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Neill Myhere	Posted - 2009.08.07 17:29:00 - [1] I'm looking to start running level 4s after a stint from empire. My question is whether to use a Dominix (or possibly a Megathron Navy Issue) or to train up cruise missles and Caldari BS 5 on my alt. My Gallente toon has Gallente BS 5 with t2 sentry drones and will soon have Drone Interfacing 5 with AWU 5 to be trained soon afterwards. My alt has decent missle support skills, but the time I spent training for tech 2 Cruise Launchers and a second BS 5 might be better spent else where. I guess my question boils down to: Would training for a perfectly skilled Raven/ Golem be worth the time invested versus missioning in a Dominix and later a Kronos?
Gavin DeVries	Posted - 2009.08.07 17:59:00 - [2] Going from Raven into Golem is a natural progression. Dominix into a Kronos is a total change of missioning style. The Dominix is, from my understanding as I don't fly one, a tremendously good all-around mission boat. While you don't have control over your damage type from your guns, the vast majority of your damage comes from drones which you do control. The Domi has enough drone space to pack multiple flights of drones to be used depending on the situation, while the Kronos doesn't have nearly as much. In a Kronos you're back to carrying a full flight of lights and medium drones, or giving those up to fit heavy/sentries and not being able to field 5 at a time if you do. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
Gredos	Posted - 2009.08.07 19:20:00 - [3] the Raven/Golem will probably do the missions faster. So, I recomend that, but atm I do my missions in a Navy Megathron which is decently fast, and definitely faster than the dominix.
Fearless M0F0 Coalition Of Nations.	Posted - 2009.08.07 21:04:00 - [4] Edited by: Fearless M0F0 on 07/08/2009 21:04:21 Originally by: Neill Myhere I'm looking to start running level 4s after a stint from empire. My question is whether to use a Dominix (or possibly a Megathron Navy Issue) or to train up cruise missles and Caldari BS 5 on my alt. Dominix, the last good Gallente ship is going to get nerfed to death when CCP rolls sleeper AI to all mission NPCs. You better start training Raven in all your Gallente chars.
naotsu	Posted - 2009.08.07 21:42:00 - [5] Originally by: Fearless M0F0 Edited by: Fearless M0F0 on 07/08/2009 21:04:21 Originally by: Neill Myhere I'm looking to start running level 4s after a stint from empire. My question is whether to use a Dominix (or possibly a Megathron Navy Issue) or to train up cruise missles and Caldari BS 5 on my alt. Dominix, the last good Gallente ship is going to get nerfed to death when CCP rolls sleeper AI to all mission NPCs. You better start training Raven in all your Gallente chars. Excuse me, where did you get this information?
Gavin DeVries	Posted - 2009.08.07 22:20:00 - [6] I believe that's the eventual intention, but CCP said that before they could apply Sleeper AI to mission rats they'd have to completely redesign both the mission and the deadspace area to accommodate it. I don't think it's going to be happening soon. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2009.08.07 23:01:00 - [7] Originally by: Gavin DeVries I believe that's the eventual intention, but CCP said that before they could apply Sleeper AI to mission rats they'd have to completely redesign both the mission and the deadspace area to accommodate it. I don't think it's going to be happening soon. There was some tentative comment by Devs about applying it to some new mission for starter and slowly change or phase out the old missions. About the Domi/Raven question. A max skilled T2 fitted Dominix is probably on par with a max skilled T2 fitted Raven (as was beyond a Raven before getting a max skilled Dominix it is hard to compare), but the Raven has more powerful variants (Navy Raven and Golem) while the Dominix hasn't them. Then if you wan to maximize returns you have even more faction option for the Raven family (all the Caldari Navy missile stuff and so on) with the possibility to further increase your damage and so completing the missions faster. The Dominix damage dealing capability peak way faster as the current faction drones are less powerful than T2 (same total DPs but split damage) and those that will be implemented in the near future will have 10% less damage in exchange for better tracking. So at most you can further increase your tank, but that will not allow you to be faster completing missions. So, in my eyes, the Raven family is by a long shot the best all around mission ship, with the Dominix a reasonably close second for the vanilla Raven, but a long shot for the more advanced ships and fittings.
Marzaris Onbarny	Posted - 2009.08.08 01:52:00 - [8] Because your going to be doing NPC rats and you know what they tank and what they gank the raven is a better set up heres why. You can do straight dmg to their lowest resist, as well as use the 5 med and 5 light (also racial drones) to clean up the inties and frigs. The cruise missels will let you knock down the dmg enough that you never have to warp out and last but not least is that the Navy Raven is the CHEAPEST of the faction bs. Buy one, then get 7 caldari launchers like 330 mil (the ship itself is somewhere in the 350-450 range, toss come cap rigs on and a standard t2 fitting (which you change per each race. change your missle type and drones for each mission and you will spend more time in your salvager than you will in your gun boat. Biggeest reason is cost the CNR is cheap and can be fitted Good-enough with tech 2 items and perhaps faction missle launchers.
Neill Myhere	Posted - 2009.08.08 04:43:00 - [9] Thanks for the replies so far. I guess the next question is how do the Navy Megathron and Kronos compare to the Caldari Navy Raven and Golem. I don't particularly like cruise missles because of NPC defender missles effect on dps, but torps don't seem to be viable on a mission runner. If say, a torp Golem was viable I would probably head that route as all I would need is Caldari BS 5. Is a torp Golem viable?
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2009.08.08 05:54:00 - [10] Originally by: Neill Myhere Thanks for the replies so far. I guess the next question is how do the Navy Megathron and Kronos compare to the Caldari Navy Raven and Golem. I don't particularly like cruise missles because of NPC defender missles effect on dps, but torps don't seem to be viable on a mission runner. If say, a torp Golem was viable I would probably head that route as all I would need is Caldari BS 5. Is a torp Golem viable? 1) Torp golem: I am a long range buff so I prefer cruiser missiles but a torp Golem is perfectly viable. If you read Kerfira posts about his return mission running it is better than a cruiser Golem by a good margin. 2) Navy Meghatron is better than the Kronos (more drones) but both suffer because the main damage (the guns) has a fixed kind of damage.
Belsazzar	Posted - 2009.08.08 11:40:00 - [11] Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Neill Myhere Thanks for the replies so far. I guess the next question is how do the Navy Megathron and Kronos compare to the Caldari Navy Raven and Golem. I don't particularly like cruise missles because of NPC defender missles effect on dps, but torps don't seem to be viable on a mission runner. If say, a torp Golem was viable I would probably head that route as all I would need is Caldari BS 5. Is a torp Golem viable? 1) Torp golem: I am a long range buff so I prefer cruiser missiles but a torp Golem is perfectly viable. If you read Kerfira posts about his return mission running it is better than a cruiser Golem by a good margin. 2) Navy Meghatron is better than the Kronos (more drones) but both suffer because the main damage (the guns) has a fixed kind of damage. Wow, that had me lol! kronos is way better than navy mega. set up the kronos with 3 tracking comps, 4 magstabs and you will rip so fast thru cruisers and bs you only JUST have time to salvage the BS before mission is over. You dont have time to manage drones beyond killing the frigs because you have so much to do with switching target and salvage so more drones on navy is a moot point. The 3 tracking comps will allow you to vary optimal range from 36 to 51 KM with antimatter. No cruiser will take more than 2 salvos even with transversal 400 km/h.
Lyra Blazing	Posted - 2009.08.08 14:23:00 - [12] Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Gavin DeVries I believe that's the eventual intention, but CCP said that before they could apply Sleeper AI to mission rats they'd have to completely redesign both the mission and the deadspace area to accommodate it. I don't think it's going to be happening soon. There was some tentative comment by Devs about applying it to some new mission for starter and slowly change or phase out the old missions. About the Domi/Raven question. A max skilled T2 fitted Dominix is probably on par with a max skilled T2 fitted Raven (as was beyond a Raven before getting a max skilled Dominix it is hard to compare), but the Raven has more powerful variants (Navy Raven and Golem) while the Dominix hasn't them. Then if you wan to maximize returns you have even more faction option for the Raven family (all the Caldari Navy missile stuff and so on) with the possibility to further increase your damage and so completing the missions faster. The Dominix damage dealing capability peak way faster as the current faction drones are less powerful than T2 (same total DPs but split damage) and those that will be implemented in the near future will have 10% less damage in exchange for better tracking. So at most you can further increase your tank, but that will not allow you to be faster completing missions. So, in my eyes, the Raven family is by a long shot the best all around mission ship, with the Dominix a reasonably close second for the vanilla Raven, but a long shot for the more advanced ships and fittings. Wrong. The Domi with t2 sentry fit and 350s is easly better then a t2 raven. And also does more dps then any no torp raven fit. A Gank Domi will also outdps most navymega or kronos fits with the advantage to be able to at least fit 50 % of its dps to the mission rats. See the following fit: [Dominix, Lanas sentry domi] Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Large Armor Repairer II Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Drone Link Augmentor I Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Sentry Damage Augmentor I Sentry Damage Augmentor I [empty rig slot] Garde II x5
Jewel DeNyle	Posted - 2009.08.08 15:12:00 - [13] This is a bit off topic but i generally find i can run the missions just fine in a plain old raven t2 fit (although i do use faction damage mods) My reasoning is you never know when your internet is going to crash and i would hate to be scrammed in a mission with a billion isk fit! My 2cents JD
Belsazzar	Posted - 2009.08.08 16:24:00 - [14] Originally by: Lyra Blazing Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Gavin DeVries I believe that's the eventual intention, but CCP said that before they could apply Sleeper AI to mission rats they'd have to completely redesign both the mission and the deadspace area to accommodate it. I don't think it's going to be happening soon. There was some tentative comment by Devs about applying it to some new mission for starter and slowly change or phase out the old missions. About the Domi/Raven question. A max skilled T2 fitted Dominix is probably on par with a max skilled T2 fitted Raven (as was beyond a Raven before getting a max skilled Dominix it is hard to compare), but the Raven has more powerful variants (Navy Raven and Golem) while the Dominix hasn't them. Then if you wan to maximize returns you have even more faction option for the Raven family (all the Caldari Navy missile stuff and so on) with the possibility to further increase your damage and so completing the missions faster. The Dominix damage dealing capability peak way faster as the current faction drones are less powerful than T2 (same total DPs but split damage) and those that will be implemented in the near future will have 10% less damage in exchange for better tracking. So at most you can further increase your tank, but that will not allow you to be faster completing missions. So, in my eyes, the Raven family is by a long shot the best all around mission ship, with the Dominix a reasonably close second for the vanilla Raven, but a long shot for the more advanced ships and fittings. Wrong. The Domi with t2 sentry fit and 350s is easly better then a t2 raven. And also does more dps then any no torp raven fit. A Gank Domi will also outdps most navymega or kronos fits with the advantage to be able to at least fit 50 % of its dps to the mission rats. See the following fit: [Dominix, Lanas sentry domi] Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Large Armor Repairer II Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Drone Link Augmentor I Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Sentry Damage Augmentor I Sentry Damage Augmentor I [empty rig slot] Garde II x5
Belsazzar	Posted - 2009.08.08 16:25:00 - [15] Originally by: Belsazzar Originally by: Lyra Blazing Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Gavin DeVries I believe that's the eventual intention, but CCP said that before they could apply Sleeper AI to mission rats they'd have to completely redesign both the mission and the deadspace area to accommodate it. I don't think it's going to be happening soon. There was some tentative comment by Devs about applying it to some new mission for starter and slowly change or phase out the old missions. About the Domi/Raven question. A max skilled T2 fitted Dominix is probably on par with a max skilled T2 fitted Raven (as was beyond a Raven before getting a max skilled Dominix it is hard to compare), but the Raven has more powerful variants (Navy Raven and Golem) while the Dominix hasn't them. Then if you wan to maximize returns you have even more faction option for the Raven family (all the Caldari Navy missile stuff and so on) with the possibility to further increase your damage and so completing the missions faster. The Dominix damage dealing capability peak way faster as the current faction drones are less powerful than T2 (same total DPs but split damage) and those that will be implemented in the near future will have 10% less damage in exchange for better tracking. So at most you can further increase your tank, but that will not allow you to be faster completing missions. So, in my eyes, the Raven family is by a long shot the best all around mission ship, with the Dominix a reasonably close second for the vanilla Raven, but a long shot for the more advanced ships and fittings. Wrong. The Domi with t2 sentry fit and 350s is easly better then a t2 raven. And also does more dps then any no torp raven fit. A Gank Domi will also outdps most navymega or kronos fits with the advantage to be able to at least fit 50 % of its dps to the mission rats. See the following fit: [Dominix, Lanas sentry domi] Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Large Armor Repairer II Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Drone Link Augmentor I Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Sentry Damage Augmentor I Sentry Damage Augmentor I [empty rig slot] Garde II x5 Gankdomi may deal a little damage, but then u have to come back for the salvage. Marauder ftw.
Neill Myhere	Posted - 2009.08.08 17:48:00 - [16] Well, It looks like I'll be running missions in a Dominix for the time being. I'll probably train up Caldari BS 5 on my alt for a Golem just because I like using torpedoes. My next question is... salvaging. Is looting and salvaging a mission outside a Marauder worth the time or is blowing through missions for LPs and bounties just as profitable?
FlyinS Caldari Planetary Industry and Trade Organization	Posted - 2009.08.08 18:13:00 - [17] Having used both Ravens and Domis for L4's, I would say go Raven. The Domi certainly isn't bad for the job but the Raven seems to go much faster if for no other reason than you don't have to worry about missions where the rats target drones as soon as you drop them. The Navy Mega is a badass mission ship as well but can run into problems with rats that maintain long range from your ship.
Belsazzar	Posted - 2009.08.08 18:42:00 - [18] Edited by: Belsazzar on 08/08/2009 18:44:21 domi is more versatile. Make a tank and and you can go afk in it. Pull all agro, launch drones and come back 15 minutes later to collect the isk. That way you can also set all highs to salvager/tractor
Belsazzar	Posted - 2009.08.08 18:46:00 - [19] Originally by: FlyinS Having used both Ravens and Domis for L4's, I would say go Raven. The Domi certainly isn't bad for the job but the Raven seems to go much faster if for no other reason than you don't have to worry about missions where the rats target drones as soon as you drop them. The Navy Mega is a badass mission ship as well but can run into problems with rats that maintain long range from your ship. kronos does not have this problem :D
Craeder	Posted - 2009.08.08 20:15:00 - [20] Originally by: Gavin DeVries I believe that's the eventual intention, but CCP said that before they could apply Sleeper AI to mission rats they'd have to completely redesign both the mission and the deadspace area to accommodate it. I don't think it's going to be happening soon. I could be paranoid but today I was running AE4 in a dominix, I had a 28 km orbiting tribuni with the red square indicating I had aggro but not attacked or locked while working on the frigates. It was shooting missiles at my drones several times while recalling them. Also had a close orbit battleship at 8km shooting missiles at the drones while using cannons on me. I think I finally got their attention when I started hitting them with a targeting painter.
Vikram Bedi Cerberus Battletech Corporation Eternus Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.11 22:54:00 - [21] Originally by: Craeder Originally by: Gavin DeVries I believe that's the eventual intention, but CCP said that before they could apply Sleeper AI to mission rats they'd have to completely redesign both the mission and the deadspace area to accommodate it. I don't think it's going to be happening soon. I could be paranoid but today I was running AE4 in a dominix, I had a 28 km orbiting tribuni with the red square indicating I had aggro but not attacked or locked while working on the frigates. It was shooting missiles at my drones several times while recalling them. Also had a close orbit battleship at 8km shooting missiles at the drones while using cannons on me. I think I finally got their attention when I started hitting them with a targeting painter. I noticed the same thing last night. My drones were getting way more attention than they normally do. Even when I had what looked like full aggro, my drones were still taking hits.
Descrambled	Posted - 2009.08.12 03:53:00 - [22] Originally by: Lyra Blazing Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Gavin DeVries I believe that's the eventual intention, but CCP said that before they could apply Sleeper AI to mission rats they'd have to completely redesign both the mission and the deadspace area to accommodate it. I don't think it's going to be happening soon. There was some tentative comment by Devs about applying it to some new mission for starter and slowly change or phase out the old missions. About the Domi/Raven question. A max skilled T2 fitted Dominix is probably on par with a max skilled T2 fitted Raven (as was beyond a Raven before getting a max skilled Dominix it is hard to compare), but the Raven has more powerful variants (Navy Raven and Golem) while the Dominix hasn't them. Then if you wan to maximize returns you have even more faction option for the Raven family (all the Caldari Navy missile stuff and so on) with the possibility to further increase your damage and so completing the missions faster. The Dominix damage dealing capability peak way faster as the current faction drones are less powerful than T2 (same total DPs but split damage) and those that will be implemented in the near future will have 10% less damage in exchange for better tracking. So at most you can further increase your tank, but that will not allow you to be faster completing missions. So, in my eyes, the Raven family is by a long shot the best all around mission ship, with the Dominix a reasonably close second for the vanilla Raven, but a long shot for the more advanced ships and fittings. Wrong. The Domi with t2 sentry fit and 350s is easly better then a t2 raven. And also does more dps then any no torp raven fit. A Gank Domi will also outdps most navymega or kronos fits with the advantage to be able to at least fit 50 % of its dps to the mission rats. See the following fit: [Dominix, Lanas sentry domi] Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Large Armor Repairer II Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Drone Link Augmentor I Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Gallente Navy 350mm Railgun, Guristas Antimatter Charge L Sentry Damage Augmentor I Sentry Damage Augmentor I [empty rig slot] Garde II x5 This. Domi is wayyyy more versatile then a Raven its just not close
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2009.08.12 07:02:00 - [23] Originally by: Descrambled Then again I am having awful flashbacks of certain bugged exploration sites where Drones didnt do any damage to those sentry towers. Not sure if CCP ever got around to fixing this bug. Not sure if there are any missions that are bugged to drones like this It is still around, sometime drones don't damage structures. I always have this doubt if it happens against ships sometime.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2009.08.12 07:06:00 - [24] Originally by: Belsazzar Edited by: Belsazzar on 08/08/2009 18:44:21 domi is more versatile. Make a tank and and you can go afk in it. Pull all agro, launch drones and come back 15 minutes later to collect the isk. That way you can also set all highs to salvager/tractor Versatile != efficient. While I have some serious doubt about this "afk dominix" myth (unless you mean that it can be done in a very restricted range of missions), doing any mission truly AFK is a great way to do them very slowly.
Guillieme Lohran	Posted - 2009.08.12 12:40:00 - [25] Yeah, that bug is still there. It seems to pop up in various missions from time to time.
Soliscout	Posted - 2009.08.12 13:25:00 - [26] Edited by: Soliscout on 12/08/2009 13:29:18 Edited by: Soliscout on 12/08/2009 13:25:22 Not a Domi though...but since you have Gallente BS V anyway, you might consider this one aswell [Megathron Navy Issue, my mega] Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Amarr Navy Large Armor Repairer N-Type Kinetic Hardener I N-Type Kinetic Hardener I N-Type Explosive Hardener I N-Type Explosive Hardener I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Gallente Navy Stasis Webifier 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Drone Link Augmentor I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Something like this and you will do very well in most missions...change hardeners to faction ones and T2 large guns or gallente navy 425er....works like a charm the webber is just a test..you can fit a tracking comp instead or another cap recharger
Descrambled	Posted - 2009.08.12 14:17:00 - [27] Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Belsazzar Edited by: Belsazzar on 08/08/2009 18:44:21 domi is more versatile. Make a tank and and you can go afk in it. Pull all agro, launch drones and come back 15 minutes later to collect the isk. That way you can also set all highs to salvager/tractor Versatile != efficient. While I have some serious doubt about this "afk dominix" myth (unless you mean that it can be done in a very restricted range of missions), doing any mission truly AFK is a great way to do them very slowly. That's just the nature of drone boats they require little active input from the pilot. A dual MAR Domi running CCCs is simply a monster. And don't even bring up 0.0 exploration or anything else. A Domi can reserve a slot for cloaks and not suffer performance. When I do exploration sites in my dual MAR w/ 3 x CCCs I always keep a cloak on. This way when hostiles enters the system I can safespot and cloak.
Traska Gannel	Posted - 2009.08.12 15:49:00 - [28] Originally by: Neill Myhere Thanks for the replies so far. I guess the next question is how do the Navy Megathron and Kronos compare to the Caldari Navy Raven and Golem. I don't particularly like cruise missles because of NPC defender missles effect on dps, but torps don't seem to be viable on a mission runner. If say, a torp Golem was viable I would probably head that route as all I would need is Caldari BS 5. Is a torp Golem viable? Yes a torp Golem is very viable - I use one for L4 missions all the time. However, to be very effective it requires a large skill investment. With max missile range skills, a 5% missile velocity implant, and missile velocity and flight time rigs - a Golem will have a range over 60km with Javelin torps and over 40km with faction or regular torps. My usual fit is high: 4 T2 launchers, 3 tractor beams (40km range) mid: 2 Pith B small boosters, Shield boost amp (opt), 2 or 3 rat specific hardeners, 1 or 2 painters, AB (opt) low: 3 CN BCS and a T2 DC I use the Pith B smalls since they are cheap - if you can afford a Pith B medium it saves a mid slot. Some missions are easier with an AB in the mids. Modules should be selected to balance DPS and tank for specific missions (e.g. 4 BCS). A minimum of Marauder IV is recommended. With a couple of painters the torps have no trouble with NPC AFs.
Borun Tal Minmatar Virtual Rock Industries	Posted - 2009.08.12 17:16:00 - [29] Edited by: Borun Tal on 12/08/2009 17:17:58 Originally by: Vikram Bedi Originally by: Craeder Originally by: Gavin DeVries I believe that's the eventual intention, but CCP said that before they could apply Sleeper AI to mission rats they'd have to completely redesign both the mission and the deadspace area to accommodate it. I don't think it's going to be happening soon. I could be paranoid but today I was running AE4 in a dominix, I had a 28 km orbiting tribuni with the red square indicating I had aggro but not attacked or locked while working on the frigates. It was shooting missiles at my drones several times while recalling them. Also had a close orbit battleship at 8km shooting missiles at the drones while using cannons on me. I think I finally got their attention when I started hitting them with a targeting painter. I noticed the same thing last night. My drones were getting way more attention than they normally do. Even when I had what looked like full aggro, my drones were still taking hits. Agreed. While it's not a new thing (my drones have been getting hammered last few weeks), I lost about 11 Warrior II's between two ships (Raven & Drake) in a mission last night. This weekend I ran some Infiltrators and Praetors in a tough mission and they seemed to be readily targeted more than my usual T2 drones...
Kedhar	Posted - 2009.08.12 21:52:00 - [30] With such high Gallente skills train for a Kronos. You can do all the missions easy with this setup. You get 50km optimal range, 768 dps cap stable tank against gurista and 964 dps gank with hammerheads II, imps and caldari navy antimatter with this fitting. [Kronos, New Setup 1] Large Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Tracking Computer II Tracking Computer II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Capacitor Control Circuit II Capacitor Control Circuit II Hammerhead II x5 Against angels switch to a blaster fitted Kronos with 1422 dps with void and 6,8 km optimal or 1151 dps with null and 11 km optimal range. [Kronos, New Setup 1 copy 1] Large Armor Repairer II Armor Explosive Hardener II Armor Explosive Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer 100MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Capacitor Control Circuit II Capacitor Control Circuit II Hammerhead II x5

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