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Baron Primus	Posted - 2009.08.11 00:29:00 - [1] Okay. So I've looked at a few different setups and a Curse's seems kinda cookie cutter. The only thing Im unsatisfied with is my midsection. Everything else seems to work. I have a tracking disruptor, warp jammer, 10mn AB2, one large extender 2, 1 invuln hardener... and Im not sure if I should have a cap injector or a second large extender. My sig sucks.
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.08.11 00:32:00 - [2] Cap injector and that ab should be an mwd. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Bazuka	Posted - 2009.08.11 00:35:00 - [3] Injector and MWD, AB is for Pilgrim ___________ CareMyBear!
Baron Primus	Posted - 2009.08.11 00:39:00 - [4] MWD, really? even though the nos/neuts are like 20-somethin km? Its a close flier? Im pretty new to this ship :x Pardon the ignorance.. My sig sucks.
4THELULZ	Posted - 2009.08.11 00:48:00 - [5] Originally by: Baron Primus MWD, really? even though the nos/neuts are like 20-somethin km? Its a close flier? Im pretty new to this ship :x Pardon the ignorance.. It's not about getting close to the enemy, it's about stopping THEM getting close to YOU.
Baron Primus	Posted - 2009.08.11 00:50:00 - [6] Originally by: 4THELULZ Originally by: Baron Primus MWD, really? even though the nos/neuts are like 20-somethin km? Its a close flier? Im pretty new to this ship :x Pardon the ignorance.. It's not about getting close to the enemy, it's about stopping THEM getting close to YOU. When you put it that way.. heh Thanks for all the input! My sig sucks.
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.08.11 00:50:00 - [7] Originally by: 4THELULZ Originally by: Baron Primus MWD, really? even though the nos/neuts are like 20-somethin km? Its a close flier? Im pretty new to this ship :x Pardon the ignorance.. It's not about getting close to the enemy, it's about stopping THEM getting close to YOU. This. And btw they're actually more like 40km. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Baron Primus	Posted - 2009.08.11 01:03:00 - [8] Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Originally by: 4THELULZ Originally by: Baron Primus MWD, really? even though the nos/neuts are like 20-somethin km? Its a close flier? Im pretty new to this ship :x Pardon the ignorance.. It's not about getting close to the enemy, it's about stopping THEM getting close to YOU. This. And btw they're actually more like 40km. Im only level 4 going into 5 at the moment.. My sig sucks.
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.08.11 01:18:00 - [9] Originally by: Baron Primus Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Originally by: 4THELULZ Originally by: Baron Primus MWD, really? even though the nos/neuts are like 20-somethin km? Its a close flier? Im pretty new to this ship :x Pardon the ignorance.. It's not about getting close to the enemy, it's about stopping THEM getting close to YOU. This. And btw they're actually more like 40km. Im only level 4 going into 5 at the moment.. Even at 4 you still have like 35km range. You're using medium not small right? Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Spectre3353 Gallente The Python Cartel.	Posted - 2009.08.11 06:16:00 - [10] Here is what I fly: Quote: [Curse, Nano] Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II 50W Infectious Power System Malfunction 50W Infectious Power System Malfunction 50W Infectious Power System Malfunction Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hammerhead II x7 Warrior II x6 Valkyrie II x5 If you really want a tracking disruptor then you can drop some tank and fit one on. I prefer more shields tank mods personally though. ----- The Python Cartel - My Pirate Blog
Pippan Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2009.08.11 07:57:00 - [11] Edited by: Pippan on 11/08/2009 07:59:13 This is what i use for solo work. Edit for the fit [Curse, Pippan solo] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Ballistic Control System II Reactor Control Unit II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II True Sansha Warp Disruptor Tracking Disruptor II, Optimal Range Disruption Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 400 Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 50W Infectious Power System Malfunction 50W Infectious Power System Malfunction 50W Infectious Power System Malfunction Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Egress Port Maximizer I Egress Port Maximizer I Hammerhead II x5 Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 ------ Every time you kill a Falcon a kitten is saved. Please, save the kittens.
Macky Alcaz	Posted - 2009.08.11 08:15:00 - [12] Edited by: Macky Alcaz on 11/08/2009 08:16:41 [Curse, Solo] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Invulnerability Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Core Defence Field Purger I Edit: This is the best fit ive used so far, confirmed that it permatanks 5xHammerheads
Bazuka	Posted - 2009.08.11 08:36:00 - [13] I`m still waiting for someone to post a launcher fited Curse and tell us how he killz stuffz with it...acording to EFT. ___________ CareMyBear!
Sera Ryskin	Posted - 2009.08.11 08:41:00 - [14] Originally by: Bazuka I`m still waiting for someone to post a launcher fited Curse and tell us how he killz stuffz with it...acording to EFT. Why talk about EFT when you can talk about actual experience? There are quite a few situations, especially solo, where the extra dps from launchers is more important than more neuts. But anyway, this is the proper Curse setup. If you're not nano fitting it, you're doing it wrong: [Curse, Win] Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hammerhead II x5 Adjust the ratio of neuts to missiles as you prefer. ========== Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
Macky Alcaz	Posted - 2009.08.11 08:45:00 - [15] Originally by: Sera Ryskin Originally by: Bazuka I`m still waiting for someone to post a launcher fited Curse and tell us how he killz stuffz with it...acording to EFT. Why talk about EFT when you can talk about actual experience? There are quite a few situations, especially solo, where the extra dps from launchers is more important than more neuts. But anyway, this is the proper Curse setup. If you're not nano fitting it, you're doing it wrong: [Curse, Win] Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hammerhead II x5 Adjust the ratio of neuts to missiles as you prefer. FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL omg omg LOL .. first of all that curse only looks capable of dryneuting frigates and youl prolly run out of cap boosters before your enemy does, secondly the missile launchers are optional and are not ment as a **ing dps boost LOL they are for using precision missiles to take out heavy drones, but since my setup above takes care of the drone dps it doenst really matter. ohgod please dont fit it that way and if you do please just give it to me instead of losing it to some ratting drake. always fit atleast two neuts and use the bonus for **ing NOS. Also that tracking disruptor is pretty worthless, ive tried with and without and some extra tank is better than a tracking disruptor.
Bibbleibble	Posted - 2009.08.11 08:52:00 - [16] Originally by: Macky Alcaz Originally by: Sera Ryskin Originally by: Bazuka I`m still waiting for someone to post a launcher fited Curse and tell us how he killz stuffz with it...acording to EFT. Why talk about EFT when you can talk about actual experience? There are quite a few situations, especially solo, where the extra dps from launchers is more important than more neuts. But anyway, this is the proper Curse setup. If you're not nano fitting it, you're doing it wrong: [Curse, Win] Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hammerhead II x5 Adjust the ratio of neuts to missiles as you prefer. FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL omg omg LOL .. first of all that curse only looks capable of dryneuting frigates and youl prolly run out of cap boosters before your enemy does, secondly the missile launchers are optional and are not ment as a **ing dps boost LOL they are for using precision missiles to take out heavy drones, but since my setup above takes care of the drone dps it doenst really matter. ohgod please dont fit it that way and if you do please just give it to me instead of losing it to some ratting drake. always fit atleast two neuts and use the bonus for **ing NOS. Also that tracking disruptor is pretty worthless, ive tried with and without and some extra tank is better than a tracking disruptor. Do you have any idea what you have just unleashed on us all? /goes and hides behind the sofa ________________________________________________ For changes to Minmatar Battleships click here (Now with added summary!)
Macky Alcaz	Posted - 2009.08.11 08:54:00 - [17] Originally by: Bibbleibble Originally by: Macky Alcaz Originally by: Sera Ryskin Originally by: Bazuka I`m still waiting for someone to post a launcher fited Curse and tell us how he killz stuffz with it...acording to EFT. Why talk about EFT when you can talk about actual experience? There are quite a few situations, especially solo, where the extra dps from launchers is more important than more neuts. But anyway, this is the proper Curse setup. If you're not nano fitting it, you're doing it wrong: [Curse, Win] Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hammerhead II x5 Adjust the ratio of neuts to missiles as you prefer. FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL omg omg LOL .. first of all that curse only looks capable of dryneuting frigates and youl prolly run out of cap boosters before your enemy does, secondly the missile launchers are optional and are not ment as a **ing dps boost LOL they are for using precision missiles to take out heavy drones, but since my setup above takes care of the drone dps it doenst really matter. ohgod please dont fit it that way and if you do please just give it to me instead of losing it to some ratting drake. always fit atleast two neuts and use the bonus for **ing NOS. Also that tracking disruptor is pretty worthless, ive tried with and without and some extra tank is better than a tracking disruptor. Do you have any idea what you have just unleashed on us all? /goes and hides behind the sofa
Sera Ryskin	Posted - 2009.08.11 09:06:00 - [18] Edited by: Sera Ryskin on 11/08/2009 09:08:48 Originally by: Macky Alcaz first of all that curse only looks capable of dryneuting frigates Think again. Once you consider the fact that many ships are run with very little excess cap regeneration, the cap drain of a single Recon V (I <3 that skill) is extremely effective. Most ships will quickly find themselves unable to run their MWD, and that's the single most important item to remove. Quote: and youl prolly run out of cap boosters before your enemy does Wrong again. I have yet to ever run out of cap boosters in a single fight. Quote: , secondly the missile launchers are optional and are not ment as a **ing dps boost LOL they are for using precision missiles to take out heavy drones, but since my setup above takes care of the drone dps it doenst really matter. Yes they are meant for extra dps. Please read before posting. And why would you bother trying to kill heavy drones when a properly fit Curse can just out-run them and ignore them? Quote: ohgod please dont fit it that way and if you do please just give it to me instead of losing it to some ratting drake. I have yet to run into a Drake which was able to do more than force me to let it go (good luck catching a nano Curse in a BC). Quote: always fit atleast two neuts and use the bonus for ing NOS. I love people like you that make silly absolute rules like that, it makes my job of killing you so much easier. Maybe if you think for a moment you could come up with some of those situations I was referring to, where a single neut is sufficient and more dps is desirable? Quote: Also that tracking disruptor is pretty worthless, ive tried with and without and some extra tank is better than a tracking disruptor. You are 100% wrong. A tracking disruptor will make you invulnerable** against virtually every gunboat in the game. With an optimal script, you take all medium guns well below your orbit range, and with a tracking script, you wreck the tracking of anything that could possibly have the optimal to hit you. Oh, and the fit you posted? It's terrible. No tracking disruptor (the key to keeping you alive), no nanofibers, and no cap booster = comedy lossmail. And the fact that you actually put a purger rig on that ship is just hilariously stupid... ========== Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.08.11 09:22:00 - [19] ITT someone learns that flaming merin means you get flamed back. twice as hard. with a flaming whip. and worse of all, with reasonable facts. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Mezuza Minmatar	Posted - 2009.08.11 09:30:00 - [20] Originally by: Sera Ryskin lots of crap Pretty much everything you said is wrong. It's all crap and more crap. The curse's DPS comes from its drones. not Heavy missile launchers LOLOLOL. and 1 Neut on a curse? Are you serious? It's 5 highs should be filled with neuts and maybe 1 or 2 noses. Jesus man, stick to carebearing. That fit was hilarious. You probably used it in a 1v1 HAC tourney your corp had and thought it was good.
Bazuka	Posted - 2009.08.11 09:39:00 - [21] Hmmm I think I`ve been in this Curse thread before. It was the one before this one. And the one before that one. ___________ CareMyBear!
Bazuka	Posted - 2009.08.11 09:45:00 - [22] FIRE ZE MISSILEZZ!!! ___________ CareMyBear!
Bibbleibble	Posted - 2009.08.11 09:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Grimpak ITT someone learns that flaming merin means you get flamed back. twice as hard. with a flaming whip. and worse of all, with reasonable facts. In ships and modules, Merin flame you! ________________________________________________ For changes to Minmatar Battleships click here (Now with added summary!)
Sera Ryskin	Posted - 2009.08.11 09:52:00 - [24] Edited by: Sera Ryskin on 11/08/2009 09:53:44 Originally by: Mezuza The curse's DPS comes from its drones. not Heavy missile launchers LOLOLOL. Curse drone dps: 238 (HH IIs) Curse missile dps: 128 So by fitting those launchers, you get a 53% damage boost. Since you people are obviously too clueless to figure out why this is a good thing without my help, 50% more dps is important in the following three situations: 1) Passive (regen) shield tanked ships (a common encounter as a solo pirate). The extra dps, especially with the ability to hit the lowest resist, is a huge help in breaking through their peak regen in a reasonable amount of time. 2) Ships that can be neuted effectively with one neut. There are quite a few of them, and since one neut does the job, might as well take the extra dps to kill them before anyone else shows up. 3) Buffer tanked ships. Kill the MWD with one neut, TD their guns, then 50% more dps = 50% faster kill = less time for someone else to show up and ruin your day. Consider the example of a typical PvP Armageddon. Your TD will negate its guns, and since you're properly (nano) fitted, you can out-run the drones. Therefore the only thing left to do is sit there and wait for it to die. Now, considering that the Armageddon is buffer tanked and will not die faster if you bring more neuts, wouldn't you rather have 50% more dps to finish the kill before the Armageddon's friends arrive to save him? Now, obviously there are situations where you want more neuts instead of the extra dps, but that's why I said "*adjust the ratio of neuts to missiles as you prefer", not "fit 4x HMLs or your setup is a comedy killmail". Quote:* and 1 Neut on a curse? Are you serious? It's 5 highs should be filled with neuts and maybe 1 or 2 noses. And in some situations the 5x neut fit is appropriate, as I already said, if you bothered to read. However, someone questioned the value of missiles on a Curse, so I corrected them and pointed out that there are perfectly valid reasons to use them. Quote: Jesus man, stick to carebearing. That fit was hilarious. You probably used it in a 1v1 HAC tourney your corp had and thought it was good. No, I used it in real PvP, and it is extremely effective. ========== Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
Cmndr Griff Capitalistic Tendencies Red Dwarf Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.11 10:07:00 - [25] I have to agree with the for Missiles argument. Very often a bit more dps can mean the difference between a kill or having to run. I roll with two neutralisers personally, either two medium or one medium and a small.
Lexa Hellfury Incura	Posted - 2009.08.11 10:09:00 - [26] Edited by: Lexa Hellfury on 11/08/2009 10:09:03 Sera or no Sera, there is no excuse for only fitting one neut on a Curse. Originally by: RedSplat The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.
Sera Ryskin	Posted - 2009.08.11 10:11:00 - [27] Originally by: Lexa Hellfury Edited by: Lexa Hellfury on 11/08/2009 10:09:03 Sera or no Sera, there is no excuse for only fitting one neut on a Curse. Please read the previous post. Not only are there excuses for fitting only one neut on a Curse, but I already explained them for you. ========== Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
Bibbleibble	Posted - 2009.08.11 10:21:00 - [28] Originally by: Sera Ryskin Originally by: Lexa Hellfury Edited by: Lexa Hellfury on 11/08/2009 10:09:03 Sera or no Sera, there is no excuse for only fitting one neut on a Curse. Please read the previous post. Not only are there excuses for fitting only one neut on a Curse, but I already explained them for you. What do you drop to make room for the extra neuts? I'm only asking because it looks to be a bit of a tight fit, and neuts are more grid and CPU intensive than HML. ________________________________________________ For changes to Minmatar Battleships click here (Now with added summary!)
Wideen Warped Mining Strip Mining Club	Posted - 2009.08.11 10:53:00 - [29] Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Cap injector and that ab should be an mwd. quoted for absolute truth. Last curse that engaged my geddon used a cap stable draining fit. It took one cycle of my heavy neut to shut him down and that was that. oh and moar tracking disruptors pls
Cmndr Griff Capitalistic Tendencies Red Dwarf Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.11 10:59:00 - [30] Originally by: Bibbleibble What do you drop to make room for the extra neuts? I'm only asking because it looks to be a bit of a tight fit, and neuts are more grid and CPU intensive than HML. You can fit a small neutraliser instead of one HML. If you want to get on two mediums then you need to swap a Nanofiber for a Power Diagnostic Unit. Less agile and about 60m/s slower but seems the best compromise. That or you forgo the T2 launchers and fit on Arbalests which I personally wouldn't do.

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