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TorrusTron
Caldari 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.08.14 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Zverofaust It has become quite obvious to every Minmatar militia pilot that at this stage the 24th Imperial Crusade and its affiliates are a force on the run.
In the past several weeks the Amarr militia have engaged in little more than guerilla tactics against a far larger and more powerful force. Plying the spacelanes in interceptors, frigates and the odd cruiser, their tactics have switched from defeating us to merely harassing us on a pathetically small scale, managing to destroy a few ships here and there with ambushes and fast attacks (which, I admit, they do quite well) but hopelessly outgunned.
they seem like perfectly good tactics to me when 'hopelessly outgunned'. If only the 24th had a star fraction type allie things may be more interesting. No i dont mean CVA, i mean a force that actually takes part. The only time i have seen CVA in the bleak lands was when the brought in a cap fleet to kamela and then destroyed a 24th harbinger. thanks but no thanks
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.08.14 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Garst Tyrell Confirming I "never" undock in a battleship.
And somehow minmitar fleets keep dying. You might want to revaluate your tactics.
your bravery is not proof of the 24th crusader's bravery. Your fellows can't ride your coat tails nor hide behind your honor.
odd, you speak of bravery and riding coat tails, yet SF fights while hiding behind the minmatar militia to get their kills, where is the bravery in that, and who is riding whos coat tails exactly, seems SF is riding the minnies.
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.08.14 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Garst Tyrell Confirming I "never" undock in a battleship.
And somehow minmitar fleets keep dying. You might want to revaluate your tactics.
your bravery is not proof of the 24th crusader's bravery. Your fellows can't ride your coat tails nor hide behind your honor.
odd, you speak of bravery and riding coat tails, yet SF fights while hiding behind the minmatar militia to get their kills, where is the bravery in that, and who is riding whos coat tails exactly, seems SF is riding the minnies.
Of course we do. Oh yes. Certainly. Anyone can see that.
You know one day a loyalist Amarrian will actually try and post something that will bear up to more than a couple of minutes observational scrutiny.
Heartstone. ---
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.08.14 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Zverofaust It has become quite obvious to every Minmatar militia pilot that at this stage the 24th Imperial Crusade and its affiliates are a force on the run.
In the past several weeks the Amarr militia have engaged in little more than guerilla tactics against a far larger and more powerful force. Plying the spacelanes in interceptors, frigates and the odd cruiser, their tactics have switched from defeating us to merely harassing us on a pathetically small scale, managing to destroy a few ships here and there with ambushes and fast attacks (which, I admit, they do quite well) but hopelessly outgunned.
Were you there today when we cruiser ****d your ships at the kam gate in kourm?, or earlier this morning when we did the same on the kourm gate in Kam? all the while still being outnumbered? Proof that your numbers give you a level of superiority which earns you kills, but proof that you are not more powerful then we of the Amarr Militia whom have shown a uncanny ability to overcome those numbers.
The numbers of the matar militia pilots is the only thing you have had since the dawn of this war, and the Amarrian Militia has always been outnumbered, not only with the the matar, but their 3rd party allies also assiting them, and we still prevail. Your chest beating is meaningless given you cannot defeat us with more numbers, and even more pointless when you cant defeat us with a outside allaince "assisting" you on a daily basis.
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.08.14 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Garst Tyrell Confirming I "never" undock in a battleship.
And somehow minmitar fleets keep dying. You might want to revaluate your tactics.
your bravery is not proof of the 24th crusader's bravery. Your fellows can't ride your coat tails nor hide behind your honor.
odd, you speak of bravery and riding coat tails, yet SF fights while hiding behind the minmatar militia to get their kills, where is the bravery in that, and who is riding whos coat tails exactly, seems SF is riding the minnies.
you think so do ya?
back in reality:
my point was that the "Garst Tyrell" types are few and far between and he can not stand up as an "Average" example; his badditude is not the common flair among your people anymore. You need to recruit more Garst and less Bashiri if you want honor, respect and success. |
Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.08.14 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Heartstone
Originally by: Invelious
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Garst Tyrell Confirming I "never" undock in a battleship.
And somehow minmitar fleets keep dying. You might want to revaluate your tactics.
your bravery is not proof of the 24th crusader's bravery. Your fellows can't ride your coat tails nor hide behind your honor.
odd, you speak of bravery and riding coat tails, yet SF fights while hiding behind the minmatar militia to get their kills, where is the bravery in that, and who is riding whos coat tails exactly, seems SF is riding the minnies.
Of course we do. Oh yes. Certainly. Anyone can see that.
You know one day a loyalist Amarrian will actually try and post something that will bear up to more than a couple of minutes observational scrutiny.
Heartstone.
Well maybe one day if SF can actually not make it so blantantly obvious and so easy to point out their faults and failings, then yes, maybe we amarrians will be able to produce something with a bit more substance.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.08.14 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Invelious on 14/08/2009 23:34:39
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Invelious
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Garst Tyrell Confirming I "never" undock in a battleship.
And somehow minmitar fleets keep dying. You might want to revaluate your tactics.
your bravery is not proof of the 24th crusader's bravery. Your fellows can't ride your coat tails nor hide behind your honor.
odd, you speak of bravery and riding coat tails, yet SF fights while hiding behind the minmatar militia to get their kills, where is the bravery in that, and who is riding whos coat tails exactly, seems SF is riding the minnies.
you think so do ya?
back in reality:
my point was that the "Garst Tyrell" types are few and far between and he can not stand up as an "Average" example; his badditude is not the common flair among your people anymore. You need to recruit more Garst and less Bashiri if you want honor, respect and success.
And my point is that you lack honour, respect and success. I established the facts supporting my statement, and as always, you have a hard time accepting it, and thus produce this spin that we are all reading now.
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.08.14 23:34:00 -
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Que? |
Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.08.14 23:36:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 14/08/2009 23:36:42
Originally by: Invelious ... and even more pointless when you cant defeat us with a outside allaince "assisting" you on a daily basis.
You need to make your mind up as to whether Star Fraction is an irrelevant nothing or key ally of the Minmatar Freedom movement - at the moment you seem to change your mind every 30 minutes and the only credibility you are straining is your own.
3rd Forces in FW - discuss! |
Bashiri
Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2009.08.15 16:01:00 -
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It turns out sf needs some bashing.
Anyways gf to minmatar they did a great job this week. Keep amarr pilots on there toes and sneak attacks.
For those who said i started to bash SF please read the sentence once more i'd like to see your name in there. Thanks for turning this thread into a SF vs Amarr chest beat again.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.08.15 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Bashiri For those who said i started to bash SF please read the sentence once more i'd like to see your name in there. Thanks for turning this thread into a SF vs Amarr chest beat again.
Your reference was completely obvious to those who witnessed the engagement and your local channel comments around the time. Don't insult the intelligence of the audience by claiming otherwise. As ever if you wish to silence the Star Fraction you will need to do it in space.
3rd Forces in FW - discuss! |
Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.08.15 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 14/08/2009 23:36:42
Originally by: Invelious ... and even more pointless when you cant defeat us with a outside allaince "assisting" you on a daily basis.
You need to make your mind up as to whether Star Fraction is an irrelevant nothing or key ally of the Minmatar Freedom movement - at the moment you seem to change your mind every 30 minutes and the only credibility you are straining is your own.
Yes, well, clearly your the option is and always has been, your irrelevant. Even in that statement you just qouted me on it indicates that the minmatar still fail with outside assistance, SF being the main assistance to the minmatar. So if the minmatar still fail, and your helping them, what does that say about your help that your providing?
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.08.15 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 14/08/2009 23:36:42
Originally by: Invelious ... and even more pointless when you cant defeat us with a outside allaince "assisting" you on a daily basis.
You need to make your mind up as to whether Star Fraction is an irrelevant nothing or key ally of the Minmatar Freedom movement - at the moment you seem to change your mind every 30 minutes and the only credibility you are straining is your own.
Yes, well, clearly your the option is and always has been, your irrelevant. Even in that statement you just qouted me on it indicates that the minmatar still fail with outside assistance, SF being the main assistance to the minmatar. So if the minmatar still fail, and your helping them, what does that say about your help that your providing?
Its hard to back track when you contradict yourself isn't it? Got to make all these convoluted explanations.
a tip: don't try to pass a lie off as truth, give your enemy their due and be respected for it. |
Bashiri
Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2009.08.15 19:23:00 -
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GF minmatar sf get a life?
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Chereadenine Zakalwe
Caldari Helljumpers Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.08.15 21:31:00 -
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Had some really good times flying against minnies in FW, interesting fights, and not a huge amount of blobs, and alot of good fun! The only time i came across a SF pilot was shortly after they Cancelled the war dec against Helljumpers... Some random SF Rax sat off an Amarr Militia camped gate.Nobody wanted to take the sec hit, so i took one for the team
GF folks.... ô您
Telling somebody you love them is like firing first in a dual. Your screwed if you miss.. |
Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.08.15 21:52:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1149940
where was SF during this fight. |
Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.08.15 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1149940
where was SF during this fight.
Personally I was planet side watching a Holo-Vid with my family. As for why we weren't there I have been informed we simply weren't told about it.
Heartstone.
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Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
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Posted - 2009.08.15 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zverofaust It has become quite obvious to every Minmatar militia pilot that at this stage the 24th Imperial Crusade and its affiliates are a force on the run.
Those forces just run over a Dread, 2 Carriers and approx 50 Support. |
Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.08.15 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Heartstone
Originally by: Invelious http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1149940
where was SF during this fight.
Personally I was planet side watching a Holo-Vid with my family. As for why we weren't there I have been informed we simply weren't told about it.
Heartstone.
correct, it was ad hoc.
90 amarr (30+BS and assorted support) vs 60 minmatar (10 BS + 3 caps and assorted support)
obviously by the fleet composition and the nature of capital ships the Amarr had massively superior firepower in addition to their numbers. Respect where it is due, the Amarr succeeded at a well prosecuted operation.
The real props go to the minmatar who mounted up organically and hit that blob with anything they could grab instead of running into high-sec and down grading into interceptors. To fight out numbered and out gunned and still risk fielding capital ships to try and gain some balance is true courage. We all know when heavy battleships fleets can get their meat hooks into capital ships, so bravo to those three pilots who tried to help even the scales.
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.08.15 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Droog 1
Originally by: Zverofaust It has become quite obvious to every Minmatar militia pilot that at this stage the 24th Imperial Crusade and its affiliates are a force on the run.
Those forces just run over a Dread, 2 Carriers and approx 50 Support.
no the 24th will fight when they have vastly superior odds, over 3 to 1 on the DPS dealing. in this case they had odds even when the capitals came out, but it was indeed closer.
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Bashiri
Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2009.08.15 23:46:00 -
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I hope your not counting caldari. They only came at the very end when the caps was the only ships left on the field.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.08.16 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Heartstone
Originally by: Invelious http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1149940
where was SF during this fight.
Personally I was planet side watching a Holo-Vid with my family. As for why we weren't there I have been informed we simply weren't told about it.
Heartstone.
Planetside attending a birthday celebration with friends here. We can't be there all the times.
Looks like you that fight handily Invelious but you should take a lesson from the courage shown by the minmatar - they aren't afraid to fight against the odds and from that they draw a great deal of strength even in defeat.
Something for you to emulate perhaps?
3rd Forces in FW - discuss! |
Sahriah BloodStone
Caldari Burning Avarice
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Posted - 2009.08.16 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Looks like you won that fight handily Invelious but you should take a lesson from the courage shown by the minmatar - they aren't afraid to fight against the odds and from that they draw a great deal of strength even in defeat.
Something for you to emulate perhaps? Lets hope we see more Deus and 24th Crusade Battleships in open space during the week ahead.
Funney because i remember about a week ago when the minmatar and the amarr had very nice EQUAL fleet sizes and ship types, and the minmatar still wouldnt engage us until they got backup from a moros..oh yes you can taste the courage there
---------------------- Sahriah Bloodstone Burning Avarice
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Bashiri
Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2009.08.16 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Sahriah BloodStone
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Looks like you won that fight handily Invelious but you should take a lesson from the courage shown by the minmatar - they aren't afraid to fight against the odds and from that they draw a great deal of strength even in defeat.
Something for you to emulate perhaps? Lets hope we see more Deus and 24th Crusade Battleships in open space during the week ahead.
Funney because i remember about a week ago when the minmatar and the amarr had very nice EQUAL fleet sizes and ship types, and the minmatar still wouldnt engage us until they got backup from a moros..oh yes you can taste the courage there
No no no dont try to talk sense to them. Remember 2 days ago when gallenete and minmatar + sf was in kamela they had 100 vs 40 but you know we still went in.
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Sahriah BloodStone
Caldari Burning Avarice
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Posted - 2009.08.16 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: Bashiri
No no no dont try to talk sense to them. Remember 2 days ago when gallenete and minmatar + sf was in kamela they had 100 vs 40 but you know we still went in.
Not everyone is present all the time, so if instead of us beating our chests at how awesome we think we are, maybe everyone should stop and realise that we arn't present at 100% of engagements and therefore cannot accuratly judge what goes on when we are not around and make rash generalizations. At least thats what i teach my few slaves. They are taught logic and reason, and how pointless it is to point fingers when they are guilty of the same things. I'm sure Star faction are educated enough, therefore i can only assume that they choose not to think things over properly, a pity that so few pilots on both sides are disciplined.
Also, i wouldn't go asking for a fight from SF Bashiri even if you don't technically use their name. They arn't stupid and you are better then that even if they are not, so live up to the empresses expectations.
---------------------- Sahriah Bloodstone Burning Avarice
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BattleStar Crusader
Amarr Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2009.08.16 07:20:00 -
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Hey Zerofaust, I wouldnt say we were on the run. Yeh we have shy'ed away from a few major engagements and usually engaging in sub battlecruiser hulls. But look what it led to, while we prepared and planed you guys grew impatient. You used carriers to supoprt the fleets in the hope that it would snare us into an all out engagement. You placed the bait saterday night and when we bit, we locked our jaws around that carrier and didnt let go. We used you overconfidense against you and it clearley shows.
It was an insanley good fight and as far as the killbaords show a complete and utter victory. 75 minmitar lay slain on the field and only 18 taken in return.
Good fight minmitar. Repsect is yours.
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Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
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Posted - 2009.08.16 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Droog 1
Originally by: Zverofaust It has become quite obvious to every Minmatar militia pilot that at this stage the 24th Imperial Crusade and its affiliates are a force on the run.
Those forces just run over a Dread, 2 Carriers and approx 50 Support.
no the 24th will fight when they have vastly superior odds, over 3 to 1 on the DPS dealing. in this case they had odds even when the capitals came out, but it was indeed closer.
good times.
According to Zerofaust the Minmattar have the upper hand in numbers and have been forming 35 man fleets to chase 4 people in Interceptors for hours on end. Knowing when to fight is part of being a good FC and clearly the Minmattar FC who decided to launch capships into the fray with such a poorly constructed support fleet made a tactical mistake of epic proportion.
In recent weeks the Minmattar have lost occupancy in key systems, lost members when Dark Rising and RKK left. Alienated their Gallente allies, lost 3 capships in one battle to a far superior force and Ammamake is starting to fill with pirates again.
Meanwhile Minmattar militia members are bringing WCS fitted frigs with Salvaging equipment where their guns should be to back up their Capital ships in fleet fights.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.08.16 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Droog 1 In recent weeks the Minmattar have lost occupancy in key systems, lost members when Dark Rising and RKK left. Alienated their Gallente allies, lost 3 capships in one battle to a far superior force and Ammamake is starting to fill with pirates again.
Sounds like its the ideal time for the 24th Crusade to upship and return to fully-armed patrols with large-hulled vessels again! You have the advantage time to use it!
3rd Forces in FW - discuss! |
The Yzzerman
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2009.08.16 13:16:00 -
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First, It was good fight ,second respect to amarr who brought that kind of numbers to kill 3 caps from us.
To all those who keep talking about we had , they had Dr Hoffa had bigger numbers isnt important. Minmatar lost this fight , minmatar have won alot other fights. Please stop this talk about NUMBERS of gang size. Its not realavant here, what it all comes down too in the end is that who have the best gang preperd for the fight when it all goes off.
This time Amarr did and I salut them for that,but Amarr be aware Minmatar will come back.
/Yzzerman
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Sahriah BloodStone
Caldari Burning Avarice
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Posted - 2009.08.16 13:22:00 -
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To Yzzerman - As one of the capital pilots who lost their ship, to come here with such a positive attitude shows much character, you sir are a credit to what the minmatar are trying to achieve 07, I wish there were more pilots like you.
---------------------- Sahriah Bloodstone Burning Avarice
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