So i've not been playing eve for almost 2 years, and just got back, i noticed that an event called Hulkageddon is something that is really popular, i do alot of highsec mining, as i am to bad for pvp, and i really suck in any game pvp, as i am just bad at games.

currently u only activated 1 of my 3 accounts, as i wanted to do some level 2 missions to learn a little about combat.

however my question is, this hulkageddon, dont people wwho attack in highsec, get nuked by CONVOY? or is Highsec no longer protected ground?

If you take precautions then you will be ok.

Think of it this way, if you go into the ghetto alone at night flashing a lot of money, you will probably get jumped. Same thing here

oh well, its still a game, and there is always risk in a game.. ofcasue i get mad loosing a ship now and then, but i get over it.

thats why this game is fun

So i've not been playing eve for almost 2 years, and just got back, i noticed that an event called Hulkageddon is something that is really popular, i do alot of highsec mining, as i am to bad for pvp, and i really suck in any game pvp, as i am just bad at games.

currently u only activated 1 of my 3 accounts, as i wanted to do some level 2 missions to learn a little about combat.

however my question is, this hulkageddon, dont people wwho attack in highsec, get nuked by CONVOY? or is Highsec no longer protected ground?

They thing is you have to be vigilant. Get to know the different ship types. If someone enters the belt in something other than a mining ship or hauler, better go dock.

oh well, its still a game, and there is always risk in a game.. ofcasue i get mad loosing a ship now and then, but i get over it.

thats why this game is fun

I would refrain from giving such advice to new players, if a ganker arrives on grid, it's too late to warp, mining barges and exhumers don't exactly align quickly.

The miner has to adjust his mindset and only fly what he can afford to lose

someone wants to mine, they should be aware of those things and would have greater chances of surviving Hulkageddon.

If a ganker arrives on grid and it's too late to warp it doesn't make the advice negative. If suddenly a tornado lands 100km away chances are you might make it. It doesn't hurt to try. What else can you do? I warp out when I see tech 2 faction ship enter a belt cause I know they could kill me in 5 seconds maximum. He may or may not be there to kill me, but atleast I know I'm safe.

EXACTLY. That's the BEST advice for EVE, not just for Miner's.

I mine everyday and personally I've not seen more activity than usual. I'm sure statistically in the EVE Universe killing Mining Barges has increased but personally I haven't witnessed it. I have seen the usual corpse floating out of like 60 people mining the ice belts.

The thing is in hi-sec if you attack another player you will lose security rating. 0.5% for aggression, 2% for ship destruction, and 12.5% for pod killing. There's only so many ships you could attack including a chance that CONCORD will destroy your ship.

According to kill-eve.net the average Retriever lost per day is 6 for the EVE Universe. 12 per day for the Hulk. There's 26,765 players on right now. If only 1% of those are mining, you have a 2-4% of getting killed. It's really not that much.

If you take precautions then you will be ok.

Think of it this way, if you go into the ghetto alone at night flashing a lot of money, you will probably get jumped. Same thing here

oh well, its still a game, and there is always risk in a game.. ofcasue i get mad loosing a ship now and then, but i get over it.

thats why this game is fun

::EDIT:: confirming it should be over

They will kill you before CONCORD arrives. CONCORD has a 20 second response time. A 5 million ISK ship will kill you in 8 seconds easily with the right skills.

trying to warp away is pointless as it's already too late if you're dealing with a ganker, hence my recommendations to use local and dscan, like anyone venturing out of highsec should know, because these are early indicators allowing the miner to warp to a safe place before the gankers lands on grid.

Of course, hitting warp just for the sake of it is natural, but I found it better to warn new player that it's pointless and raise the attention on weaknesses and solar system awareness as it might prove usefull beyond the sole scope of mining.
Reacting when the ship lands on grid is recipe for a lossmail and a bad advice, it's just a matter of facts.

I remember a minning op with a corpmate to collect veld for heavy missiles, him in a rokh, my alt in a covetor T2 strips and crystals... he mined more than I did in the same period of time.

I tested it last night and would say that in 1.0 CONCORD's response time is nearer 5 seconds. Obviously it wouldn't be so prompt in 0.5 but I don't know if the curve in between is linear or not. Clearly, especially with a passive targetter, it would be quite possible to alpha a T1 barge with a cheap T1 fit destroyer even in 1.0, thereafter success would depend on your recycle time I guess.

I don't know what you mean by a passive targeter, but I think this is a misconception. CONCORD won't stop you locking another ship in highsec, only firing. If they are using alpha it doesn't matter if the CONCORD time is 1 or 100 seconds as they only get on their way after the shells have hit the hull :)
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Unfortunately, it has been extended indefinitely until further notice.

Check General Discussion forum for further details.

There exist services to help mitigate losses for miners in Hulks.

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So you believe that not reacting when a warship lands on grid is better advice than reacting.... and pray he leaves you alone?

You can't apply low-sec rules to hi-sec. Not everyone is trying to kill you for one thing. If I'm mining in a system with 100 people how does watching local help? People come and go constantly. dscan will tell you whose running missions near you. How does that help?


A fitted Rokh yields 891/ore a minute with practically no cargohold and costs about 300 million. A Covetor does 1146/ore a minute and costs under a 100 million. Without Mining Foreman bonuses. Obviously you're doing something wrong.

Hulk is only few days away from Covetor, 299 million with a 1609/ore yield and 8000 cargohold.

oh well, its still a game, and there is always risk in a game.. ofcasue i get mad loosing a ship now and then, but i get over it.

thats why this game is fun

Pay attention and assume everyone in your belt is out to get you and you'll be fine.

So i've not been playing eve for almost 2 years, and just got back, i noticed that an event called Hulkageddon is something that is really popular, i do alot of highsec mining, as i am to bad for pvp, and i really suck in any game pvp, as i am just bad at games.

currently u only activated 1 of my 3 accounts, as i wanted to do some level 2 missions to learn a little about combat.

however my question is, this hulkageddon, dont people wwho attack in highsec, get nuked by CONVOY? or is Highsec no longer protected ground?