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Kronik2k
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Posted - 2009.08.02 23:48:00 -
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Looking to salvage level 3-4 missions and maybe help a lil, I'll split loot 50/50.
Post here !
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Zeek Muaka
Caldari
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.03 04:30:00 -
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Edited by: Zeek Muaka on 03/08/2009 04:30:13
Why not just scan down people and salvage the wrecks?
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.08.03 04:44:00 -
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You are not supposed to ask for salvage.
This is EvE. You are supposed to just take it. And if the MR whose mission you probe out says something, you are supposed to relish in the tears and use them as on opportunity to forget the damages of your bad childhood, if just for a few minutes.
If the MR does not say anything, you are then supposed to assume tears anyway and still use the perceived tears as a means to forget your bad upbringing and all those girls who would not date you, even if just for a few moments.
In between, you call to your mother to make you something to eat. Forget that you are 27 for a moment and still living at home.
What is this game coming to, when people start asking for salvage? Yeeesh.
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Marquis Dean
Caldari
Demise and Vestige
Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.03 06:04:00 -
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You could always come and lend me a hand on salvaging my L4s. Hit me up in game with an eve mail or convo.
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 Originally by: James Russell Lowell
Democracy gives every man the right to be his own oppressor.
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.08.03 06:24:00 -
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Given that salvage is owned by no one prior to it entering a cargohold, there's no moral reason not to salvage away.
And given that missionrunners get the loot by taking it from the destroyed ships of other people, one could argue that there's nothing wrong with looting, either. In fact, nothing's wrong with defending yourself if the missionrunner gets aggressive and blowing up his missionship. Nothing wrong with taunting him in local after salvaging his juicy wreck, then bathing in his tears for the next day, either.
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Ghengis Tia
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Posted - 2009.08.03 14:31:00 -
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Instead of being a mission-runner carebear, you can be a ninja mission-runner salvaging carebear.
OP: I hope someone takes you up on your offer, but trying to bridge the mission-runner/ninja salvager chasm is a daunting task, given that there has been so much invective generated about the whole situation.
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Zhilia Mann
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Posted - 2009.08.03 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kronik2k
Looking to salvage level 3-4 missions and maybe help a lil, I'll split loot 50/50.
Post here !
If you're near the Essence/VV/Citadel border area, ping me if you see me.
I find salvaging incredibly boring and only rarely worth the effort. And I still love mining.
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Kronik2k
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Posted - 2009.08.03 17:44:00 -
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I'm new so using a scanner isn't under my belt yet r o f l
Its kool anyway, found someone to salve with and make me rich beyond my wildest dreams.
I'd appreciate if anyone could tell me how to ninja salvage though ?
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Jim Nakamura
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Posted - 2009.08.03 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kronik2k
I'd appreciate if anyone could tell me how to ninja salvage though ?
Read this
If you can already salvage, all you really need is Astrometrics to 2+ and whichever race's scanning frigate you can fly. More skills will make the process of probing quicker and easier, but you can train the essential skills in a few hours.
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Kronik2k
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Posted - 2009.08.03 18:28:00 -
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Very helpful jim !
Thanks alot mate.
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Kronik2k
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Posted - 2009.08.03 20:12:00 -
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Looking for another guy who'll let me salvage and I'll share 50% of loot !
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Robban77
Caldari
Cynical Cartel
Rat Pack Renegades
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Posted - 2009.08.04 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kronik2k
Looking to salvage level 3-4 missions and maybe help a lil, I'll split loot 50/50.
Post here !
Well i fly out of Nakri, ur welcome to contact me ingame if ur in the area.
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I need my EVE fix. Who would ever know EVE could be so addictive!
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Weight What
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Posted - 2009.08.04 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kronik2k
Looking for another guy who'll let me salvage and I'll share 50% of loot !
Ok, so you'll take 50% of the loot. What will you do in return, my Lord?
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Kronik2k
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Posted - 2009.08.05 17:35:00 -
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I salvage the wrecks and split 50/50, all i need is you to do your mission as normal.
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Aston Vette
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Posted - 2009.08.07 02:45:00 -
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Asking is a great idea.
What's in it for me:
When I run missions, I can run them at a rate which makes stopping to salvage and loot actually hurt my isk/hr rate. If I can get someone to salvage for me and split any amount of the salvage loot, then whatever cut I'm getting supplements my income instead of slowing it down. Looting/salvage also hurts my sec building rate, LP, etc.
What's in it for you:
Wrecks will appear as fast or faster than you can loot and salvage them. You won't have to scan them down. You will only get level 4 missions. You won't get shot at, pulled into recon 3/3 or any other nonsense. I won't waste your time by shooting the wrecks.
If you see me missioning, feel free to contact me. We'll work something out.
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Tranka Verrane
Angelic Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.07 04:39:00 -
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Originally by: Aston Vette
Asking is a great idea.
What's in it for me:
When I run missions, I can run them at a rate which makes stopping to salvage and loot actually hurt my isk/hr rate. If I can get someone to salvage for me and split any amount of the salvage loot, then whatever cut I'm getting supplements my income instead of slowing it down. Looting/salvage also hurts my sec building rate, LP, etc.
What's in it for you:
Wrecks will appear as fast or faster than you can loot and salvage them. You won't have to scan them down. You will only get level 4 missions. You won't get shot at, pulled into recon 3/3 or any other nonsense. I won't waste your time by shooting the wrecks.
If you see me missioning, feel free to contact me. We'll work something out.
Plus as long as you're at least in the same system he'll be able to use tractors, and advantage ninjas don't get, and loot cans safely as well.
Player Since 2005
Over 4000 hours logged
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Klasanov
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Posted - 2009.08.07 07:49:00 -
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feel free to hit me up in Kusomonmon if you're ever in the area.
usually on early mornings Eve time, unless my work schedule changes.
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Dunan Sanis
Lone Star Academy
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Posted - 2009.08.07 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Dunan Sanis on 07/08/2009 11:09:49
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Tanja Cyprus
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Posted - 2009.08.07 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Given that salvage is owned by no one prior to it entering a cargohold, there's no moral reason not to salvage away.
Given that it is the law to stone a ****d woman to death because "she comitted adultry" (thankfully only in some countries), that doesn't make it moral. So all you "Ninja"-Salvagers can dream up any reason you like, just because you can steal, doesn't make it morally right.
Originally by: Kahega Amielden
And given that missionrunners get the loot by taking it from the destroyed ships of other people, one could argue that there's nothing wrong with looting, either. In fact, nothing's wrong with defending yourself if the missionrunner gets aggressive and blowing up his missionship. Nothing wrong with taunting him in local after salvaging his juicy wreck, then bathing in his tears for the next day, either.
The rest of your statement is either too ironical or too stupid to comment upon. Suddenly computergenerated Rats become "people" ... lulz
To the OP, I wonder why not more people go this route, new players could get rich like hell, but there will always be asshats who kill you too, so be careful (and the MR should be careful too...).
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Salliene
Gallente
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.08.07 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tanja Cyprus
Given that it is the law to stone a ****d woman to death because "she comitted adultry" (thankfully only in some countries), that doesn't make it moral. So all you "Ninja"-Salvagers can dream up any reason you like, just because you can steal, doesn't make it morally right.
Hyperbole much?
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Kronik2k
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Posted - 2009.08.07 15:18:00 -
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Yeah, havn't had anyone kill me yet.
Just yesterday a guy told me to come to lowsec + salvage his level 4's r o f l, I was like, I know your going to kill me man...
Got there and he was sound as a pound ! Made around 24Mil and he also gave me a harbinger for phr33 on contract XD.
I've added all of you helpful people so I'll see you in game !
10 Hrs till i can use Harbi !
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Draeklore
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Posted - 2009.08.07 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Given that salvage is owned by no one prior to it entering a cargohold, there's no moral reason not to salvage away.
And given that missionrunners get the loot by taking it from the destroyed ships of other people, one could argue that there's nothing wrong with looting, either. In fact, nothing's wrong with defending yourself if the missionrunner gets aggressive and blowing up his missionship. Nothing wrong with taunting him in local after salvaging his juicy wreck, then bathing in his tears for the next day, either.
Mission runners take loot from NPCs not other players. Though I don't really care someone takes my salvage or loot as I'll just start another mission faster then 
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Triskie
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.08.08 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tanja Cyprus
Given that it is the law to stone a ****d woman to death because "she comitted adultry" (thankfully only in some countries), that doesn't make it moral. So all you "Ninja"-Salvagers can dream up any reason you like, just because you can steal, doesn't make it morally right.
The real life analogies that MR's pull out of their rectum in regards to salvager's are just fricking jaw dropping.. but this one wins first prize in any book..
"Ninja salvaging.. as bad as Shira law"
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Triskie
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.08.08 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tanja Cyprus
Originally by: Kahega AmieldenAnd given that missionrunners get the loot by taking it from the destroyed ships of other people, one could argue that there's nothing wrong with looting, either. In fact, nothing's wrong with defending yourself if the missionrunner gets aggressive and blowing up his missionship. Nothing wrong with taunting him in local after salvaging his juicy wreck, then bathing in his tears for the next day, either.
YARRRR!!
The rest of your statement is either too ironical or too stupid to comment upon.
..and yet you comment upon it.
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Lightningshade
Caldari
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.08.08 20:50:00 -
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Edited by: Lightningshade on 08/08/2009 20:50:36
Originally by: Tanja Cyprus
Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Given that salvage is owned by no one prior to it entering a cargohold, there's no moral reason not to salvage away.
Given that it is the law to stone a ****d woman to death because "she comitted adultry" (thankfully only in some countries), that doesn't make it moral. So all you "Ninja"-Salvagers can dream up any reason you like, just because you can steal, doesn't make it morally right.
Originally by: Kahega Amielden
And given that missionrunners get the loot by taking it from the destroyed ships of other people, one could argue that there's nothing wrong with looting, either. In fact, nothing's wrong with defending yourself if the missionrunner gets aggressive and blowing up his missionship. Nothing wrong with taunting him in local after salvaging his juicy wreck, then bathing in his tears for the next day, either.
The rest of your statement is either too ironical or too stupid to comment upon. Suddenly computergenerated Rats become "people" ... lulz
To the OP, I wonder why not more people go this route, new players could get rich like hell, but there will always be asshats who kill you too, so be careful (and the MR should be careful too...).
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Zhilia Mann
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Posted - 2009.08.08 23:17:00 -
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Edited by: Zhilia Mann on 08/08/2009 23:25:46
Edited by: Zhilia Mann on 08/08/2009 23:24:33
Edited by: Zhilia Mann on 08/08/2009 23:24:05
Originally by: Tanja Cyprus
Given that it is the law to stone a ****d woman to death because "she comitted adultry" (thankfully only in some countries), that doesn't make it moral. So all you "Ninja"-Salvagers can dream up any reason you like, just because you can steal, doesn't make it morally right.
Did you just seriously claim that salvage operations -- which, and I commend them for this -- should follow basically the same rules and morals as conservative Islam?
That, I'm afraid, is patently -- if not ****tardedly -- ridiculous.
You're playing a game. Get with the program. The "moral" offense you've taken -- would it be fair to compare to FGM? -- by being salvaged by someone who didn't ask is self-centered in ways that I can't even imagine -- and it's not like I don't have a tendency towards the same.
Ninja salvagers are the moral equivalent of being stoned to death for crimes that can't, under the strictest forms of Shari'a, be challenged?
Either you're a most effective troll or a moral invalid.
Edit that is possibly not needed but how knows: I play a game that prides itself on moral ambiguity and lack of punishment for people who violate social codes. It's called EVE-Online. If I one day decide to go and do something -- say kill kids (newbs) -- in the game, many people would have a laugh. If I decided to do the same thing to someone -- no, multiple someones -- trying to do the same thing in the real world it would draw extreme moral and legal condemnation.
If you want a nice game, go play one. It's not like salvage could even possibly be an issue compared to gratuitous podding on lowsec gates. And it certainly has nothing to do with extreme moral violations in the outside world. So go emoragequit but please stop posting drivel on how your virtual rights are being virtually violated within a virtual system that has decided exactly which virtual rights you have -- and that you pay for -- and expect anyone to be sympathetic to your virtual complaints about -- and I still have a hard time even getting my mind around this -- taking your salvage being the moral equivalence of non-virtual **** (censored so we'll call it forced, non-consensual sex) and possibly worse?
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