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Lakit	Posted - 2009.07.30 19:05:00 - [1] I was just wanting to get opinions on what to use and the reasons why. I am also looking for decent fits as I cannot access eft right now and won't be able to untill Monday. Thanks -Lakit
Duke Starbuckington	Posted - 2009.07.30 19:05:00 - [2] Originally by: Lakit I was just wanting to get opinions on what to use and the reasons why. I am also looking for decent fits as I cannot access eft right now and won't be able to untill Monday. Thanks -Lakit HML Range
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.07.30 19:21:00 - [3] Originally by: Duke Starbuckington Originally by: Lakit I was just wanting to get opinions on what to use and the reasons why. I am also looking for decent fits as I cannot access eft right now and won't be able to untill Monday. Thanks -Lakit HML Range This.
Coriander Rinne Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2009.07.30 19:28:00 - [4] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Duke Starbuckington Originally by: Lakit I was just wanting to get opinions on what to use and the reasons why. I am also looking for decent fits as I cannot access eft right now and won't be able to untill Monday. Thanks -Lakit HML Range This. That. ---
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.07.30 19:36:00 - [5] Ham for solo, hml for gang. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Neacail	Posted - 2009.07.30 19:37:00 - [6] Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Ham for solo, hml for gang. HMLs for both. Good luck fitting any form of tank with HAMs.
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2009.07.30 19:41:00 - [7] Originally by: Neacail Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Ham for solo, hml for gang. HMLs for both. Good luck fitting any form of tank with HAMs. 4 HAMs + expanded probe launhcer = win
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.07.30 19:52:00 - [8] Originally by: Neacail Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Ham for solo, hml for gang. HMLs for both. Good luck fitting any form of tank with HAMs. It requires an rcu, but even with the rcu hams do more dps. Behold: [Rook, gang] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Signal Distortion Amplifier II Invulnerability Field II BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM Enfeebling Phase Inversion ECM I 'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I 'Umbra' I White Noise ECM Large Shield Extender II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Core Defence Field Extender I Warrior II x5 315 dps 27k ehp [Rook, solo pwnmobile] Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Reactor Control Unit II Invulnerability Field II Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200 Large Shield Extender II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor 'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I 'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile Bay Loading Accelerator I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Warrior II x5 402 dps 24k ehp You can put another ecm in place of the cap booster, but I prefer reliability. You actually have more than a paper tank so missing one jam isn't going to kill you. Capping out and not being able to run your mwd will. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Neacail	Posted - 2009.07.30 19:52:00 - [9] Originally by: Lindsay Logan 4 HAMs + expanded probe launhcer = win Yeah, actually that's one way to do it. 4 HAMs do the same theoretical DPS as 5 HMLs, and the expanded probe launcher in place of a HAM provides enough PG for a LSE. Thanks for the tip. Still, though, if good luck fitting any form of tank with 5 HAMs (and the mandatory MWD).
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.07.30 20:05:00 - [10] Originally by: Neacail Edited by: Neacail on 30/07/2009 19:57:22 Originally by: Lindsay Logan 4 HAMs + expanded probe launhcer = win Yeah, actually that's one way to do it. 4 HAMs do the same theoretical DPS as 5 HMLs, and the expanded probe launcher in place of a HAM provides enough PG for a LSE. Although you might not have enough CPU to fully utilize your mids. Thanks for the tip. Still, though, if good luck fitting any form of tank with 5 HAMs (and the mandatory MWD). Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega It requires an rcu, but even with the rcu hams do more dps. Not worth it IMO. Easier to dictate range with HMLs, not to mention that it'll pop smaller ships much faster. Take off that SDA for another BCU and your DPS will come very close to HAMs. If you could fit 2 BCUs and still get a LSE in there, I'd think differently. The thing is hams already have around 27km range (30km in eft). Your point has 30km range, but once again you want to stay a decent distance inside that so you don't lose point. So the extra range from heavies doesn't really help. The same setup with heavies and an extra bcu: [Rook, solo hml] Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Invulnerability Field II Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200 Large Shield Extender II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor 'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I 'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Bay Loading Accelerator I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Warrior II x5 Identical in every way except for the extra range you don't need and less dps (378). Although the higher precision would be a factor against hacs/cruisers. Basically it comes down to personal preference. Hml and ham are both valid for solo. I prefer hams because they do more dps against bcs and bs, which is what I run into usually. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Neacail	Posted - 2009.07.30 20:11:00 - [11] Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Identical in every way except for the extra range you don't need and less dps (378). Although the higher precision would be a factor against hacs/cruisers. Basically it comes down to personal preference. Hml and ham are both valid for solo. I prefer hams because they do more dps against bcs and bs, which is what I run into usually. Yeah, I guess. I was talking more about the kind of solo fights I get. Basically 8 guys following me around, so confident they can take me that they don't even bother warping out. Dictating range, spreading a gang apart while still doing DPS at 60km+ is the way to go in my book. If I was after 1v1 ganks, I wouldn't be flying a rook (I don't, since I prefer the curse, but you get the idea), I would be in a falcon, pilgrim, arazu or proteus.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.07.30 20:13:00 - [12] Edited by: Malcanis on 30/07/2009 20:14:07 Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega [Rook, solo pwnmobile] Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Reactor Control Unit II Invulnerability Field II Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200 Large Shield Extender II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor 'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I 'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile Bay Loading Accelerator I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Warrior II x5 402 dps 24k ehp You can put another ecm in place of the cap booster, but I prefer reliability. You actually have more than a paper tank so missing one jam isn't going to kill you. Capping out and not being able to run your mwd will. If you drop the small cap booster for a 3rd ECM, you can swap out the RCU + DCU for 2x PDU II and a +3% PG implant. Adds a decent bit of tank: same EHP give or take a few dozen, with almost 20% faster shield recharge. The extra cap means it's more than cap stable as long as you're not running the MWD. Just a thought. EDIT: A bit less EHP, I put a CDFE on not a missile rig.
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.07.30 20:19:00 - [13] Originally by: Neacail Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Identical in every way except for the extra range you don't need and less dps (378). Although the higher precision would be a factor against hacs/cruisers. Basically it comes down to personal preference. Hml and ham are both valid for solo. I prefer hams because they do more dps against bcs and bs, which is what I run into usually. Yeah, I guess. I was talking more about the kind of solo fights I get. Basically 8 guys following me around, so confident they can take me that they don't even bother warping out. Dictating range, spreading a gang apart while still doing DPS at 60km+ is the way to go in my book. If I was after 1v1 ganks, I wouldn't be flying a rook (I don't, since I prefer the curse, but you get the idea), I would be in a falcon, pilgrim, arazu or proteus. Yeah, if you're planning for something like that heavies is the way to go for sure. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Lakit	Posted - 2009.08.01 20:38:00 - [14] so what I am taking from this is that ham= solo more dps and hml= gang safety by distance. Would anyone be able to tell me the dmg of hams compared to hmls on a cruiser, or is there only a large noticable difference on hulls smaller that that. And, what can I count on the two multis to jam if I use some of the fits posted. I understand that there is a limit but I'm just wondering what that limit is. -Lakit
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.08.01 21:09:00 - [15] Originally by: Lakit so what I am taking from this is that ham= solo more dps and hml= gang safety by distance. Would anyone be able to tell me the dmg of hams compared to hmls on a cruiser, or is there only a large noticable difference on hulls smaller that that. And, what can I count on the two multis to jam if I use some of the fits posted. I understand that there is a limit but I'm just wondering what that limit is. -Lakit It depends on the cruiser. Usually hams will do more though. Jamming is probability based. You have a chance to jam anything no matter how many eccms they have. But you should be able to reliably jam battlecruisers and smaller most of the time. Recons and bs are a bit harder but you will still get jams. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Spartan dax	Posted - 2009.08.01 21:23:00 - [16] Two multispecs will jam any one cruisersized ship without ECCM quite well as long as they're not recons. Your shieldextender can soak up the damage from your failed jams. BC's might be tricky as they have higher sensorstrength and more hitpoints so they'll take longer to go down which means more failed jams and more damage for you to soak up. Don't count on tackling BS's for long as neuts will kill you dead. Any smart target will burn away from you forcing you to use your MWD which will cap you out in no time. A small cap booster is probably a good investment.
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.08.01 22:49:00 - [17] Originally by: Spartan dax Two multispecs will jam any one cruisersized ship without ECCM quite well as long as they're not recons. Your shieldextender can soak up the damage from your failed jams. BC's might be tricky as they have higher sensorstrength and more hitpoints so they'll take longer to go down which means more failed jams and more damage for you to soak up. Don't count on tackling BS's for long as neuts will kill you dead. Any smart target will burn away from you forcing you to use your MWD which will cap you out in no time. A small cap booster is probably a good investment. Confirming that a small cap booster is far more useful than a third ecm. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Lakit	Posted - 2009.08.02 00:54:00 - [18] Would a small Injector be enough to save me if I get neuted by a bs with heavies? Being a vaga pilot I accustomed to fighting at range so i will never in suicide asshat range. I guess what I'm asking is will it be anough for me to pulse out of disrupted range when my ECM fails? Do medium injectors not work on rook fits?
Lakit	Posted - 2009.08.02 01:01:00 - [19] Sorry for the typos as I am on my iPhone while posting all of these.
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.08.02 01:21:00 - [20] Originally by: Lakit Would a small Injector be enough to save me if I get neuted by a bs with heavies? Being a vaga pilot I accustomed to fighting at range so i will never in suicide asshat range. I guess what I'm asking is will it be anough for me to pulse out of disrupted range when my ECM fails? Do medium injectors not work on rook fits? Maybe. It's more to let you run the mwd though so people can't burn away or toward you. You want to keep range like a vaga so even if a jam cycle misses you have a bit of safety. Without the speed of a vaga you'll have to run it a lot more though. Medium injectors don't work since it's so short on grid. There's simply no way to fit 5 launchers, an lse, mwd, and a medium injector. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Lakit	Posted - 2009.08.02 01:42:00 - [21] Thanke for all the info

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