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Xcen	Posted - 2009.08.12 04:07:00 - [1] Currently im running with a hurricane. Lemme tell you guys it isnt working out as nearly as well as i have wanted it to. Alot of the time im primaried and go down pretty dang fast no matter what i do. anyways I'm now wondering what i should be using in group pvp. I can fly minmatar minmatar bs and lower, (do to current skill lvl i have no desire to use bs) I can also fly rapier/huginn (no cloaking 4 yet though, prolly should be flying a rapier then) Usually in a mixed gang of hac,bc, (perhaps a few bs) So what do i fly and what fit should i use on that ship? I either need a ship thats primaried less.. or a ship that can tank for awhile longer if primaried, perferably cheap. (ive been thinking cyclone but without adv wep upgrades alot of the more popular fits dont work out...) Thnx for any ideas -xcen
Kismo	Posted - 2009.08.12 04:11:00 - [2] Edited by: Kismo on 12/08/2009 04:13:18 Nevermind, I see it. HAC/BC gangs. Ummmmm, my recommendation would be the Hurricane but I tend to fly the Cyclone because it's cheaper. My fit is: 5x 425 AC, 3 HAM MWD, LSE, Invuln, Disruptor, Web 3x Gyro, DC 4 Hammerhead I leave the rigs off because I'm a cheap ho.
Crackzilla The Shadow Order	Posted - 2009.08.12 04:38:00 - [3] Scimitar, just to be different. Or you can aim to be primary, pick ships likely to be primary, then fit for buffer/bait versus dps.
Xcen	Posted - 2009.08.12 04:52:00 - [4] Edited by: Xcen on 12/08/2009 04:56:38 Edited by: Xcen on 12/08/2009 04:56:08 Edited by: Xcen on 12/08/2009 04:53:36 Originally by: Kismo Edited by: Kismo on 12/08/2009 04:13:18 Nevermind, I see it. HAC/BC gangs. Ummmmm, my recommendation would be the Hurricane but I tend to fly the Cyclone because it's cheaper. My fit is: 5x 425 AC, 3 HAM MWD, LSE, Invuln, Disruptor, Web 3x Gyro, DC 4 Hammerhead I leave the rigs off because I'm a cheap ho. No shield booster??? huge em hole? Is that mainly going for large dps, cheap price? Originally by: Crackzilla Scimitar, just to be different. Or you can aim to be primary, pick ships likely to be primary, then fit for buffer/bait versus dps. Not really into the entire healing thing... when u say buffer tank, what/tank what would u recommend
Xcen	Posted - 2009.08.12 05:02:00 - [5] boredom bump
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.08.12 05:14:00 - [6] Originally by: Xcen when u say buffer tank, what/tank what would u recommend Something like this, I guess. Rigs optional, wait for apocrypha 1.5 for cheaper prices. Quote: [Hurricane, Armor Buffer] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Hobgoblin II x5 __________________________________ Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.08.12 05:28:00 - [7] Who cares if you die in a cane? That's what insurance is for. Either stay in that or switch to a rapier or scimi. Expect to be primary even more though. You could try a nano fit and just burn away if you get primaried. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.08.12 05:30:00 - [8] 10 man gang should have 1-2 scimis. So just get someone into it or sit yourself in one. And suddenly your gang survivalability will go thru the roof.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.08.12 05:38:00 - [9] Originally by: Deva Blackfire 10 man gang should have 1-2 scimis. So just get someone into it or sit yourself in one. And suddenly your gang survivalability will go thru the roof. I'd say if you are going to have any logistics in the gang it should if at all possible be a minimum of two of them if not three so they can do the cap transfer array trick and be able to fit a strong local buffer tank plus still support each other if needed. Originally by: Zaqar Anyway, you don't have to be Einstein to play Eve - a quick glance over the forums will tell you that -
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.08.12 05:42:00 - [10] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Deva Blackfire 10 man gang should have 1-2 scimis. So just get someone into it or sit yourself in one. And suddenly your gang survivalability will go thru the roof. I'd say if you are going to have any logistics in the gang it should if at all possible be a minimum of two of them if not three so they can do the cap transfer array trick and be able to fit a strong local buffer tank plus still support each other if needed. While I agree that logistic pairs are indeed very effective sadly the Scimitar can't do this effectively as it doesn't have cap transfer bonuses. I'm not sure how much better 2x basilisk would be than 2x scimitar though, you can get 3 or even 4 large shield transfers permarunning on a scimitar pretty easily without having to have cap transferred to it... __________________________________ Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
prefectro Minmatar tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.08.12 05:42:00 - [11] For an 8-11 man gang you can try the following Matar ships. Vaga, Rapier (when you can use cov ops cloak), Sabre, Muninn, Stiletto, Huginn, Broadsword, Scimitar, Claymore, Sleipnir, Hound or try an Arty-Cane and keep some distance.
Hiroshima Jita	Posted - 2009.08.12 05:43:00 - [12] [Rupture, Im doing it wrong.] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Rocket Small Energy Neutralizer II Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Hobgoblin II x4 Hammerhead II x1 ^^ Rig it post patch. Cheap. High DPS for a cruiser. Slow for a cruiser but a good brawler. [Rifter, Gay Tackler] Power Diagnostic System II Gyrostabilizer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Medium Shield Extender II J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Rocket 125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, EMP S 125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, EMP S 125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, EMP S Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Core Defence Field Extender I ^^Tackle things. Screw up other frigates. Something is going wrong. Can you link your KB? I'm assuming its mostly a pilot skill problem or your fc sucks. Figure it out. In either case I recomend you pick one of the two ships linked above and get some practice in them.

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