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Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 3961	Posted - 2012.05.26 20:12:00 - [1] - Quote Does posting in the assembly hall still have any value as far as you are concerned? If so, please quantify that value. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Seleene Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion 1632	Posted - 2012.05.26 23:22:00 - [2] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Does posting in the assembly hall still have any value as far as you are concerned? If so, please quantify that value. TBH, it's actually something we're going to discuss at the summit. ATM it does seem to be the step-child of the forums. CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter!
Indahmawar Fazmarai 691	Posted - 2012.05.27 09:49:00 - [3] - Quote Seleene wrote: Malcanis wrote: Does posting in the assembly hall still have any value as far as you are concerned? If so, please quantify that value. TBH, it's actually something we're going to discuss at the summit. ATM it does seem to be the step-child of the forums. Well, it suffers from the same verbal diarrhea clutterness as "Features & Ideas". This issue resembles the one that publishers used to have with original manuscripts; too many verbosity to actually read all of it, which was dealt with specialyzed "review readers" who just gave a go/no go in several steps until few selected originals made it to the top for actual publishing review. This kind of review process is both uncool and un-internetish, and of course is very intensive on the use of Human Intelligence. Also, as somone put it, "Your customers are to be heard, but only your investors must be listened..." EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it.
Revolution Rising Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 330	Posted - 2012.05.28 07:02:00 - [4] - Quote Human nature, I'm sure there's a patch in the works to fix it. People will always post on an issue without having read up on the topic or even the OP a lot of the time. I find a lot of replies to things I write where people haven't even read my post through to the end before flying off at the handle. They then make the exact same points I make at the end of my original post. If CCP can patch this it would be great ;) CSM7 Skype Leak
Tech3ZH Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 19	Posted - 2012.05.28 22:13:00 - [5] - Quote Rev, I can't believe you would say something like that! Have you no shame!? You are a horrible, horrible person!!!1!
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 3982	Posted - 2012.05.28 22:21:00 - [6] - Quote Tech3ZH wrote: Rev, I can't believe you would say something like that! Have you no shame!? You are a horrible, horrible person!!!1! I had to bite my tongue when i read it to too Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Revolution Rising Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 332	Posted - 2012.05.29 03:33:00 - [7] - Quote lol which particular part? I was obnoxious in so much of it.. ? :) Hard to put my finger on it... CSM7 Skype Leak
Hans Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance 2408	Posted - 2012.05.29 10:59:00 - [8] - Quote I personally am of the belief that we should roll the Assembly Hall threads into the Features and Ideas discussion of the forums, as they are essentially the same thing. Historically, Assembly Hall proposals were used as part of a voting process that essentially just hoisted those issues onto an extensive official backlog, which is only now beginning to erode away after some of the features released in Crucible and Inferno. Given the fact that we can talk to CCP year round now, there is no longer the pressure to have only a selective list of items to discuss at a summit, we can discuss anything with CCP and get a more immediate sense of whether it can be addressed in the near future. I'd much rather have a central forum location to propose new features and ideas, as well as a separate forum section for issues and feedback, rather than the Assembly Hall which becomes this mushy mix of both. Given the much more open communication we have with CCP today, I see no practical benefit to continuing an archaic system of logging issues onto a list which may or may not be addressed by CCP any time soon. I'd prefer to have more focused and organized forum feedback than to have players posting [Proposals] thinking that using brackets assigns some sort of officiality that no longer exists. This is just my opinion given my experience so far, like Seleene said it'll certainly be something we discuss with CCP at the summit. We're long overdue for updating and streamlining this process and giving players a clear understanding of how to get involved and be useful. Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 3989	Posted - 2012.05.29 11:03:00 - [9] - Quote Revolution Rising wrote: lol which particular part? Im obnoxious in so many ways... ? :) Hard to put my finger on it now days... Since you ask... Revolution Rising wrote: I find a lot of replies to things I write where people haven't even read my post through to the end before flying off at the handle. They then make the exact same points I make at the end of my original post. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Revolution Rising Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 332	Posted - 2012.05.29 12:43:00 - [10] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Revolution Rising wrote: lol which particular part? Im obnoxious in so many ways... ? :) Hard to put my finger on it now days... Since you ask... Revolution Rising wrote: I find a lot of replies to things I write where people haven't even read my post through to the end before flying off at the handle. They then make the exact same points I make at the end of my original post. Well that is actually true... a few times people have completely ruined threads because they didn't read the entire post to see that I totally turned the logic I started in the first paragraph or two completely around by the end of it, and totally made the point that they ineptly rage about thereafter ;) I'm just keepin' it real brother :) CSM7 Skype Leak
Bossy Lady Aliastra Gallente Federation 65	Posted - 2012.06.12 14:16:00 - [11] - Quote Seleene wrote: Malcanis wrote: Does posting in the assembly hall still have any value as far as you are concerned? If so, please quantify that value. TBH, it's actually something we're going to discuss at the summit. ATM it does seem to be the step-child of the forums. Would it be too NDA-breaking to give us a hint or two? Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M.
Dersen Lowery Children of Armok Ushra'Khan 35	Posted - 2012.06.12 14:51:00 - [12] - Quote Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: I'd much rather have a central forum location to propose new features and ideas, as well as a separate forum section for issues and feedback, rather than the Assembly Hall which becomes this mushy mix of both. As you point out, F&I is a logical source for new ideas; with CCP's far more active communication channels, the EVE Information Portal now has plenty of feedback. I'm sure they'll patch the signal/noise ratio as soon as they find a way to.
MeBiatch Republic University Minmatar Republic 384	Posted - 2012.06.12 19:04:00 - [13] - Quote Seleene wrote: Malcanis wrote: Does posting in the assembly hall still have any value as far as you are concerned? If so, please quantify that value. TBH, it's actually something we're going to discuss at the summit. ATM it does seem to be the step-child of the forums. i was going to say that assembly hall is kinda obselete... ccp seems to have bipassed it by doing thier own croudsourcing plus you guys have your own priorites which are repsentative of your electorate (me included) so personally i dont see a real use for it anymore... PLEX FOR PIZZA! tech III industrial ships!
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 4083	Posted - 2012.06.19 06:38:00 - [14] - Quote Can the CSM confirm that the question was addressed and that the minutes contain the discussion? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Hans Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance 2548	Posted - 2012.06.19 10:12:00 - [15] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Can the CSM confirm that the question was addressed and that the minutes contain the discussion? Yes, we asked the question and the discussion should be documented in the minutes. Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 4083	Posted - 2012.06.19 12:24:00 - [16] - Quote Cheers Hans, much appreciated. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

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