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Fortis88
Caldari Salvage Corp.
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Posted - 2012.05.28 12:16:00 -
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A proposal to be able to purchase skill points using loyalty points in the loyalty store. It would make Faction Warfare more intense if there was something actually worth gaining (like skill points). And to all those people freaking out reading this, it would not be a 1 to 1 trade in ratio. Nah. To purchase 100,000 skill points would take 2 million loyalty points. Again, I believe this would make FW more interesting and intense considering the number of people who would become involved. One thing to remember is that skill points must NEVER be able to be purchased from the outside using cash. (Cash = Plex = Isk.) However, the benefit to loyalty points is that they can only be EARNED in the game. Not purchased like Aura or Plex. And CCP already has a Loyalty Points store set up. All that would be needed is to add another product - skill point packages.
Basic Package - 100,000 sp Price - 2 million loyalty points.
Standard Package - 500,000 sp Price - 9 million loyalty points.
Advanced Package - 1 million sp Price - 15 million loyalty points.
Please comment. |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery
Team Liquid
140
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Posted - 2012.05.28 12:42:00 -
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rofl no |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7442
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Posted - 2012.05.28 13:33:00 -
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No.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |
Vito Antonio
State War Academy
Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2012.05.28 14:08:00 -
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Yes. |
Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
51
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Posted - 2012.05.28 14:17:00 -
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Fortis88 wrote:
Basic Package - 100,000 sp Price - 2 million loyalty points.
Standard Package - 500,000 sp Price - 9 million loyalty points.
Advanced Package - 1 million sp Price - 15 million loyalty points.
Oh look, you even thought about 'discount'. Smart. Really smart. Quite a thinker you are. |
Bridgette d'Iberville
DeadStar Marauders
4
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Posted - 2012.05.28 15:05:00 -
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Yes.
Caveat: They can only be used towards ranks in Research Project Management |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
51
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Posted - 2012.05.28 15:58:00 -
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It will be unfair for any player to get extra skillpoints with any mechanic that all players cannot enjoy. Playing time, ISK, RL Cash, FW LP, Kill Ratio, whatever.
I think a better idea might be to let us remap our attributes at uniform intervals.
One year increments might be good.
Maybe throw in a gift remap for all payers at Christmas or something.
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Karak Bol
Cable Innovations
Cloud 7 Nebulosa
35
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Posted - 2012.05.28 16:32:00 -
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Nope
Would be a boost to mission runners mainly. |
Duke Hitari
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.05.28 16:40:00 -
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pls Skill you self |
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
137
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Posted - 2012.05.28 18:37:00 -
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no. |
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Kailean
420 Enterprises
JINN.
1
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Posted - 2012.05.28 19:56:00 -
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Hell no. |
Jack Miton
Bite Me inc
Exhale.
277
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Posted - 2012.05.28 21:55:00 -
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another idiot...
NO. |
Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
130
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Posted - 2012.05.28 22:02:00 -
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Khoda Khan
Zantiu-Braun Corporation
Zantiu-Braun Alliance
13
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Posted - 2012.05.29 03:38:00 -
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Not another one of you people. Seriously, where do you all come from?
No buying skill points. Ever. In any fashion. Not with LPs, not with Aurum, not with ISK, not with cash. If you want immediate satisfaction, go play some other game where everything is handed to you and thus means nothing at all. The skill system in EVE is unique. You can't buy your way up the ladder. You can't grind your way through levels, though you can certainly grind your wallet to obscene levels. You can train skills more or less at the same pace as anyone else, providing you efficiently manage your training.
Another thing to keep in mind. Skill points are not the end all be all of EVE Online. While not having skills might limit what ships you can fly or what modules you can fit, it really takes very minimal time to train the minimum requirements for most things. Most newer players are not at the immense disadvantage against older players that they think they are. The difference between someone like me who spends 30 days training for a 2% rof/damage bonus and someone who spends four days training for the same weapon falls within a statistical margin of error where individual skill, not skill points, is more likely to be the determinant factor in the outcome.
Having a whole lot of skill points isn't always that much fun. On this character I can pretty much fly any ship, any race, use every weapon system effectively, short of capitals, which I loathe something fierce. But I spend the majority of my play time on any one of my many alt accounts that have far less SP. For me at least, they tend to be more fun. Though never quite as much fun as my early days of EVE when "unlocking" a new ship or module was something new and exciting, something to look forward to as the days and hours on the skill menu counted down ever so slowly. And when they finished? A sense of accomplishment.
Rambled on enough. To reiterate my opinion on your proposal, hell no. My counter proposal? Take my initial advice and find another game to play that better fits your need for instant gratification and meaningless "level ups". |
lol fourm troll
State War Academy
Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2012.05.29 03:47:00 -
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You already can, use LP to buy faction item, sell item for ISK, use risk to buy PLEX, use PLEX for game time, train another 30 days worth of SP |
Linda Shadowborn
Dark Steel Industries
125
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Posted - 2012.05.29 05:30:00 -
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NO!!!!! |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
3986
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Posted - 2012.05.29 06:43:00 -
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Fortis88 wrote:A proposal to be able to purchase skill points using loyalty points in the loyalty store. It would make Faction Warfare more intense if there was something actually worth gaining (like skill points). And to all those people freaking out reading this, it would not be a 1 to 1 trade in ratio. Nah. To purchase 100,000 skill points would take 2 million loyalty points. Again, I believe this would make FW more interesting and intense considering the number of people who would become involved. One thing to remember is that skill points must NEVER be able to be purchased from the outside using cash. (Cash = Plex = Isk.) However, the benefit to loyalty points is that they can only be EARNED in the game. Not purchased like Aura or Plex. And CCP already has a Loyalty Points store set up. All that would be needed is to add another product - skill point packages.
Basic Package - 100,000 sp Price - 2 million loyalty points.
Standard Package - 500,000 sp Price - 9 million loyalty points.
Advanced Package - 1 million sp Price - 15 million loyalty points.
Please comment.
Instead, how about skillpoints for causing skillpoint loss? I mean why should mission running be rewarded out of all professions? Why not the honourable and ISK sinking profession of pod-killer?
Seriously though: no
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Drew Solaert
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
181
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Posted - 2012.05.29 15:44:00 -
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******* terrible idea, often suggested and will only end up forcing people to mission *****, at the cost of all that other fun ****.
If this was to happen, i would want to see the LP store completely removed, LP cuts across the board for every mission at every level, and for all other in game professions to pay out "teh **** ton" of isk, while mission rats become bounty and lootless. Complete removal of LP from Incursions and FW.
Then we could start beginning to even consider it as "not as utterly **** idea"
I lied :o
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Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe
Test Alliance Please Ignore
250
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Posted - 2012.05.30 12:33:00 -
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I wish there was an automatic [JUSTNO!] button for every ideas regarding free/exchangeable skillpoints. I truly do.
"Eve isnGÇÖt some welcoming online utopia: itGÇÖs cut-throat, cruel, atavistic despite the futuristic setting. Give people a sandbox, and theyGÇÖll throw the sand in a rivalGÇÖs eyes before kicking them in the shins and destroying their sandcastle." -Keza MacDonald, IGN. |
Degren
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1088
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:35:00 -
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hahahaahahahahaha no
You don't know |
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ColdCutz
Pwny Nation
7
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:29:00 -
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Get out. |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
948
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Posted - 2012.05.31 12:43:00 -
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The whole point of Eve's SP system is that you don't have to grind to get them.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Srioghal moDhream
B and T Inc
9
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Posted - 2012.05.31 18:44:00 -
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You can already buy SP, why do you need another way to do it? |
Aulx-Gao Ekanon
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.05.31 19:15:00 -
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No. Just, no.
It's not paranoia if everyone really is out to get you.-á |
Damien Sahl
Arkhon Enterprises
Guardians of Serenity
8
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:29:00 -
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Hrm.... If you miss the grind do much go back to Wow.
/dance |
Jho Ren
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.06.01 00:58:00 -
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Or... we could have a Plex lottery organised by CCP! Players can buy tickets with plex and the top prize could be one hundred million skillpoints! And several smaller prizes starting at 1 million SP. It's genius! I mean, what could possibly go wrong?! |
Fortis88
Caldari Salvage Corp.
9
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Posted - 2012.06.01 13:49:00 -
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hahaha. |
Suqq Madiq
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2012.06.01 18:03:00 -
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This already exists. It's called get out of your mom's basement, get a job, buy some GTC, convert to ISK, go to Character Bazaar, buy as many characters with as many SP as you want. Done. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.06.03 05:02:00 -
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The day CCP starts selling SP will be the day Eve dies. What would be the point if everyone had 400 million SP?
Short answer... NO |
Karak Bol
Cable Innovations
Cloud 7 Nebulosa
36
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Posted - 2012.06.03 16:52:00 -
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The basic message of this thread: There is only one thing were all Eve-players of ~6 months+ agree :D |
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