' that station More fool you if you think FA give a toss... ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
Vince Draken	Posted - 2004.10.03 10:26:00 - [39] I always knew we (CA) had a large military, but, yesterday suprised even me. Open your maps and look at ships destroyed. Guess who lost nearly all of them?
Vince Draken	Posted - 2004.10.03 10:26:00 - [40] I always knew we (CA) had a large military, but, yesterday suprised even me. Open your maps and look at ships destroyed. Guess who lost nearly all of them?
sapage1	Posted - 2004.10.03 10:34:00 - [41] You have to give credit where credit is due. CFS did have numbers on there side but there were facing a highly organized, disciplined, and motivated group of fulltime pvpÆs that new exactly what there were doing and had full control of the battle field for the get go. We were vastly out number with no form of support btw. I would like to congratulate CFS on quite an amazing 3 hours of fighting. Honestly a lot of people run/safespot/log but you guy defended your space with honor. You have to give credit to those of CFS who defended there space and station especial the ones that went back to more battleships/cruisers/frigates. I am certain I killed many of them a few times. BTW foyle I did not see you offering me any popcorn. /me cries. ___________________________________________________
sapage1	Posted - 2004.10.03 10:34:00 - [42] You have to give credit where credit is due. CFS did have numbers on there side but there were facing a highly organized, disciplined, and motivated group of fulltime pvpÆs that new exactly what there were doing and had full control of the battle field for the get go. We were vastly out number with no form of support btw. I would like to congratulate CFS on quite an amazing 3 hours of fighting. Honestly a lot of people run/safespot/log but you guy defended your space with honor. You have to give credit to those of CFS who defended there space and station especial the ones that went back to more battleships/cruisers/frigates. I am certain I killed many of them a few times. BTW foyle I did not see you offering me any popcorn. /me cries. ___________________________________________________
Lustralis	Posted - 2004.10.03 10:39:00 - [43] Originally by: Joshua Calvert Quote: In conclusion, CA were well organised and CFS were all over the place. Perhaps it is time for some proper defensive organisation in CFS space and imho it is high time freeloaders (calling themselves freelancers) were removed from our space for good. Perhaps your alliances lack of organisation is the reason many of these freelancers are unwilling to lend a hand. You lost over 2 dozen battleships to a much much smaller force. I doubt another 25 BS on your side would have made any difference. Actually, no. They never lend a hand when we try and chase Mace out of Period. Another corp-mate was destroyed the other night and NO ONE came to help him. He is prob. one of the most respected players in the region. As usual, you are talking from through your bum Josh. Another 25 battleships would have been more than enough to (1) make CA think again before attacking and (2) to destroy what was, at the end of the day, a small to medium sized force. In any case, we are not so experienced in fleet battles as the other alliances. The point was that some people sacrificed their ships and pods for the cause and others did not. At the end of the day, I am only suggesting we need to rethink how we do things in the region, including KOS freelancers who don't lend a hand.
Lustralis	Posted - 2004.10.03 10:39:00 - [44] Originally by: Joshua Calvert Quote: In conclusion, CA were well organised and CFS were all over the place. Perhaps it is time for some proper defensive organisation in CFS space and imho it is high time freeloaders (calling themselves freelancers) were removed from our space for good. Perhaps your alliances lack of organisation is the reason many of these freelancers are unwilling to lend a hand. You lost over 2 dozen battleships to a much much smaller force. I doubt another 25 BS on your side would have made any difference. Actually, no. They never lend a hand when we try and chase Mace out of Period. Another corp-mate was destroyed the other night and NO ONE came to help him. He is prob. one of the most respected players in the region. As usual, you are talking from through your bum Josh. Another 25 battleships would have been more than enough to (1) make CA think again before attacking and (2) to destroy what was, at the end of the day, a small to medium sized force. In any case, we are not so experienced in fleet battles as the other alliances. The point was that some people sacrificed their ships and pods for the cause and others did not. At the end of the day, I am only suggesting we need to rethink how we do things in the region, including KOS freelancers who don't lend a hand.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.10.03 11:13:00 - [45] Lustralis, You are showing your lack of class with the personal insult and your belief that 25 more BS would've made a difference. You lost 20-25 BS to a force consisting of 4 BS and a couple of cruiser/frigs. That indicates a much deeper problem than lazy freelancers. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.10.03 11:13:00 - [46] Lustralis, You are showing your lack of class with the personal insult and your belief that 25 more BS would've made a difference. You lost 20-25 BS to a force consisting of 4 BS and a couple of cruiser/frigs. That indicates a much deeper problem than lazy freelancers. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
BEAutiful	Posted - 2004.10.03 11:30:00 - [47] i think there was a website with ideas for a new alliance in cfs.
BEAutiful	Posted - 2004.10.03 11:30:00 - [48] i think there was a website with ideas for a new alliance in cfs.
Lustralis	Posted - 2004.10.03 11:41:00 - [49] Originally by: Joshua Calvert Lustralis, You are showing your lack of class with the personal insult and your belief that 25 more BS would've made a difference. You lost 20-25 BS to a force consisting of 4 BS and a couple of cruiser/frigs. That indicates a much deeper problem than lazy freelancers. I apologise for the PI Josh, but the fact is a lot of BS were lost during undocking. I myself lost a ship due to lag coming from the station. You should not assume those 25 BS lost were due to bad tactics/PvP ability. This is just not so. The fact is, if people had all been camping the station, the firepower would have been overwhelming given the size of the attacking fleet. We had over 40 minutes of warning time to get organised. The defending fleet "relocated" at the last moment. It was something of a farce.
Lustralis	Posted - 2004.10.03 11:41:00 - [50] Originally by: Joshua Calvert Lustralis, You are showing your lack of class with the personal insult and your belief that 25 more BS would've made a difference. You lost 20-25 BS to a force consisting of 4 BS and a couple of cruiser/frigs. That indicates a much deeper problem than lazy freelancers. I apologise for the PI Josh, but the fact is a lot of BS were lost during undocking. I myself lost a ship due to lag coming from the station. You should not assume those 25 BS lost were due to bad tactics/PvP ability. This is just not so. The fact is, if people had all been camping the station, the firepower would have been overwhelming given the size of the attacking fleet. We had over 40 minutes of warning time to get organised. The defending fleet "relocated" at the last moment. It was something of a farce.
Jarra	Posted - 2004.10.03 12:04:00 - [51] Greetings all, for my opinion,I came to fight,and fight i did.I thank CA for smack free fight wich was interesting,mistakes are to learn from. -- Diplomacy is like saying "nice doggy" until u can find a bigger rock:)
Jarra	Posted - 2004.10.03 12:04:00 - [52] Greetings all, for my opinion,I came to fight,and fight i did.I thank CA for smack free fight wich was interesting,mistakes are to learn from. -- Diplomacy is like saying "nice doggy" until u can find a bigger rock:)
benwallace	Posted - 2004.10.03 12:47:00 - [53] Originally by: Jarra Greetings all, for my opinion,I came to fight,and fight i did.I thank CA for smack free fight wich was interesting,mistakes are to learn from. REspects to JARRA --------------------------
benwallace	Posted - 2004.10.03 12:47:00 - [54] Originally by: Jarra Greetings all, for my opinion,I came to fight,and fight i did.I thank CA for smack free fight wich was interesting,mistakes are to learn from. REspects to JARRA --------------------------
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.10.03 13:20:00 - [55] Originally by: Vince Draken I always knew we (CA) had a large military, but, yesterday suprised even me. Open your maps and look at ships destroyed. Guess who lost nearly all of them? hehe yeh, i was hanging at a gate (no camping <_<) and all the sudden i see one CA. I was like finally. Then i counted 2..3..4.. the gate was doing extra work to process it all lol.
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.10.03 13:20:00 - [56] Originally by: Vince Draken I always knew we (CA) had a large military, but, yesterday suprised even me. Open your maps and look at ships destroyed. Guess who lost nearly all of them? hehe yeh, i was hanging at a gate (no camping <_<) and all the sudden i see one CA. I was like finally. Then i counted 2..3..4.. the gate was doing extra work to process it all lol.
crice	Posted - 2004.10.03 14:06:00 - [57] Edited by: crice on 03/10/2004 14:09:20 Although I was busy in the Veldspar belts with Xirtam, I listened in on battles. Much fun and glad to hear the enemies did hold fast. Great job on both ends. Maybe someday Freedom will reign!
crice	Posted - 2004.10.03 14:06:00 - [58] Edited by: crice on 03/10/2004 14:09:20 Although I was busy in the Veldspar belts with Xirtam, I listened in on battles. Much fun and glad to hear the enemies did hold fast. Great job on both ends. Maybe someday Freedom will reign!
Galk	Posted - 2004.10.03 14:15:00 - [59] You just can't knock down like that mate. Doesn't matter who people are, what there corp/alliance banner puts them under. Fact is most of those that are locals and have been for a while, they were out fighting. As for the way it goes, we will learn, just don't knock people ------------------------ ---- Little wonder why people were, what this person was telling my friends: http://galk.50megs.com/logs/
Galk	Posted - 2004.10.03 14:15:00 - [60] You just can't knock down like that mate. Doesn't matter who people are, what there corp/alliance banner puts them under. Fact is most of those that are locals and have been for a while, they were out fighting. As for the way it goes, we will learn, just don't knock people ------------------------ ---- Little wonder why people were, what this person was telling my friends: http://galk.50megs.com/logs/

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