EVE Search - ishtar for c1/2 wormholes

All Channels

Ships and Modules

ishtar for c1/2 wormholes

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
hobo deluxe	Posted - 2009.08.10 15:02:00 - [1] after plowing trough a couple of threads for ishtar fits i came up with this fit : [Ishtar, explorer] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Armor Explosive Hardener II Capacitor Power Relay II Codebreaker I 10MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Small Tractor Beam I Salvager I Salvager I Small Remote Armor Repair System II Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I Capacitor Control Circuit I Auxiliary Nano Pump I I intend to fill it with as many t1 drones as i can carry since sleepers are rumored to hate drones , the small rr is for repping some drones if needed. it tanks 309dps perma , omni is this enough ? will flying at 550m/s mitigate some of the damage? simply put , is this setup good enough for what i intend to dow ith it or are there some easy improvements? Ogre I x5 Hammerhead I x15 Ogre I x4
Ceryshen	Posted - 2009.08.10 16:00:00 - [2] Swap a cap recharger for a large cap battery and you can drop the cap rig for another ANP or something else. You'll have to save a few CPU somewhere - cheapo faction hardener should do it.
Guillieme Lohran	Posted - 2009.08.10 16:24:00 - [3] Are T1 drones going to even scratch Sleepers? You might want something to draw aggro.
hobo deluxe	Posted - 2009.08.10 16:29:00 - [4] oh 5 ogre I's do 360 dps with my skills , not phenomenal but i want to get a feel for sleepers before risking more money.
kingofallgimps Minmatar 11th Gimp Inc	Posted - 2009.08.10 16:32:00 - [5] How about 2 small remote reps, and 5 sentries, web, power diagnostic systems and shield tank it? screw you guys, im goin home
hobo deluxe	Posted - 2009.08.10 17:13:00 - [6] Originally by: kingofallgimps How about 2 small remote reps, and 5 sentries, web, power diagnostic systems and shield tank it? Worth a try , ill see what i can come up with =p
UMEE Gunship Diplomacy Double Dutch Rudders	Posted - 2009.08.10 17:14:00 - [7] train up sentries to lvl 4 (5 ideally) and use those instead.
Celia Therone	Posted - 2009.08.10 18:04:00 - [8] Originally by: Guillieme Lohran Are T1 drones going to even scratch Sleepers? You might want something to draw aggro. In class 1 wormholes the sleepers have almost no repair so as long as you can keep your drones alive you can chew through the sleepers, even if you're using t1 light scouts. The sleepers generally don't have web so it's not that dangerous to use t2 light scouts and recall them when they get targeted. In class 3 the sleepers have web, occasional warp scrambling and remote repair. 5 ogre I's with good skills can beat the remote repair... sometimes (but T2 lights/mediums can't unless you find other ways to beat the remote rep). You'll lose a fair number to them being targeted by 6 webs and popped before they get anywhere near your drone bay as you frantically recall them. Btw, heavies don't seem to have problems tracking sleeper frigates.
Descrambled	Posted - 2009.08.10 22:08:00 - [9] why are drone boats not using sentries? Seems to me it would be a simple matter to just recall drones when they get aggro and then redeploy.
Amitious Turkey Gallente TarNec New Eden Retail Federation	Posted - 2009.08.10 22:12:00 - [10] Originally by: Descrambled why are drone boats not using sentries? Seems to me it would be a simple matter to just recall drones when they get aggro and then redeploy. This? Especially with an Ishtar. My sig was fail, but now it isn't. Originally by: CCP Navigator We love you all as well <3 GO NAVIGATOR <3
Kzintee Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.11 02:05:00 - [11] Originally by: Amitious Turkey Originally by: Descrambled why are drone boats not using sentries? Seems to me it would be a simple matter to just recall drones when they get aggro and then redeploy. This? Especially with an Ishtar. Are you willing to constantly recall your drones?
UMEE Gunship Diplomacy Double Dutch Rudders	Posted - 2009.08.11 02:58:00 - [12] you rotate your sentries as they take aggro, never scooping more than one at a time. this is easy because youre orbiting them at 500m. or, you can just fit a remote rep and not scoop them as often. another option is to fit an mwd and stay very close to your heavy drones, so that scooping is easy.
Xerra Yeltrox	Posted - 2009.08.11 06:44:00 - [13] Originally by: UMEE train up sentries to lvl 4 (5 ideally) and use those instead. This. And... 1. Medium and heavy combat drones are too slow and will be shot by the sleepers long before you can RR them. Dont use them. Use RR to repair drones inbetween fights. 2. Use light drones for frigs orbitting below 10 km, use sentries for everything else. 3. You have quite an armor EM hole. Consider changing that EANM for an active EM hardener t2. 4. Using sentries you want an omnidirectional tracking device (so get rid of the codebreaker) and use 1 sentry damage rig. 5. Do anomalies, else your tank wont hold. 6. Train for T2 drones asap!
hobo deluxe	Posted - 2009.08.11 09:48:00 - [14] Originally by: Xerra Yeltrox Originally by: UMEE train up sentries to lvl 4 (5 ideally) and use those instead. This. And... 1. Medium and heavy combat drones are too slow and will be shot by the sleepers long before you can RR them. Dont use them. Use RR to repair drones inbetween fights. 2. Use light drones for frigs orbitting below 10 km, use sentries for everything else. 3. You have quite an armor EM hole. Consider changing that EANM for an active EM hardener t2. 4. Using sentries you want an omnidirectional tracking device (so get rid of the codebreaker) and use 1 sentry damage rig. 5. Do anomalies, else your tank wont hold. 6. Train for T2 drones asap! sorry but i want to keep the codebreaker , ill look into sentries and dont worry i CAN use t2 drones i'm gona use t1 first. ill give sentries a shot , seems like a very good aproach
Darius Brinn Gallente Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness	Posted - 2009.08.11 09:54:00 - [15] Originally by: Kzintee Originally by: Amitious Turkey Originally by: Descrambled why are drone boats not using sentries? Seems to me it would be a simple matter to just recall drones when they get aggro and then redeploy. This? Especially with an Ishtar. Are you willing to constantly recall your drones? Yes. Recall & redeply drones > pay for new drones. As simple as that. Sentries hit at least as hard as Heavies, and you simply do not lose them. You watch the green crosses in front of your eyes, and as soon as a Sleeper beam lands on them, you recall them. I solo the easiest C3 sites (Fortification frotier stronghold, Oruze construct, etc) and the only drones I ever lose are T2 lights, to Sleeper frigates. http://www.geocities.com/vagrantweapons/db.jpg
hobo deluxe	Posted - 2009.08.11 10:21:00 - [16] Originally by: Darius Brinn Yes. Recall & redeply drones > pay for new drones. As simple as that. Sentries hit at least as hard as Heavies, and you simply do not lose them. You watch the green crosses in front of your eyes, and as soon as a Sleeper beam lands on them, you recall them. I solo the easiest C3 sites (Fortification frotier stronghold, Oruze construct, etc) and the only drones I ever lose are T2 lights, to Sleeper frigates. Darius , i have yet to find the answer but is it possible to solo radar sites in c1/c2 in an ishtar or not?
z0de Gallente The Bastards The Bastards.	Posted - 2009.08.11 13:24:00 - [17] Originally by: hobo deluxe ill look into sentries and dont worry i CAN use t2 drones i'm gona use t1 first. If you can afford an ishtar you can afford t2 drones. Done be a cheapskate where it matters. á á
Unity Love Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.08.11 13:48:00 - [18] Originally by: hobo deluxe i CAN use t2 drones i'm gona use t1 first. How very odd.
Celia Therone	Posted - 2009.08.11 21:42:00 - [19] Originally by: hobo deluxe Originally by: Darius Brinn As simple as that. Sentries hit at least as hard as Heavies, and you simply do not lose them. You watch the green crosses in front of your eyes, and as soon as a Sleeper beam lands on them, you recall them. Darius , i have yet to find the answer but is it possible to solo radar sites in c1/c2 in an ishtar or not? I've soloed c1 radar sites in a Vexor before, a well fit Ishtar should have no problems. Sentries only hit at least as hard as heavies if you're using t2 sentries with a sentry damage rig.
Descrambled	Posted - 2009.08.11 22:59:00 - [20] Originally by: Celia Therone Originally by: hobo deluxe Originally by: Darius Brinn As simple as that. Sentries hit at least as hard as Heavies, and you simply do not lose them. You watch the green crosses in front of your eyes, and as soon as a Sleeper beam lands on them, you recall them. Darius , i have yet to find the answer but is it possible to solo radar sites in c1/c2 in an ishtar or not? I've soloed c1 radar sites in a Vexor before, a well fit Ishtar should have no problems. Sentries only hit at least as hard as heavies if you're using t2 sentries with a sentry damage rig. This is incorrect
Celia Therone	Posted - 2009.08.12 01:22:00 - [21] Edited by: Celia Therone on 12/08/2009 01:22:24 Originally by: Descrambled Originally by: Celia Therone Sentries only hit at least as hard as heavies if you're using t2 sentries with a sentry damage rig. This is incorrect EFT with skills at V: 5 Ogre II = 475.2 dps 5 Garde II= 450 dps 5 Garde II + 1 sentry damage rig=495 dps 5 Garde II + 2 sentry damage rig=538 dps I tend to use bouncers over gardes: 5 Bouncer II = 393.8 5 Bouncer II + 1 sentry damage rig = 433.1 5 Bouncer II + 2 sentry damage rig = 470.8
Descrambled	Posted - 2009.08.12 02:13:00 - [22] I suppose it depends. I consider sentries more efficient because they do not need to burn to the target. I would much prefer an ingame DPS calculator over EFT which would properly account for the situation. anyway I personally always use 2 drone dmg rigs on my ishtar along with 2 omni tracking links.
Descrambled	Posted - 2009.08.12 02:25:00 - [23] Originally by: z0de Originally by: hobo deluxe ill look into sentries and dont worry i CAN use t2 drones i'm gona use t1 first. If you can afford an ishtar you can afford t2 drones. Done be a cheapskate where it matters. This. I would worry more about getting ganked in a WH or losing the ishtar to sleepers in your first encounter. In 0.0 ishtars are spiking upwards of 140 mil now for instance. The price of t2 drones pale in comparison. Who cares bout losing those really
hobo deluxe	Posted - 2009.08.12 07:49:00 - [24] Edited by: hobo deluxe on 12/08/2009 07:49:44 Originally by: Descrambled Originally by: z0de Originally by: hobo deluxe ill look into sentries and dont worry i CAN use t2 drones i'm gona use t1 first. If you can afford an ishtar you can afford t2 drones. Done be a cheapskate where it matters. This. I would worry more about getting ganked in a WH or losing the ishtar to sleepers in your first encounter. In 0.0 ishtars are spiking upwards of 140 mil now for instance. The price of t2 drones pale in comparison. Who cares bout losing those really Lol its not about losing the ship and drones , i havent done wormholes yet solo in a drone ship so I wasnt confident about being able to prevent my ogre II's etc to be popped by the sleepers. After some experience sure , ill switch over to t2 xD
Celia Therone	Posted - 2009.08.12 21:30:00 - [25] Originally by: Descrambled I suppose it depends. I consider sentries more efficient because they do not need to burn to the target. I would much prefer an ingame DPS calculator over EFT which would properly account for the situation. anyway I personally always use 2 drone dmg rigs on my ishtar along with 2 omni tracking links. I usually use an armor tanked dominix with an afterburner and analyzer/codebreaker in c3's. As such I have no spare slots for omnidirectionals (due to desparate need for cap) and I rig for cap and tank not sentry damage. With this configuration Gardes tend to do lousy damage, significantly less than their paper dps. I agree with you that it'd be awesome if the damage log displayed drone damage.
Jastra Gallente Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.13 11:53:00 - [26] Originally by: Celia Therone Originally by: hobo deluxe Originally by: Darius Brinn As simple as that. Sentries hit at least as hard as Heavies, and you simply do not lose them. You watch the green crosses in front of your eyes, and as soon as a Sleeper beam lands on them, you recall them. Darius , i have yet to find the answer but is it possible to solo radar sites in c1/c2 in an ishtar or not? I've soloed c1 radar sites in a Vexor before, a well fit Ishtar should have no problems. Sentries only hit at least as hard as heavies if you're using t2 sentries with a sentry damage rig. I havent even done the math and know instinctively this is incorrect. My Wardens hit as hard as ogres when in good range, the difference would be negligable - go and try it and see, I'll time it for time taken to kill a BS next time i'm in a mission, there will be nothing in it. _ _ _
Celia Therone	Posted - 2009.08.13 20:41:00 - [27] Originally by: Jastra Originally by: Celia Therone Sentries only hit at least as hard as heavies if you're using t2 sentries with a sentry damage rig. I havent even done the math and know instinctively this is incorrect. My Wardens hit as hard as ogres when in good range, the difference would be negligable - go and try it and see, I'll time it for time taken to kill a BS next time i'm in a mission, there will be nothing in it. EFT, all skills at V: 5 Warden II 337.5 dps 5 Warden II + 1 sentry damage augmenter I rig 371.3 dps 5 Warden II + 2 sentry damage augmenter I rig 403.5 dps 5 Ogre II 475.2 dps Ogres do take a lot longer to apply their damage as they have to fly to the enemy ship and are the slowest drones.

Pages: [1] :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.