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Krystal Vernet Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.08.13 16:29:00 - [31] Edited by: Krystal Vernet on 13/08/2009 16:30:50 Originally by: Munchees The Inheritance Cycle (Eragon, Eldest, Brisingr, the final book still being written). Eragon is an okay book, but the third book is the best so far. Since the writer is just a young guy, his writing has evolved in the same way JK Rowling's did. One of the things I enjoy about some book series (sometimes more than the plot itself) is seeing the writing style develop over time. The first books are simple, but the latter books will take the potential and run away with it if the author is successful. So, they tend to be better reads, so it's kind of a gradual build-up and unveiling on different fronts: the story, the world, and the author. edit: I'd go with this recommendation as well as the Wheel of Time series. Lord of the Rings is always a good classic, if she hasn't read it yet. I like the DragonLance novels too.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.08.13 19:20:00 - [32] Originally by: Jin Nib Edited by: Jin Nib on 12/08/2009 08:40:35 Originally by: Malcanis Also if you like the steampunk aesthetic, try Ian Macdonald's The Light Ages. Ooo, in that vein there's also China MiTville. His novels that I've read are very good. Confirming this.
Glamaz Cruciatia	Posted - 2009.08.14 09:45:00 - [33] Disc World For several reasons, one obviously being great books, but two, there are so many you will be sure of having an easy time picking next birthday / xmas preseants :P Personally I have not read light fantastic or colour of magic yet, I started half way through, with Going Postal, Making Money, and Thud! While some of the ealrier ones may be best, read up and see what the story is about (roughly) as there is such a huge range, I mean Hogfather you get Death as an acting 'father christmas) and Thud, you could draw so many parralels to real life racism and work discrimination, but be able to laugh at it without worry because its done in fantasy style
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2009.08.14 14:01:00 - [34] Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 14/08/2009 14:01:37 Originally by: Munchees Edited by: Munchees on 11/08/2009 20:24:40 Edited by: Munchees on 11/08/2009 20:18:24 As someone said before, Discworld. However, there is about 38 books in that series, however only a few of them truly tie into each other (the first 2 books). In fact I recommend The Colour of Magic, and The Light Fantastic (the first 2 books ). Any book with Death as the main character is always good, too. This, Unseen Academicals is coming soon! If I had to reccomend something to start, the Watch series and the Death series of the Discworld series are easily the best imo.
Croesus Caldari Titan Indurstrial	Posted - 2009.08.14 14:17:00 - [35] Originally by: Rulkez If you think LOTR is the height of the the genre, and that most fantasy is derived from the LOTR formula, then you simply are not well enough read to be commenting on the genre. LOTR is the hight of the genre. currently im reading that Malazan, book of the fallen books, first two were pretty **** poor but they are getting better.
WheatGrass Gallente Silent but Friendly	Posted - 2009.08.14 18:18:00 - [36] Your post was on my birthday. -No books for me though. -Just a visit to the walk-in clinic for a nasty critter bite and a bag full of antibiotics. Fantasy isn't my area of expertise. Yet, I did enjoy the first three Eragon books by Christopher Paolini. I did not see the movie which might be a good thing. Yet, I did play the video game demo. He's decided that the original plan for three books is inadequate. Now, there is to be a fourth book to wrap up the story. The first three... Eragon Eldest Brisinger The first two books I listened to by way of a PlayAway audio book when I worked for the County library district. They were quite entertaining.
Awesome Possum Insert Obscure Latin Name	Posted - 2009.08.14 19:21:00 - [37] Wheel of Time - Robert Jordan Only one not mentioned that should have been. King trilogy by Chris Bunch (Seer King, Demon King, Warrior King) ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Ammatar Free Corps Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.14 19:48:00 - [38] Katherine Kerr - Daggerspell (celtic/new age inspired fantasy. Individually a good book, part of a good "first block" of 4 books and of course part of the whole 14-ish Deverry series) Elizabeth Moon - Paksenarrion trilogy (Sheepherders daughter, Divided Allegiance and Oath of Gold. Good stuff) Gene Wolf - Shadow of the Torturer (science fiction masquerading as fantasy. Or maybe Sci fantasy. Whatever) Neil Gaiman - Neverwhere (IMHO even better than American Gods. It's also a completely stand-alone book, and in the fantasy genre that's RARE). Maybe Garth Nix - Abhorsen trilogy. It's technically for "young adults", but a good read anyway. ______________________________________________ -My respect can not be won, only lost. It's given freely and only grudgingly withdrawn.
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei	Posted - 2009.08.14 20:37:00 - [39] Originally by: Glamaz Cruciatia Disc World For several reasons, one obviously being great books, but two, there are so many you will be sure of having an easy time picking next birthday / xmas preseants :P Personally I have not read light fantastic or colour of magic yet, I started half way through, with Going Postal, Making Money, and Thud! While some of the ealrier ones may be best, read up and see what the story is about (roughly) as there is such a huge range, I mean Hogfather you get Death as an acting 'father christmas) and Thud, you could draw so many parralels to real life racism and work discrimination, but be able to laugh at it without worry because its done in fantasy style The Books about the City Watch are my personal Favorites. But I would recommend reading them in the right Order: Guards! Guards!, Men at Arms, Feet of Clay and so on. Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
Rulkez Gentlemen Bastards	Posted - 2009.08.14 20:51:00 - [40] Edited by: Rulkez on 14/08/2009 20:53:11 Originally by: Croesus Originally by: Rulkez If you think LOTR is the height of the the genre, and that most fantasy is derived from the LOTR formula, then you simply are not well enough read to be commenting on the genre. LOTR is the hight of the genre. currently im reading that Malazan, book of the fallen books, first two were pretty **** poor but they are getting better. If your genre is limited to farmboy goes on quest to save the world type novels then sure LOTR takes some beating, but again , if were are talking about fantasy as a whole , then If you think LOTR is as good as it gets you simply have not read enough . I can see why MBOTF would be a difficult read for you if you truly believe LOTR is the glass ceiling for the genre.
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei	Posted - 2009.08.14 21:01:00 - [41] Originally by: Rulkez If your genre is limited to farmboy goes on quest to save the world type novels then sure LOTR takes some beating, but again , if were are talking about fantasy as a whole , then If you think LOTR is as good as it gets you simply have not read enough . I can see why MBOTF would be a difficult read for you if you truly believe LOTR is the glass ceiling for the genre. Like it or not, but Lord of the Rings and to a lesser degree the Silmarillion defined the Fantasy Genre as we know it. Of course their is much older Fiction and LOTR and all other Books following, tie into these as well. Examples would be "Beowulf" or the "Nibelungensage". Love it or hate it, but if you enjoy Fantasy then LOTR should have be on list of Books that should be read at least once. Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
Jin Nib	Posted - 2009.08.14 21:21:00 - [42] Originally by: Deviana Sevidon Originally by: Rulkez If your genre is limited to farmboy goes on quest to save the world type novels then sure LOTR takes some beating, but again , if were are talking about fantasy as a whole , then If you think LOTR is as good as it gets you simply have not read enough . I can see why MBOTF would be a difficult read for you if you truly believe LOTR is the glass ceiling for the genre. Like it or not, but Lord of the Rings and to a lesser degree the Silmarillion defined the Fantasy Genre as we know it. Of course their is much older Fiction and LOTR and all other Books following, tie into these as well. Examples would be "Beowulf" or the "Nibelungensage". Love it or hate it, but if you enjoy Fantasy then LOTR should have be on list of Books that should be read at least once. Being central to a genre does not make it a good book. If you are intrested in the study of fantasy, then clearly its must read, but other then that it's hard to recommend it as somthing worthwhile to read. His strength is in creating compeling ideas (like Ents and the tree wives or Tom Bombadillo) and that rests in the absolutly stunning depth he created for his world. He fails to parlay that into a gripping story and his biggest failing is in not making compeling characters, they are so one dimensonal they might as well not exist at all. Seriously, I recently re-read the LOTR to make sure I wasn't misjudgeing it, and the whole time I just kept wishing Frodo and Sam would ***ing die already and that Sauron would win and make the Middle Earth a better place. By the end I was so thourhgly in the Orc's camp that I was actually dissapointed they failed, even though I knew the whole story. What a monumental waste fo time. Again if you want to read some good Tolken stick to the Hobbit. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00*
Awesome Possum Insert Obscure Latin Name	Posted - 2009.08.15 00:38:00 - [43] Originally by: Deviana Sevidon Originally by: Rulkez If your genre is limited to farmboy goes on quest to save the world type novels then sure LOTR takes some beating, but again , if were are talking about fantasy as a whole , then If you think LOTR is as good as it gets you simply have not read enough . I can see why MBOTF would be a difficult read for you if you truly believe LOTR is the glass ceiling for the genre. Like it or not, but Lord of the Rings and to a lesser degree the Silmarillion defined the Fantasy Genre as we know it. Of course their is much older Fiction and LOTR and all other Books following, tie into these as well. Examples would be "Beowulf" or the "Nibelungensage". Love it or hate it, but if you enjoy Fantasy then LOTR should have be on list of Books that should be read at least once. I've never read past the first couple chapters in LOTR. I found it to be dull beyond belief. If the movies are anything to go by, then I'm glad I didn't. I love Wheel of Time because its basically a LOTR clone that's actually interesting and fun to read. ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.15 00:41:00 - [44] Originally by: Awesome Possum I've never read past the first couple chapters in LOTR. I found it to be dull beyond belief. If the movies are anything to go by, then I'm glad I didn't. I love Wheel of Time because its basically a LOTR clone that's actually interesting and fun to read. This to be honest. Lord of the Rings read like a history book. Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! =v=
Louis deGuerre Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia	Posted - 2009.08.15 01:06:00 - [45] Originally by: Irida Mershkov If I had to reccomend something to start, the Watch series and the Death series of the Discworld series are easily the best imo. If I had to pick one, it would be "Small Gods", I must have read that more than 50 times and it's still great. But it's all good (I have them all ). --- Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
Awesome Possum Insert Obscure Latin Name	Posted - 2009.08.15 02:06:00 - [46] His last few books have focused on the Watch or AM life, so here's hoping a new Death or Witches book comes out. Death of Rats is my favourite character, I was highly butthurt he didn't get more airtime in the Hogfather movie. Granny Weatherwax is also great, I recommend any and all books she's been in. God what I wouldn't give a Granny/Vetinari showdown. (Though they would probably just agree with each other and take over the universe) ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2009.08.15 10:37:00 - [47] Originally by: Louis deGuerre Originally by: Irida Mershkov If I had to reccomend something to start, the Watch series and the Death series of the Discworld series are easily the best imo. If I had to pick one, it would be "Small Gods", I must have read that more than 50 times and it's still great. But it's all good (I have them all ). God damn you, i'd forgotten that little book.
nahtoh Caldari Vanguard Frontiers	Posted - 2009.08.15 12:26:00 - [48] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Louis deGuerre Originally by: Irida Mershkov If I had to reccomend something to start, the Watch series and the Death series of the Discworld series are easily the best imo. If I had to pick one, it would be "Small Gods", I must have read that more than 50 times and it's still great. But it's all good (I have them all ). God damn you, i'd forgotten that little book. The ones with the "wee free men" They paint them selves blue, they drunk and they headbutt things...What more can a scotsman want in a fantasy book ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Croesus Caldari Titan Indurstrial	Posted - 2009.08.15 12:31:00 - [49] Originally by: Rulkez Edited by: Rulkez on 14/08/2009 20:53:11 Originally by: Croesus Originally by: Rulkez If you think LOTR is the height of the the genre, and that most fantasy is derived from the LOTR formula, then you simply are not well enough read to be commenting on the genre. LOTR is the hight of the genre. currently im reading that Malazan, book of the fallen books, first two were pretty ** poor but they are getting better. If your genre is limited to farmboy goes on quest to save the world type novels then sure LOTR takes some beating, but again , if were are talking about fantasy as a whole , then If you think LOTR is as good as it gets you simply have not read enough . I can see why MBOTF would be a difficult read for you if you truly believe LOTR is the glass ceiling for the genre. no need to hate just because you got ** taste.
Croesus Caldari Titan Indurstrial	Posted - 2009.08.15 12:35:00 - [50] Edited by: Croesus on 15/08/2009 12:37:54 Originally by: Jin Nib Being central to a genre does not make it a good book. If you are interested in the study of fantasy, then clearly its must read, but other then that it's hard to recommend it as something worthwhile to read. His strength is in creating compelling ideas (like Ents and the tree wives or Tom Bombadillo) and that rests in the absolutely stunning depth he created for his world. He fails to parlay that into a gripping story, or even a mediocre one, and his biggest failing is in not making compelling characters, they are so one dimensional they might as well not exist at all. disagree with some of the stuff said here, but for the most part fair. I think the fundemetlas of his story are great, even though his storytelling can be a bit dry. I also think you nailed the reason why a love it. absolutely stunning depth he created for his world
Louis deGuerre Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia	Posted - 2009.08.15 13:09:00 - [51] Originally by: Awesome Possum God what I wouldn't give a Granny/Vetinari showdown. (Though they would probably just agree with each other and take over the universe) Quoted for epicness. Now I'll be thinking about this all day --- Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
nahtoh Caldari Vanguard Frontiers	Posted - 2009.08.15 20:02:00 - [52] Originally by: Croesus Originally by: Rulkez Edited by: Rulkez on 14/08/2009 20:53:11 Originally by: Croesus Originally by: Rulkez If you think LOTR is the height of the the genre, and that most fantasy is derived from the LOTR formula, then you simply are not well enough read to be commenting on the genre. LOTR is the hight of the genre. currently im reading that Malazan, book of the fallen books, first two were pretty ** poor but they are getting better. If your genre is limited to farmboy goes on quest to save the world type novels then sure LOTR takes some beating, but again , if were are talking about fantasy as a whole , then If you think LOTR is as good as it gets you simply have not read enough . I can see why MBOTF would be a difficult read for you if you truly believe LOTR is the glass ceiling for the genre. no need to hate just because you got ** taste. Strike of the rabid LOTR fan? Tastes differ get over it... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self

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