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Saint VII
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Posted - 2009.08.11 18:04:00 -
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As I said in another thread, I am a beginner, so take this with a grain of salt. When I made the transition from L1 to L2 missions, I noticed a substantial uptick in income. The rewards are quite a bit better, the bounties are a lot more, I seem to get a lot more meta 2 and meta 3 drops, etc.
Last night I tried to run some L3 missions with my friends. I was surprised to see that the mission rewards seemed to be in almost the identical range as L2 missions? (75 to 500k including completion bonus). Bounties were definitely better.
I read people talking about L4 missions and how you make millions of ISK, etc, and am thinking about my goals over the next month or so. And, maybe it was just my impression based on a bad night, but there seems to be a disconnect from L2 to L3 to L4. So I was wondering what you guys think. Are L3 missions the short end of the stick?
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Saint VII
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.08.11 18:14:00 -
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Hmm, I did change systems, but I thought that only agent quality, rather than system security status, impacted reward amounts. Is that incorrect? There was a quality change, but from a -12 L2 to a -19 (I think..) L3 I still expected a jump in rewards, especially since the difficulty of the opponents jumped.
I guess I am feeling a sort of gap in my carebear income progression here, and wondering if others felt that way too.
No great scoundrel is ever uninteresting. |
Saint VII
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.08.11 18:32:00 -
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OK, but even so, when I see a thread like this:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1111964
It seems like mission rewards don't go up very much from L2 to L3, then go up by a HUGE leap from L3 to L4. It just doens't seem like the L3 missions are making sense from that perspective. But I'll try another system or something and see if that helps.
No great scoundrel is ever uninteresting. |
Saint VII
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.08.12 04:46:00 -
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Did some more tonight and rewards and especially LP awarded seem very similar to L2 agents. Starting to wonder if something is wrong with Republic Fleet, b/c my friend recalled getting 4 or 5x as much LP for L3 agents for core complexion.
No great scoundrel is ever uninteresting. |
Saint VII
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.08.12 17:27:00 -
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Zandrox it sounds like you are having the same experience I am having, with Republic Fleet. I would have to check other corps to be sure, but from what people describe, it seems like Republic Fleet L3 missions are not OK. They are providing significantly less LP and cash for their rewards than other corps?
Yes I agree the ships and bounties therein are another story, but still, there should be relative parity for the rewards themselves.
No great scoundrel is ever uninteresting. |
Saint VII
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.08.13 13:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Babel
Also, reward/bonus/LPs take into consideration yr personal standing from an agent, so whenever you start to work for someone new the return is comparatively low. As your standing with the agent increases [which is does pretty fast], so will your returns. :)
That might have a lot to do with it, depending on how sensitive the rewards are to your individual standing with the agent. Although, I really don't remember having this feeling when I went from L1 to L2. At that time, I felt like "ok, now I can make some money!", whereas this time, from L2 to L3, I've been feeling like "are these even worth doing?"
g0g, I went from the L2 Fleet agent in Lustrevik to the L3 Fleet agent in Isendeldik. This is off the top of my head, but I think the qualities are -12 and -19, respectively.
No great scoundrel is ever uninteresting. |
Saint VII
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.08.13 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Saint VII on 13/08/2009 16:18:00
Originally by: Zandrox
I don't recall off hand who my L2 agent was. It was one of the ones in the Gulf-Gelf-Teon mission hub. I'm not overly concerned about the mission rewards as I do salvage and loot after I am done and that provides at least, if not more, income than the mission and bounties themselves. From 4-5 L3 missions last night I made from 9-10mil. From the loot and salvage I made about 10-11 mil. This was over the course of about 2-3 hours given the AFK time I had. This puts the missions firmly in the 7mil/hr which is what I had been lead to expect from L3 missions. Can I make more mining in my hulk? Yes. But Missions are at least somewhat more interesting plus I get rep and LP which translates into jump clones, implants and skill books.
Could you clarify - do you mean that you made 9 to 10 million from 4 or 5 mission rewards + priate bounties, and then an additional 10 to 11 million from selling loot and salvage on top of that? That is where I expected L3 missions to fall, and the two agents I've tried working with in Republic Fleet are nowhere near that level. 6 or 7 missions the other night yielded 5 million in loot and salvage, and 4 to 5 million in rewards and bounties.
I will start to record in better detail so we can sort any potential issue here (beyond inexplicably horrible luck ofc ;)
I also have the issue of loyalty points - the L3's are giving an equal or lower number of loyalty points than the L2's were giving me.
No great scoundrel is ever uninteresting. |
Saint VII
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.08.14 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Zandrox
What kind of numbers or return are you expecting?
I was expecting numbers like yours - actually I was expecting worse than yours. What I got was a small fraction of what you have reported, tho. I'll keep plugging away and see if I can figure out what my issue is. Really appreciate the detailed post.
No great scoundrel is ever uninteresting. |
Saint VII
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.08.17 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: MN Norse
Just coming off a lvl 2 missions and going to lvl 3 won't be a huge jump at first, as your new agent doesn't really like you. But after you start running more missions the rewards start looking better and better. The payout isn't stellar, but it is a big jump in LP, loot quality, and bounties.
I do notice the big jump in bounties and salvage. Loot quality, its been luck of the draw. Standings increase - about double. But mission payout, either in LP and in ISK.. just not seeing it yet. The ISK I suppose is not as big a concern, given all the other drivers of ISK are way up. But the LP.. hrm.
No great scoundrel is ever uninteresting. |
Saint VII
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.08.18 18:38:00 -
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Thank you guys. As a tangent, why is it that so many Republic Fleet agents are in low sec? Was my choice to work on Fleet standing first not a smart one, for a new player?
No great scoundrel is ever uninteresting. |
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