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Buil't2'r
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Posted - 2009.08.03 00:46:00 -
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No need to say what it is dont think i really have to say this if your smart enough to find top in profitable stuff.
Just curious as to what profit margin and what kinda profit margin.
I figure on mine i make on average half on initial cost to make so if it cost me 1isk to make i sell it at 1 1/2.
My mathematic sucks so i dont know what % of profit margin that is.
If you mine all you minerals and think its 100% profit please dont post cause you=noob manufacturer and dont understand time=isk and isk doesnt always require time well at least in a sense.
Also you damn Moon miners i dont wanna hear it. *envious face* same applies to you guys that own t2 bpos again *envious face*
I dont want you to post what it is just the profit margin dont tell me it cost you this much to make and i sell for this much unless you did like me. i.e. 1-1 1/2
Just a curious thread to see where i stand with my profit margin.
Thank you in advance for any posts.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.08.03 01:05:00 -
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Mission margins are awesome.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.08.03 02:04:00 -
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For both trading and industry, percentage profit margins are next to meaningless if your volume is tiny compared to your ISK reserves.
Or, to put it another way, if you're sitting on 1 bil ISK, and you can manufacture in one week various things that costs you 100 mil to make and you can sell at 150 mil ISK (your initial "make at 1, sell at 1.5" thingy), that's ONLY HALF AS GOOD as manufacturing things that cost you 1 bil but sell at 1.1 bil (in other words, "make at 1, sell at 1.1").
Also, the amount of profit will usually depend on amount of ISK available for your activities not just on the percentage margin, but it's going to be harder and harder to leverage all your ISK the more you have to "rotate".
For industry, that's usually the manufacture slots limit... or, for trade, it's both the order limit and your patience to manage that many orders.
To put it another way, you should have no problem keeping 100 mil ISK busy, you might find it easy to do it with 1 bil, but 10 bil can become a chore, and when you reach 100 bil... well... you feel like you'd rather to do something else instead of working with all that ISK.
In other words... there are too many factors to give a simple answer to your question.
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Buil't2'r
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Posted - 2009.08.03 03:20:00 -
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Holy Crap takes the stick away from Akita.
You turned a simple question into something very complicated.
This question is this what thing do you make i.e. ship mod ammo drone....
From Cost of minerals,components, etc etc.
That you turn the biggest profit 1 item im not talking collective of all your products.
1 item 1 thing profit margin.
Lets say you make 1 superduperultracool ship and it cost u X isk to make and you regularly sell it for X. 1 item= 1 profit margin.
There is no extra factors it is a simple question that you turned into something far more difficult 
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.08.03 03:39:00 -
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The problem is even that can't be answered, because it depends on the region you happen to be in and the market at that moment. You have to do market research, looking at the cost of minerals and the selling prices and volumes of all different items to figure it out. Sometimes items sell very well but barely for more than it costs to make. Other items might make huge profit over manufacturing cost but only sell 1 per day.
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Lecherito
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Posted - 2009.08.03 03:55:00 -
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OP seems to be a nutjob.
On a related subject, trading seems to be one of the most lucrative professions in the game. See --> High sec Veldspar mining.
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Baka Lakadaka
Gallente
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.03 03:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Gavin DeVries
The problem is even that can't be answered, because it depends on the region you happen to be in and the market at that moment. You have to do market research, looking at the cost of minerals and the selling prices and volumes of all different items to figure it out. Sometimes items sell very well but barely for more than it costs to make. Other items might make huge profit over manufacturing cost but only sell 1 per day.
Even if it was easy to answer, many people won't.
"Oh look, I found a superdupercool module that makes me 200% profit because no-one else is making it in my area and lots of people want to buy it....what should I do, spend time making lots of ISK before others find out about it, or should I post it on the forums and tell everyone to undercut me?"
Sorry, I know that sounds a little facetious, but it's the truth.
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Buil't2'r
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Posted - 2009.08.03 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Buil't2'r
No need to say what it is dont think i really have to say this if your smart enough to find top in profitable stuff.
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Oh for the love of god trolls.
It is just simple question i dont wanna know what you making does not matter to me.
My only question is what kinda profit do you make 1x 2x 3x ur initial investment.
Simple and freaking plain geez im not asking you to make a program or make a spreadsheet.
Just asking a simple question soo simple. i dont wanna know anything about what you do or anything you do just if you invest 1 isk to do u make 1.25 isk or 2isk or 3isk.
Im just trying to gauge my profit margin compared to other builders i said twice i dont wanna know crap so im gonna say it again I DONT WANNA KNOW WHAT YOUR MAKING I DONT CARE!
A major part of the fun of eve is figuring stuff out if not 95% of the fun dont wanna spoil it i wanna feel like i achieved something.
Im asking such a simple question you guys know what you expect to make something for and what you expect to sell it for yes the prices change just as the market changes im asking for what you regularly expect you profit margin to be.
I should have said can i get an educated guess of what your profit margin is on your best product.
I can make a product and make what i put in and half more than that.(--answer
was just cin if this was the norm or if im doing something wrong.
Simple soo simple you made it difficult or just feel like bein an a.
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Lecherito
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Posted - 2009.08.03 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Baka Lakadaka
Originally by: Gavin DeVries
The problem is even that can't be answered, because it depends on the region you happen to be in and the market at that moment. You have to do market research, looking at the cost of minerals and the selling prices and volumes of all different items to figure it out. Sometimes items sell very well but barely for more than it costs to make. Other items might make huge profit over manufacturing cost but only sell 1 per day.
Even if it was easy to answer, many people won't.
"Oh look, I found a superdupercool module that makes me 200% profit because no-one else is making it in my area and lots of people want to buy it....what should I do, spend time making lots of ISK before others find out about it, or should I post it on the forums and tell everyone to undercut me?"
Sorry, I know that sounds a little facetious, but it's the truth.
Nah mate, this is truth. Also reckon this is the reason why a lot of people have a hard time at first getting into the trading profession. As opposed to mining, exploring, or hauling, anyone who has stumbled upon a profitable operation is going to be more than reluctant to reveal his secrets.
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Buil't2'r
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Posted - 2009.08.03 04:20:00 -
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Do you guys not read the original post and just come in and say crap. Did you just read the subject and decide to post your comment? If so take that crap elsewhere i stated twice in my original post that I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT IS!!!!!!
I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT IS!!!!
I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT IS!!!!
I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT IS!!!!
Read the first post.
I dont want to be told how to play the game i have my jewels that i make n sell just want to see how good my jewels are in comparision to other top manufacturers.
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Steve Thomas
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Posted - 2009.08.03 04:49:00 -
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I got it the first time!
the reality is that whenever you start a how do you make your isk thread here the responses you see are typical
heck some of them are actualy cut and past seems like
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Baka Lakadaka
Gallente
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.03 05:18:00 -
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2 things to say:
1) learn to phrase your question so that people can understand it, spelling correctly helps.
2) if people don't answer your poorly phrased question correctly, try re-phrasing it instead of ranting and behaving like an asshat.
I'm done. Bye.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.08.03 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: Buil't2'r
It is just simple question i dont wanna know what you making does not matter to me. My only question is what kinda profit do you make 1x 2x 3x ur initial investment. Simple and freaking plain geez im not asking you to make a program or make a spreadsheet.
Just asking a simple question soo simple. i dont wanna know anything about what you do or anything you do just if you invest 1 isk to do u make 1.25 isk or 2isk or 3isk.
And we are trying to explain to you how your so-called "simple" question is not so simple at all.
You just THINK it's a simple question because right now, your understanding of it is still simple (to use the mildest possible word).
For a heavy-duty manufacturer, 5% is reasonable, and 10% is very good.
That is, in your words, "1.05 ISK to 1.10 ISK for every 1 ISK used".
Any other "simple" answer which would satisfy you is meaningless... not that this one has a lot of meaning either.
For any 1.00 ISK I invest, I make ANYWHERE from 1.01 ISK to 10.0 ISK back... and sometimes, if I'm unlucky, I make less than 1.00 ISK... of if I'm very lucky, far more than 10.0 ISK.
Still, some of the things that make me 1.01 ISK per 1.00 ISK invested can make me more money than those that make me 10 ISK per 1 ISK invested, because of very high volumes involved.
There's not ONE thing I invest in, at least not for a very long while, it's many things, and they constantly change in time too.
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Steve Thomas
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Posted - 2009.08.03 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Steve Thomas on 03/08/2009 16:33:30
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Buil't2'r
It is just simple question i dont wanna know what you making does not matter to me. My only question is what kinda profit do you make 1x 2x 3x ur initial investment. Simple and freaking plain geez im not asking you to make a program or make a spreadsheet.
Just asking a simple question soo simple. i dont wanna know anything about what you do or anything you do just if you invest 1 isk to do u make 1.25 isk or 2isk or 3isk.
And we are trying to explain to you how your so-called "simple" question is not so simple at all.
You just THINK it's a simple question because right now, your understanding of it is still simple (to use the mildest possible word).
For a heavy-duty manufacturer, 5% is reasonable, and 10% is very good.
That is, in your words, "1.05 ISK to 1.10 ISK for every 1 ISK used".
Any other "simple" answer which would satisfy you is meaningless... not that this one has a lot of meaning either.
For any 1.00 ISK I invest, I make ANYWHERE from 1.01 ISK to 10.0 ISK back... and sometimes, if I'm unlucky, I make less than 1.00 ISK... of if I'm very lucky, far more than 10.0 ISK.
Still, some of the things that make me 1.01 ISK per 1.00 ISK invested can make me more money than those that make me 10 ISK per 1 ISK invested, because of very high volumes involved.
There's not ONE thing I invest in, at least not for a very long while, it's many things, and they constantly change in time too.
and to expand on this, trying to push your returns beyond the base 101-105% return takes work and time. there realy is no magic way of making money in this game short of working on it, and even then the isk game is a perpetual investment of time and isk to make,
Isk for new skill books, new ships, new mods, new ammo new whatever, even if all you use are mods you get from looting and salvageing wrecks for example the fact that you used that module instead of selling it on the open market makes it an investment.
Time as in the time it takes to build up reserve stocks of materials so you can weather and ultimatly ignore the pain game of constantly shifting suply costs in the marketplace, time it takes to get your "ISK production skills" up to 4/5, and ultimatly the time and effort it takes you to learn how to spot oportunites.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.08.03 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Buil't2'r
Do you guys not read the original post and just come in and say crap. Did you just read the subject and decide to post your comment? If so take that crap elsewhere i stated twice in my original post that I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT IS!!!!!!
I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT IS!!!!
I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT IS!!!!
I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT IS!!!!
Read the first post.
I dont want to be told how to play the game i have my jewels that i make n sell just want to see how good my jewels are in comparision to other top manufacturers.
Well when Akita correctly answerd your question the first time you cried about it being complicated.
The simple answer would be to tell you a job that will make you money - no one is going to do that.
The general answer is complex and you seem to be too dumb to understand.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Dodgy Past
Amarr
Lollipops for Rancors
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Posted - 2009.08.03 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: Dodgy Past on 03/08/2009 19:15:45
I have a main ( me ) that has completed the mission grind so he has a setup, ship and agents to allow him to do pretty well at missioning, he's now cross training towards a decent set of PvP skills.
This is now funding my alt who has now started doing T2 manufacturing. I've picked up a bunch of BPOs for T2 items I expect my main and others in my corp to need for PvP fits so I can make them at cost, as a side benefit my corp is helping to fund my alt's skills and the materials as well.
Hopefully over time I'll figure out which products are profitable for market and which aren't and then start to specialise in those further with my alt.
Of course having full access to research labs and manufactring arrays makes this whole process a lot less painful. So I'd suggest ingratiating yourself with a corp who can provide you with research and inventions slots in order to be able to experiment bit.
Since I'm building gear that I expect to use and lose in PvP I suspect there should be demand elsewhere for similar products.
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Steve Thomas
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Posted - 2009.08.03 19:45:00 -
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4,780
thats how many ships are lost every day in pvp in eve.
even adding in new members who need new ships your not looking at all that many sales of individual items in that catagory.
I honestly suspect most of my sales are more or less one time sales to people who need an upgrade ship to PvE in.
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Lightningshade
Caldari
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.08.03 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Buil't2'r
Do you guys not read the original post and just come in and say crap. Did you just read the subject and decide to post your comment? If so take that crap elsewhere i stated twice in my original post that I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT IS!!!!!!
I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT IS!!!!
I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT IS!!!!
I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT IS!!!!
Read the first post.
I dont want to be told how to play the game i have my jewels that i make n sell just want to see how good my jewels are in comparision to other top manufacturers.
How do you know how good your "jewels" are if you can't even work out a simple ROCE or markup - Tard
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Buil't2'r
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Posted - 2009.08.03 22:28:00 -
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Lol i made the post if your a dumb***k asshat thread.
The question is really freaking simple. soo simple i dont want it soo correct that it is something i will stake my ideals on.
Obviously got a bunch of n00b manufacturers that dont make enough isk and are mad when i say i make 1/2 more than my initial investment.
Oh i have jewels i figure with all my production working to max i make at least 3 billion a month. everyday average of 100 mil isk. and that is bare minimum of my profits.
So yea id say if i invest 1 isk and make 1 1/2isk and spend no time mining just strictly buying all components off market for my minimal effort my profits are pretty great.
To sit here and tell me itsss sooo complicated cause the market changes mean you fail pretty bad at manufacturing and should probably stop.
Just shows what kind of dumb***k you are when it comes to making profits.
i figure i stack up pretty well but i not im not among the elite and was hoping an elite would say something instead i got a bunch of trolls that their only response is its too hard to calculate their profits.
If you dont even know what you expect to make you should expect to make fail in large batches fresh out the oven fail.
Thx for all the responses you mentally changelled manufacturers do the game a favor and stop trying you suck go cry in a corner emo kid and think of how to make a profit.
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Jastra
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.03 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Buil't2'r
No need to say what it is dont think i really have to say this if your smart enough to find top in profitable stuff.
Just curious as to what profit margin and what kinda profit margin.
I figure on mine i make on average half on initial cost to make so if it cost me 1isk to make i sell it at 1 1/2.
My mathematic sucks so i dont know what % of profit margin that is.
If you mine all you minerals and think its 100% profit please dont post cause you=noob manufacturer and dont understand time=isk and isk doesnt always require time well at least in a sense.
I dont want you to post what it is just the profit margin dont tell me it cost you this much to make and i sell for this much unless you did like me. i.e. 1-1 1/2
Just a curious thread to see where i stand with my profit margin.
Thank you in advance for any posts.
So all you want to know is the best margin someone makes, is that what you're asking ?
300%+ margin on certain t1 items but totally varies depending on competition at point of sale and also the velocity on those items is slower, so in terms of payback it's often better to sellmore t less margin
Also people will be nicer if you actually pay them some courtesy and dont sound like a spoilt 10 year old ;)
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Buil't2'r
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Posted - 2009.08.03 23:20:00 -
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i should have rephrased my subject as some of these fat ass trolls that decide to post without reading any content and thats when i lost it as that is quite annoying.
Come in and say some dumb crap about this or that when your fata** didnt take the time to read my original post.
Come and blabber about something stupid that is totally of the topic of what i am asking.
And instead of being decent decide to be an a**hat and just say i cant say cause there at too many variables to make a proper equation was just a simple question.
What kind of profit margin do you make off 1 item not a bulk not your daily,weekly,monthly margin of profit.
What is your average profit you make on your top items nothing more nothing less instead i got a bunch of dumb***ks that replied like i dont know what im doing.
If you've got nothing good to say just shut ur piehole and keep your dumbness to yourself.
For most of those posts i feel they should get the billy madison award for making people stupid.
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Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.08.03 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Buil't2'r
For most of those posts i feel they should get the billy madison award for making people stupid.
Yes you should for your posts.
oh and IBTB
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.08.04 01:10:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 04/08/2009 01:16:01
Originally by: Buil't2'r
stuff
You, sir, are a grade A+++ moron. You know, the kind of moron who believes he's so awesome people should kiss his feet, when in fact, he probably belongs in a mental institution. Go back to flipping burgers, please. Nah, go back to washing the floor instead, flipping burgers might be too difficult.
Alternatively, you could start learning some basic math... and maybe take some lessons in basic English spelling. Then you might begin to understant how stupid your posts so far have been, and at least try to do better than that.
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To answer your "simple question" : your profit margin is CRAP.
Every newbie manufacturer with more than a couple of functioning braincells makes more money than you make.
A half-decent T1 manufacturer will make about 3 billion ISK per month. I bet you barely make 300 mil a month, if even that much.
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Steve Thomas
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Posted - 2009.08.04 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: Steve Thomas on 04/08/2009 01:52:33
Im already over 500million net profit per month without having all of my potential product lines up and running full time. part of my problem is a combination that I did not focus on production first, what production I started off with was overinvested in slower moveing items,* and I had a unplaned break in the mean time.
the other part of my problem is that where I am is more of a mineral suppy point for low sec, its not mutch of a mission running area(they are around but what they mostly need is ammo and not ships, and the mining ops around here seem to be mostly self sufficent)
My focus is to run mission to build standings needed for everything I want to do and then start building up my manufacturing.
* slow being a relitive thing, region wide the volume is high(as in for many things a months production from me would cover less than a days worth of sales), but the backlog of unsold intentory was larger than I thought it was.
however every line I have currently has a minimum 150% of base mineral cost margin per sale. . .
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari
Life is Experience
New Eden Hardware Emporium
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Posted - 2009.08.04 02:05:00 -
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check out my spreadsheet that'll tell you what to sell your items for based on the profit percentage you desire.
Akita T - as you're here - take a look at it and tell me what you think, cus I regard your opinion very highly.
Back to the OP - it doesn't matter what profit margin you make as long as you're having fun. Are you having fun? Do you enjoy the logistics of buying selling and manufacturing. Do you put everything on the market or do you have 'private' customers too? Anyway, please check out the spreadsheet if you have access 2007 and let me know what you think of it.
Have fun now.
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Buil't2'r
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Posted - 2009.08.04 02:58:00 -
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really making 3 bil isk for 3-5 hrs worth of game time a month is crappy? Really akita REALLY? sthu newbsauce dont care to hear what you say cause u sound like a tit-baby.
come in and say dumb crap in my post to be an ass like your almight manufacturer.
And with a name like Buil't2'r which is an alt what in you stupid little mind makes you think i product t1?
And to make 3 bln-6bln a month w t1 production=a lot of time mining which makes your comment extra uber fail.
If i added in my mining time and any other time than the time i use just to make my stuff i guess my profits would exceed 10 bln a month.
Guess you think im some uber n00b and the possibility that i could own a few POS's
i make more than 300 mil a month doing absolutely nothing Nothing at all.
You concept of making isk and t1 production is horrible you should get out of manufacturing and just mine for isk and then say i made 2 bln off production when in reality you made 1.25 bln off mining.
Please post again newbsauce.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.08.04 03:07:00 -
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Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 04/08/2009 03:12:11
Advice deleted. OP = ****er.
Quote:
And to make 3 bln-6bln a month w t1 production=a lot of time mining which makes your comment extra uber fail.
Total garbage. Can make much more in T1.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.08.04 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Buil't2'r
And to make 3 bln-6bln a month w t1 production = a lot of time mining which makes your comment extra uber fail.
ZERO time spent mining - buying all minerals with buy orders, selling all products with sell orders, leaving you with 3-6 bil extra ISK difference AFTER covering the entire costs (orders, broker fees, sales tax, manufacture slot fees).
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Lecherito
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Posted - 2009.08.04 03:21:00 -
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hey assking, maybe you should spend some of your "billions" on some basic grammar and formatting classes?
-L
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Buil't2'r
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Posted - 2009.08.04 03:27:00 -
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There is only 1 avenue of t1 production that is fruitful to use buy n sell orders.
Oh and you might as well mine if you wanna invest that kinda time playing the market or making the jumps all around space in a frieghter.
Your solution=more than 5 hrs a month playtime keep failing.
Maybe when apoc came out the profits were that great hmm would love to see some1 say they make that kinda isk on t1 production on smaller ships.
Keep suggesting stupid things please troll go back to mission running.
You are much more knowledge in another area t1 production on anything less than what we all know is a waste of time.
But you can keep trying i like hearing your stupid responses.
Cause soo many players just have 20 bil worth of bpos sitting in their hangars.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.08.04 03:34:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 04/08/2009 03:40:40
Originally by: Buil't2'r
There is only 1 avenue of t1 production that is fruitful to use buy n sell orders.
Oh and you might as well mine if you wanna invest that kinda time playing the market or making the jumps all around space in a frieghter.
Your solution=more than 5 hrs a month playtime keep failing.
Oh, right, because you "couldn't possibly" purchase the materials at the location you're doing the manufacture, and you "have" to move the materials yourself if you're buying them somewhere else since courier contracts don't exist, and you "need to be online contantly" in order to buy or sell anything at all with orders instead of directly to/from existing orders...
..."right" ?
Quote:
Cause soo many players just have 20 bil worth of bpos sitting in their hangars
Oh, yeah, sure, you can "only" make a profit in T1 manufacture if you use BPOs worth aprox. 2 bil each, "right" ?
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P.S. Anyway, if you're such a "great" profit-maker, why don't you ENLIGHTEN us with your great knowledge, and explain to us in great detail (without naming the actual products, of course) what you "manufacture" and how exactly do you calculate your "profits", and how large your profits are ?
You know, pretty much what you asked of us to do, but you haven't.
Lead by example !
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Mia Morningstar
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Posted - 2009.08.04 07:32:00 -
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if you have less than 1bill of liquid isk
in mission hubs (profit margins are usually better):
- large ammo (cruise missiles, antimatter L, etc.)
- cap boosters (mainly 200, 400 and 800)
- hurricane, harbinger (salvage boats) - in a mission hub, you should make profit even with bought BPCs
- tractor beams (donŠt have named alternatives)
- salvagers (donŠt have named alternatives)
- drone navig. computer, drone link augmentor (donŠt have named alternatives)
- t1 cloak
in trade hubs
- t1 gas cloud harvester (not everywhere, not always)
- cynosural field generator (not everywhere, not always)
if you have more than 1 bill liquid isk
in trade hubs
- t1 rigs (buy salvage using buy orders in mission hubs) - very competitive market
PD: profit margin is irrelevant, what matters is absolute profit per day per manufacturing line.
e.g. you can manufacture 100 items/day/manufacturing line with 100% profit margin but the absolute profit will be only 2M/day/manufacturing line
or
you can manufacture 5 items/day/manufacturing line with 5% profit margin but the absolute profit can be 20M/day/manufacturing line
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Mudad
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.04 10:26:00 -
[33]
I'll give you 3/10 for trolling since you got past page 1 and kept Akita here. However may I suggest general discussion or, if your realy keen, CAOD are far more fertile grounds for spouting garbage repeatedly, and your audience will be more on your level
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Originally by: CCP Whisper
Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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jamaican herbs
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Posted - 2009.08.04 11:35:00 -
[34]
If op is not a a troll then lol
Yah op nice way to come seek for an advice and then claim you make gazillion in a month. Enlighten us how to make isk right, oh superior one
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Cogswin Iannyen
Caldari
Ordos Apocrypha
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Posted - 2009.08.04 11:57:00 -
[35]
I make stuff, and then I sell it. And later, I take the profits, buy more stuff to make into other things and sell THEM too! Moar profit! I use spreadsheets so I know what my costs are and what my margains are. Extra Moar Profit!
Wait, did I misunderstand the question?
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oil
University of Caille
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Posted - 2009.08.04 12:59:00 -
[36]
i made about 90 billion since end of april. thats a less than a billion per day. i do that with station trading in comodities and with an average investment of about 150 billion. long stretches of stagnating profits are followed by short bursts of massive profits or even losses if i make bad decisions or get surprised by developements. for instance i made about 40 bill from a recent spike and lost 10 bill to a recent crash.
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CAPSLOCKBROKE
Exploratory Technologies
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Posted - 2009.08.04 16:45:00 -
[37]
See my sig, thanks.
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Buil't2'r
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Posted - 2009.08.04 23:41:00 -
[38]
well im not an elitest and im quite a lazy guy.
I own more than a few billion in bpos lets say that to start and i dont have just 1 account but im not chribba crazy im moderate in comparsion.
I rotate between for different t2 productions and i make at minimum 4000 a month.
on my other end of production i use my accumalated isk to invest on pricy bpos.
So i make 12 really big ships every month.
My t2 productions brings me between 300-600k profit perunit or more or less after 500 units made the last 500 are profit.
I use the Henry Ford methond for my profits i know there is a lot of smarter players than me and make way more isk than me and was hoping they would post just wanna see if im a minnow or a trout or a big *** tuna in the ocean.
I figure for being a self sufficient no corporation help i do decent.
I am by no means the best but i am by no means a newb.
I was just hoping for a fun thread and it turned into something far from that. 
Wasnt making a serious thread just something i thought would get a fun response but my subject lead to uber fail of the worst kind cause all people was thread and thought i was trying to get over on someone.
I was just wanted to see where i stacked up in the grand scheme of things.
Wasn't trying to be a jerk but was on low sleep and fuel and was not in the mood for the posts.
So if you took offense to my posts i apologize was not my intended idea.
But anyway last post from me just answered the ? to me and comment on my thoughts for this post.
~I Buil T2 RRRR~
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.08.05 03:55:00 -
[39]
Even the best have bad days, I guess, so... lesson learned, I suppose 
EVE issues|Mining revamp|Build stuff|Make ISK |
Wardo21
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Posted - 2009.08.05 04:00:00 -
[40]
Short answer:
If you're happy with your profits, you're making enough to justify however many accounts you have running, to the only person here that matters, yourself.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.08.06 13:12:00 -
[41]
No one worries about margins themselves - Im not sure we can explain this any simpler.
What matters is isk per real time invested.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Gort
Minmatar
Storm Guard Elite
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Posted - 2009.08.18 22:01:00 -
[42]
wow, this went downhill fast, even for Eve forums....
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profian
Amarr
Blood Bringers
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Posted - 2009.08.19 12:50:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Buil't2'r
Do you guys not read the original post and just come in and say crap. Did you just read the subject and decide to post your comment? If so take that crap elsewhere i stated twice in my original post that I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT IS!!!!!!
I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT IS!!!!
I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT IS!!!!
I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PRODUCT IS!!!!
Read the first post.
I dont want to be told how to play the game i have my jewels that i make n sell just want to see how good my jewels are in comparision to other top manufacturers.
Perhaps you could bottle up your emo rage and sell that?
You need to do research just like every other trader has, they're unlikely to hand you information gained from their hard labour to someone who act's incredibly childish. There's plenty of traders guides out there and some in the stickys in this forum. have a read through; assimilate, and chill the hell out.
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