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Skomorokh al'Harlequin
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Posted - 2009.08.13 01:50:00 -
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Currently, I 'solo' level 4's with a dominix, and have my alt hanging around salvaging wrecks in a Catalyst as they die.
I'd like to speed up my missions a bit by fitting my Ishtar with sentry damage rigs & omni's to add a bit of dps to my drones. Of course, this would make it much more difficult to tank in the Ishtar, and so I started looking for a fit that would let my alt both tank the majority of a full level 4 spawn, and have enough cargo space & high slots for a salvage & tractors.
The drake looks promising, or perhaps a passive myrm for the extra drone space.
Another option would be to fit the salvaging gear & cargo expanders on the Ishtar, and slap some launchers on the drake for a little more dps, since the Ish shouldn't need to tank anything anyhow.
Is this worth doing (either option), anyone have a fit for the first that might work(?), or am I totally off my rocker?
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foobarx
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Posted - 2009.08.13 04:16:00 -
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For me it's faster to gank fit the second ship and then come back with a dedicated salvager after the mission is turned in.
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Von Kapiche
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.08.13 04:41:00 -
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I use a 'phoon as a second ship, with cargo expanders+ a basic active shield tank, and some cruise+salvage gear in highs. Together with drones it adds some useful dps, cleans up the mission sufficiently fast and if it gets aggro it won't die & most of the time can just tank, and it's got enough cargo space to clean up most missions ( given I only do a few large ones anyway a lot of space is reasonably important ). Big enough dronebay to carry logistics drones as well if you need them.
That alt doesn't have enough skill to fly a combat battleship so not really much point trying to use it as a 2nd gankboat, but my mission times went down enough to make the effort worthwhile.
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BigBobbom
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Posted - 2009.08.13 06:26:00 -
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ishtar can pull off a passive shield tank pretty well especially if your moving with an AB.
[Ishtar, ]
Power Diagnostic System II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Salvager I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
Ogre II x5
Curator II x5
Warrior II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Depending on the mission or what you want you can swap the lows around for more speed, tank or cargo room. Does a respectable amount of DPS with either heavy drones or sentries.
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Darthewok
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.13 06:28:00 -
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Edited by: Darthewok on 13/08/2009 06:33:58
Or you could keep your main in the Domi but switch the Alt from the Catalyst to a "Salvage and Support DPS" Myrmidon. 3 tractors and 3 salvagers, permaruns AB for >300m/s speed and has drones to help the Domi finish those BS rats faster. Basically consider this as putting drones on your catalyst in exchange for a little mobility and 2 highslots.
[Myrmidon, Salvage + Support DPS]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager II
Salvager II
Salvager II
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
Hammerhead II x5
Your mileage may vary
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Arrs Grazznic
Pawn Sauce
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Posted - 2009.08.13 12:51:00 -
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 Originally by: foobarx
For me it's faster to gank fit the second ship and then come back with a dedicated salvager after the mission is turned in.
This. Unless your are missioning where there are ninja salvagers, in which case GTFO of the mission hubs.
Cheers,
Arrs
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar
Icarus Prime
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Posted - 2009.08.13 13:06:00 -
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Edited by: Bomberlocks on 13/08/2009 13:08:22
Cane -- possibly Something similar in a Myrm
[Highs]
4 x salvager II (or I)
4 x Tractor beam
[Meds]
3 x Cap Recharger II (or named)
1 x 100MN AB (yes 100mn)
[Lows]
6 x cargo expander II
1 x Inertia Stabilzer II
Gives 1600m3 cargo, the 100MN is for getting up to speed in deadspace (so you don't have to switch between AB or MWD). You could alternatively fit CCCs in the rigs and use an AB and a MWD, or fit Salvage Rigs (but be warned that they'll make the ship even more ungainly than it already is due to the 6 CEIIs).
With the big AB you get up to around 650m/s on my skills.
Edit: Sorry did not read the OP. My apologies. This is my salvage ship and is usually good enough, but of course could not be used when aggroed.
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Alsyth
Astromechanica Maxima
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Posted - 2009.08.13 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: foobarx
For me it's faster to gank fit the second ship and then come back with a dedicated salvager after the mission is turned in.
This.
I do my lvl4 with a (tank & dps) Drake and a (only dps) Maelstrom, and I like it. Besides, I don't like salvaging while the other ship fight at the same place.
But I often start missions with the Drake while the Hurricane is still salvaging, and come back later with the Maelstrom to kill the 15 mission BSs the Drake is tanking because he killed all the frigates/cruisers and trigger.
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Aklari
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Posted - 2009.08.13 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: foobarx
For me it's faster to gank fit the second ship and then come back with a dedicated salvager after the mission is turned in.
I can appreciate how this makes sense, but there are indeed ninja salvagers where I live. Not as bad as CN regions, but bad enough.
The other issue is that my alt is mainly an industrial / orca alt, with some shield skills, and obviously what I need for salvaging, but no gunnery / missile skills whatsoever, so the benefit of popping him in a gank setup would be somewhat muted.
I had intended to outfit the Ishtar something like:
High:
Salvs
Tractors
Drone link aug
Med:
AB
Omni trackinglinks x 2-3
Target Painter
Low:
Cargo Expanders(?)
Rig:
Sentry Damage x2
With the drone damage mods in the mids, it doesn't leave much cap for an armor tank, nor space for a shield tank.
I'll give it a shot at some point and see how it goes.
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Ghostfire
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Posted - 2009.08.13 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Ghostfire on 13/08/2009 21:52:31
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