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Theprimaryisthesecondary istheprimary
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.28 02:51:00 -
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Thx for the inventory system, now you have to switch to that ship then you can check the drone bay. Or you have to prepare enough drones for everyship to reduce the massive click.
The inventory system is really a failing design |
Laken Starr
Shadowfire Enterprises
Rura-Penthe
14
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Posted - 2012.05.28 03:27:00 -
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I've heard that flowers and romantic dinners work quite well. |
Avid Bumhumper
Furian Necromongers
61
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Posted - 2012.05.28 03:31:00 -
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Theprimaryisthesecondary istheprimary wrote:Thx for the inventory system, now you have to switch to that ship then you can check the drone bay. Or you have to prepare enough drones for everyship to reduce the massive click. The inventory system is really a failing design
Better yet, try moving stuff in and out of your carrier....
My Tinfoil hat has been sugically implanted, so no,it is not for sale..... |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
2231
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Posted - 2012.05.28 04:11:00 -
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Also the active ship floating in the docking bay doesn't have option to access Drone Bay via right click menu. Have to open Inventory first, then click on the Drone Bay listed in the Inventory Tree.
The new Inventory application is not very user friendly. |
Croniac
Thunder Chickens
17
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Posted - 2012.05.28 04:21:00 -
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I use missiles to tear open another ships drone bay and reach the creamy goodness inside. But I have heard that most weapon types work pretty well. |
Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
58
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Posted - 2012.05.28 04:52:00 -
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CCP fail. |
Sloppy Podfarts
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2012.05.28 05:04:00 -
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Theprimaryisthesecondary istheprimary wrote:The inventory system is really a failing design
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
The new Inventory application is not very user friendly.
Cloned S0ul wrote:
Now people need study how this new turd works.
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Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Dark Matter Coalition
1100
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Posted - 2012.05.28 05:08:00 -
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Cloned S0ul wrote:Since EvE exist no one mention old inventory system because it was so natural and perfect to players like no other things in game, every player just adapt to this like child after born adapt to mother, it was like first taste of mother milk - you taste it you like it- is natural, no need to thinking about this no need mention this and no needs to fix it.
It was so natural that everyone even newbi, who start own EvE adventure in rooki system, adapt to it after first look and touch.
Now people need study how this new turd works.
Actually I find that a LOT of newbs get lost int he differences between ship hanger, item hangar, and the ship cargo bay cause they all looked the same.
I also often get people trying to put stuff into their ship via assets.
In this regard the new system is MUCH more natural for a new player especially since they have no existing habits that you all whine about not being able to do. xD
The Drake is a Lie |
Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
59
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Posted - 2012.05.28 05:10:00 -
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Sloppy Podfarts wrote:Theprimaryisthesecondary istheprimary wrote:The inventory system is really a failing design DeMichael Crimson wrote:
The new Inventory application is not very user friendly.
Cloned S0ul wrote:
Now people need study how this new turd works.
Your face... Because of eve ;) |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
170
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Posted - 2012.05.30 11:07:00 -
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Kinda hoping this will be fixed in the next patch as it can be rather frustrating. Any news on this one CCP?
CCP, WHEN AM I GOING TO GET MY CORP BACK? KINDA WANT MY STUFF BACK FROM THE HANGARS. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
Comic Mischief
687
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Posted - 2012.05.30 16:33:00 -
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Huh? Whats the issue? You do know you just click the little triangle beside the ship name in the tree and all the bays for that ship are displayed in the tree? Then just drag what you want to the proper entry in the tree, or shift click it to see whats already in there so you can add any needed extra stuff. It does not have to be an active ship.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
392
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Posted - 2012.05.30 16:41:00 -
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I never realized a command tree was so complicated and confusing. It's a wonder that half of you can even run your computer considering considering how many programs use the same feature.
Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
2242
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:35:00 -
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For me, the Inventory Window just added more mouse clicks to the game along with requiring the use of a magnifying glass to view the Inventory Tree icons.
Oh it looks all pretty and has some cool accessories but the functionality of it is definitely 2 steps backwards compared to the original system.
It was nice of CCP to replace the active ship icon back into the ship's hangar window while docked. However, it seems they forgot to include the right click option to access the Drone Bay. Still have to open Inventory first, then click on the Drone Bay listed in the Inventory Tree.
Maybe the right click option to open Drone Bay will be included with the next patch. |
Serene Repose
Perkone
Caldari State
846
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:37:00 -
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You don't have to do any more with this system than you do withWindows Explorer. Under each ship it says "Drone Bay." Just trust that drag-and-drop. Wanna see inside? Just highlight that "Drone Bay" and presto.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
hedge betts Shiyurida
State War Academy
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:44:00 -
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Is this a joke......
All you have to do is click the arrow on the left of the ship you want to look at. You do not have to switch shIPs.
If you have a cargo pod in your bay or a ship with a drone bay it will appear under the ship who's arrow you have click on.
YOU DO NOW HAVE TO SWITCH SHIPS
How mental stunted are the majority of eve players.
Fuk me I give up, I beggars belief.
Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
B0rg Hakaari
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:51:00 -
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Theprimaryisthesecondary istheprimary wrote:Thx for the inventory system, now you have to switch to that ship then you can check the drone bay. Or you have to prepare enough drones for everyship to reduce the massive click. The inventory system is really a failing design
You just need to scroll down the new crappy ui, for about 1 hour and 32 minutes, until you reach the bottom where the drone directory is.....
If you still can't find it, run chkdsk
;-P Thanks to the new crappy ui I have more time to play other games, thank you ccp failures |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
2243
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:36:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:You don't have to do any more with this system than you do withWindows Explorer. Under each ship it says "Drone Bay." Just trust that drag-and-drop. Wanna see inside? Just highlight that "Drone Bay" and presto.
Yesss, you do have to do something different. That's open up the Inventory window FIRST and THEN click small icons to access Drone Bay and Cans. Wrecks and Cans in space require even more 'click' action.
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:Is this a joke......
All you have to do is click the arrow on the left of the ship you want to look at. You do not have to switch shIPs.
If you have a cargo pod in your bay or a ship with a drone bay it will appear under the ship who's arrow you have click on.
YOU DO NOW HAVE TO SWITCH SHIPS
How mental stunted are the majority of eve players.
Fuk me I give up, I beggars belief.
Seems some players have low levels of reading comprehension skills.
Just exactly how is it better having to open the Inventory FIRST just to access the Drone Bay, Wreck or Cargo Container? |
Seishi Maru
doMAL S.A.
16
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:46:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:I never realized a command tree was so complicated and confusing. It's a wonder that half of you can even run your computer considering considering how many programs use the same feature.
You know why internet browsers do not show the site structure as a tree videw even internally it being a tree? Notice how a new separate tab is the norm? Why? BEcause tree views are HORRIBLE . That is also why their usage is every day less comoon on interafaces and its considered by most interface designers and an horrible mechanic!
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
182
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:13:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Serene Repose wrote:You don't have to do any more with this system than you do withWindows Explorer. Under each ship it says "Drone Bay." Just trust that drag-and-drop. Wanna see inside? Just highlight that "Drone Bay" and presto. Yesss, you do have to do something different. That's open up the Inventory window FIRST and THEN click small icons to access Drone Bay and Cans. Wrecks and Cans in space require even more 'click' action. hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:Is this a joke......
All you have to do is click the arrow on the left of the ship you want to look at. You do not have to switch shIPs.
If you have a cargo pod in your bay or a ship with a drone bay it will appear under the ship who's arrow you have click on.
YOU DO NOW HAVE TO SWITCH SHIPS
How mental stunted are the majority of eve players.
Fuk me I give up, I beggars belief. Seems some players have low levels of reading comprehension skills. Just exactly how is it better having to open the Inventory FIRST just to access the Drone Bay, Wreck or Cargo Container?
I may be missing something with wrecks and cargo containers as I open those exactly the same as before even with the inventory closed. Drone bay sure, but the ops complaint wasn't about extra clicks, it was about having to have that ship active to access the drone bay, which is clearly a user issue since the UI can access drone bays on inactive ships just fine. |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
416
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:19:00 -
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If they had left in the ability to just right-click on a ship to open a bay or hold this wouldn't be an issue. Instead we now have to make with the windows scrolling on the mini-bar thing to find our ship, then open it, then access the bay. Oh, you wanted to get those drones from a different area, scroll back up and find them, shift-click it open, then go get your ship again and move them.
PITA
Check out the new Orca model, brought to you by the Unified Inventory System
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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
394
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:43:00 -
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Seishi Maru wrote:THE L0CK wrote:I never realized a command tree was so complicated and confusing. It's a wonder that half of you can even run your computer considering considering how many programs use the same feature. You know why internet browsers do not show the site structure as a tree videw even internally it being a tree? Notice how a new separate tab is the norm? Why? BEcause tree views are HORRIBLE . That is also why their usage is every day less comoon on interafaces and its considered by most interface designers and an horrible mechanic!
I hope you have a citation for that statement about interface designers. Let me ask you, how many years have you used windows xp? Your start up menu, yeah, that's a tree. Did you have trouble navigating through that?
BTW my browser, firefox, has a tree menu built right into it. Yep, right there on the firefox tab. hmm, lets go to menu-booksmarks-recent bookmarks. Maybe I'll load up my sidebar showing my bookmarks or history, why look, all of that is in tree format.
I would also like a citation for its usage being less common on programs because I can name a half dozen that have added it since their creation making it far easier to use said program. Go ahead and get those links, I'll wait.
Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
B0rg Hakaari
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.05.30 20:19:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:
I hope you have a citation for that statement about interface designers. Let me ask you, how many years have you used windows xp? Your start up menu, yeah, that's a tree. Did you have trouble navigating through that?
BTW my browser, firefox, has a tree menu built right into it. Yep, right there on the firefox tab. hmm, lets go to menu-booksmarks-recent bookmarks. Maybe I'll load up my sidebar showing my bookmarks or history, why look, all of that is in tree format.
I would also like a citation for its usage being less common on programs because I can name a half dozen that have added it since their creation making it far easier to use said program. Go ahead and get those links, I'll wait.
I don't recall any GAMEZ using it(besides Hacker games(some are very good btw) that recreate a operating system).....but if you love playing "WindowsXP".....hurray for you............ |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
2245
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Posted - 2012.05.30 20:36:00 -
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MadMuppet wrote:If they had left in the ability to just right-click on a ship to open a bay or hold this wouldn't be an issue. Instead we now have to make with the windows scrolling on the mini-bar thing to find our ship, then open it, then access the bay. Oh, you wanted to get those drones from a different area, scroll back up and find them, shift-click it open, then go get your ship again and move them.
PITA
Exactly what I was trying to say, thank you very much.
The same applies to wrecks and cans.
THE L0CK wrote:Seishi Maru wrote:THE L0CK wrote:I never realized a command tree was so complicated and confusing. It's a wonder that half of you can even run your computer considering considering how many programs use the same feature. You know why internet browsers do not show the site structure as a tree videw even internally it being a tree? Notice how a new separate tab is the norm? Why? BEcause tree views are HORRIBLE . That is also why their usage is every day less comoon on interafaces and its considered by most interface designers and an horrible mechanic! I hope you have a citation for that statement about interface designers. Let me ask you, how many years have you used windows xp? Your start up menu, yeah, that's a tree. Did you have trouble navigating through that? BTW my browser, firefox, has a tree menu built right into it. Yep, right there on the firefox tab. hmm, lets go to menu-booksmarks-recent bookmarks. Maybe I'll load up my sidebar showing my bookmarks or history, why look, all of that is in tree format. I would also like a citation for its usage being less common on programs because I can name a half dozen that have added it since their creation making it far easier to use said program. Go ahead and get those links, I'll wait.
Don't know what sidebar tree you're talking about, my Firefox Browser has tabs and header with drop down menus. Same as my old computer with Windows XP. Also the 'Start Up' menu is actually a pop up menu, not a miniaturized tree format. Also all of those open up in separate Windows, hence the plural usage of the word.
Nuff said. |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
394
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Posted - 2012.05.30 20:50:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Don't know what sidebar tree you're talking about, my Firefox Browser has tabs and header with drop down menus.
Ctrl-B. You're welcome.
B0rg Hakaari wrote:I don't recall any GAMEZ using it(besides Hacker games(some are very good btw) that recreate a operating system).....but if you love playing "WindowsXP".....hurray for you............
Oh hey sweetie. Yeah, you're playing one you silly goose.
Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Bad Messenger
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
143
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Posted - 2012.05.30 21:04:00 -
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Every new operating system or user interface is trying to get rid of menu like systems as new inventory system is, they try to make new way just like eve old inventory system was, old system was 20 years ahead its time. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
2245
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Posted - 2012.05.30 21:17:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:
I may be missing something with wrecks and cargo containers as I open those exactly the same as before even with the inventory closed. Drone bay sure, but the ops complaint wasn't about extra clicks, it was about having to have that ship active to access the drone bay, which is clearly a user issue since the UI can access drone bays on inactive ships just fine.
When I'm looting and salvaging, I like to have my ships cargo hold open in a different window separate from wreck and can windows to do selective looting / item transfers.
As it is now, I approach the wreck or can with my ships cargo hold open, click 'open' in the selected item window, my ships cargo hold window now turns into the wreck or can's hold, I then have to shift click the miniature wreck/can icon in the Inventory Tree for the wreck or can to open up in a separate window, then have to reclick and open my ships cargo hold so I can do selective looting / item transfer.
And yes I've done the drag and drop items from wreck/cans into the miniature inventory tree icons, problem is it's too much of a hassle. My eyes are getting old and it's bad enough dealing with the miniature text in the overview and on screen pop up messages. I definitely don't want to stare at some more miniature text/icons for transferring loot. It's like trying to hit the miniature 'X' and 'O' and '-' icons to close, pin or minimize the window |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
2245
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Posted - 2012.05.30 21:21:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Don't know what sidebar tree you're talking about, my Firefox Browser has tabs and header with drop down menus.
Ctrl-B. You're welcome.
Wow, didn't know that.
Doesn't matter anyway, why would I want to use the keyboard to access that tree when I'm already navigating my browser with the mouse, tabs and header drop down menus. |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
394
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Posted - 2012.05.30 21:39:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:THE L0CK wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Don't know what sidebar tree you're talking about, my Firefox Browser has tabs and header with drop down menus.
Ctrl-B. You're welcome. Wow, didn't know that. Doesn't matter anyway, why would I want to use the keyboard to access that tree when I'm already navigating my browser with the mouse, tabs and header drop down menus.
You perform the same motion whether its in the drop down or on that sidebar, the only difference is the layout. I use my mouse still when I go through the options, ctrl-b is simply the shortcut to open it. And we've been going through the same motions with the market window as well for a very long time now. The inventory window is no different from that.
Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
323
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Posted - 2012.05.31 01:51:00 -
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Theprimaryisthesecondary istheprimary wrote:Thx for the inventory system, now you have to switch to that ship then you can check the drone bay. Or you have to prepare enough drones for everyship to reduce the massive click. The inventory system is really a failing design
Well... Tracking disruptors will be affecting missiles soon, with no added counter...
so, maybe the next thing CCP will do will be to make it so that Energy Transfers can be used to supply energy to enemy drones, causing a feedback loop that will destroy said drones, with no added counter.... which would actually solve your problem, because then you wouldnt' want to use drones anymore   
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