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Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2012.05.28 17:18:00 -
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You haven't actually used that shield booster, have you?
Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
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Jackson Steely
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.28 17:40:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:You haven't actually used that shield booster, have you?
I haven't., Does it suck? |
Seishi Maru
doMAL S.A.
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Posted - 2012.05.28 17:46:00 -
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Its a PVP module. You cannto expect to reload it during a combat and survive. So its great on fights that take less than 40 seconds. |
Jackson Steely
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.28 18:00:00 -
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The 60 second reload doesn't appear to seem that like much of a drawback. I very often go longer than that between pulses. However...yea I haven't used one yet. |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.28 18:00:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:You haven't actually used that shield booster, have you?
Don't make fun of the EFT warriors. Their mommies will get mad at you. |
Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2012.05.28 18:05:00 -
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Jackson Steely wrote:Liam Mirren wrote:You haven't actually used that shield booster, have you? I haven't., Does it suck?
its 60 second reload time is too annoying in pve, also it's not as cost effective as running a normal booster with a cap booster as eating 400s every few seconds gets expensive
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Jackson Steely
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.28 18:19:00 -
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I can see how chewing through 400's every pulse can add up over time. And now that you mention it I see you can use either 400's or 800's. Obviously 400's would be better to use and the fact that it can use 800's is more or less just for availability purposes. Thanks for the heads up. |
Suqq Madiq
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.28 19:20:00 -
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Duchess Starbuckington wrote:Quote:By pointless, do you mean that they provide resist bonuses to your shields, armor and hull and give you a bigger window of opportunity to bounce if **** hits the fan? Then yes, very much pointless. Roll No, by pointless I mean it adds very little that actually matters for missions, idiot. Damage mods help you kill rats faster Hardeners contribute better to active tanks than a DC Damage controls... buy you a bit of time if you're a clueless newbie of have internet so bad it calls into question why you're playing an MMO, while taking up a slot that could be used for better tank or DPS.
Calm down, little girl. I'm sensing that you are very angry about the use of Damage Control mods on mission running ships, but I can't, for the life of me, understand why you would choose to direct so much rage toward people choosing to use them.They are extremely useful, in a variety of situations and provide an extra layer of defense and insurance against **** hitting the fan. And, indeed, outside of whatever super-elite PVE circles you run in, **** does, on occasion, hit the fan. Every single missioner who has had to warp out of a mission, for whatever reason, with their hull on fire will attest to their usefulness. In future, I suggest you consider the possibility that not everybody is as amazingly awesome, efficient and knowledgeable as you in the fine art of running missions and acknowledge the fact that, on occasion, your blinding rage can get the better of you, causing you to shitpost all over the forums and, in the process, making yourself look like a huge, whiny douche. The end. |
Mal Ishos
Red Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.28 19:26:00 -
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Suqq Madiq wrote:Calm down, little girl. I'm sensing that you are very angry about the use of Damage Control mods on mission running ships, but I can't, for the life of me, understand why you would choose to direct so much rage toward people choosing to use them.They are extremely useful, in a variety of situations and provide an extra layer of defense and insurance against **** hitting the fan. And, indeed, outside of whatever super-elite PVE circles you run in, **** does, on occasion, hit the fan. Every single missioner who has had to warp out of a mission, for whatever reason, with their hull on fire will attest to their usefulness. In future, I suggest you consider the possibility that not everybody is as amazingly awesome, efficient and knowledgeable as you in the fine art of running missions and acknowledge the fact that, on occasion, your blinding rage can get the better of you, causing you to shitpost all over the forums and, in the process, making yourself look like a huge, whiny douche. The end.
Haha, how scathing.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2012.05.28 19:42:00 -
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Duchess Starbuckington wrote:Quote:You don't need to dual rep this ship. Yes you do, unless you want a whopping 300 DPS tank against explosive. (That or give up rig/low slots, ruining your already rather sad DPS)
over tanked.... one of the smallest sig battleships and it has an afterburner. yea AE does come up pretty often in amarr space, but if you actually use the afterburner they won't ever hit you. my paladin has about a 300 dps omnitank, and I usually just sit still with it.
also very few blood ships actually neut in missions, and the ones that do are generally pretty easy to take care of.
and lulz damage control. maybe if I mess up the triggers, get scrammed, and then disconnect. (okay I do use one on my paladin, but I also omnitank it and I cba to buy a third IN EANM, and due to stacking its better than a t2 enam.)
even if you do fit a cap booster to a mael you have plenty of slots left over, free sba from ship bonus!
you could do missions in a phoon, but I'd rather use something else :/ |
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Dead On Arrival Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.29 02:56:00 -
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Speaking as a regular phoon pilot, I would avoid using this in PVE. Save for a Mael, while Lilu's points are all pertinent regarding the possible drawbacks of a Mael vs Sansha rats, overall it will perform better than the Phoon.
Save your phoon for PVP. By which I mean, wormholes and maybe lowsec. Like the Domi, you hardly see them in nullsec, everyone is now flying drake/cane or tier 3 sniper blawbs. A torp-neut phoon is pretty much useless for most current nullsec doctrines.
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Roosterton
Syndicalis Immortalis
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Posted - 2012.05.29 05:59:00 -
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Duchess Starbuckington wrote:Seishi Maru wrote:Not true. Try doidng incursions and SPECIALLY wormholes adn you will see how DC is VERY VERY important on a lot of ships. By "PVE" in this case I meant "missions", which is what the OP is going to be doing. And for missions, damage controls are pointless. Quote:The OP did say that he was going to be running in Amarr space, which means few explosive foes and a lot of EM/therm. AFAIK you get quite a few angel/Minmatar missions down there. ... Why would you dedicate so many slots to the guns on a ship that is so heavily optimized for missiles? Quote:Go for an Apoc or an Abaddon instead if you have the skills for it. Or a Maelstrom, which is a better ship for a third of the training time.
Minmatar missions only if you're the kind of person who does anti-navy missions. Angel isn't nearly as common as it would be in minnie space, which was the original assumption.
As for the slots dedicated to guns; you would otherwise have three empty high slots, and three heavily stacking penalized BCUs in the lows. You'd also be blowing about 20mil more on rigs, although if cost isn't a factor (which I assume it is if you're in a typhoon) then you could theoretically put more tank rigs there. |
Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.29 07:30:00 -
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Thanks for the replies people, both the informative ones and the lulzdrama ones. 
Gallente is what America believes itself to be.
Caldari is how America is in reality. |
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.29 08:51:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:You haven't actually used that shield booster, have you?
Tanking is for wimps.
But seriously a 'phoon with with guns, missiles and heavy drones and a skilled pilot can deal so much damage and move fast enough that sustained tanking is not really an issue in most missions. |
Meditril
T.R.I.A.D
Defiant Legacy
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Posted - 2012.05.29 13:15:00 -
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Typhoon is the "Swiss Army Knife", it is not perfect, it is skill intensive, but it is damn flexible and very handy if you want to solo in it and have to take care of everything yourself. E.g. for PVE in Wormholes you can easily fit a scan probe launcher, salvager and tractor beam while still doing reasonable dps and being able to solo tank a C2. For PVP you can use the high slots for neutralizing enemies cap while fielding a large HP buffer. |
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