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Magan Star
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Posted - 2009.08.13 10:30:00 -
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Is AFK hauling through empire something of the past. Just been the victim of "SILENT TERROR" who had a nice score at my expense. Cant blame him, who doesn't want to make easy isk.
However I cant see anything which one can do to protect themselves from afk hauling. Help anyone?
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Psilocin
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.13 10:40:00 -
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Stop afk hauling.
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Re'taka
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2009.08.13 10:47:00 -
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You can get upwards of 10k effective hp in a t1 hauler, Why do you think they have all that CPU, its for hardeners and passive resist mods.
You can get in the range of 30 to 50k effective HP in a t2 hauler.
You can stop afk hauling.
You can buy an orca and afk haul with it.
Nothing will make you 100% safe, but you can always be safer. Nice thing about the orca is they can't scan the ship's corp hanger, so its a nice safer place to tuck away that stuff worth a lot of isk, and put common junk into your cargo hold to throw them off.
But as posted, the best thing to do is stop flying afk.
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WeaponsHot
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Posted - 2009.08.13 10:48:00 -
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unsecure sectors on empire is more safer these days  coz most of rats concentrate only on highways to amarr/jita/doxie
ah! afk in small thin-cans is thing of past not even a BS is safer anymore 
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Magan Star
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Posted - 2009.08.13 10:59:00 -
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Would a combination of using secure containers and shield buffer tank deter them. Am I right in believing you cant scan the contents or open secure containers if they are password locked?
Not much point having an hauling alt if I cant afk haul. However that may be the case and was the reason for my post.
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente
A Pretty Pony Princess
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.13 11:13:00 -
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 Originally by: WeaponsHot
unsecure sectors on empire is more safer these days coz most of rats concentrate only on highways to amarr/jita/doxie
ah! afk in small thin-cans is thing of past not even a BS is safer anymore
To not to be off to drag on oftin but too having two problem in game of ship of void on internet. To going from letterslab to kitchen to of quick snak making but to ruturn to of online of eve to ship of egg. at start thingking of level up have i but thin i wander where is ship of void it not here. to sheet of person online i go and find out that kill i was to be of problem as all of good lively was in ship and now cannot do of thing to dancers of exotic. to helping me please be as too problem of large of haeving now of wright!
And to finish, thank you for reading my sig
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Jeebus Cynoalt
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Posted - 2009.08.13 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Psilocin
Stop afk hauling.
This tbqfh. Use your brains people.
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Liitar
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Posted - 2009.08.13 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Magan Star
Would a combination of using secure containers and shield buffer tank deter them. Am I right in believing you cant scan the contents or open secure containers if they are password locked?
Not much point having an hauling alt if I cant afk haul. However that may be the case and was the reason for my post.
You can scan secure cans, and scoop them to a hauler even if they are passworded - so give up on that.
What you want are resists and buffer - fill your midslots with them, ideally, fill your lows too - no active mods though, rather pointless AFK. Try to avoid Expanded cargoholds and cargo optimization rigs - they weaken and slow your ship (this is particularly important when you start using deep space transports)
Finally, do the math - If it will take 1 bomber (anything but an epic tanked t1 hauler will), I will do it if you have 100m in your hold, some folks even less. If you are going to AFK haul anyway, why not make 3 or 4 trips? Get up to a transport ship as soon as you can, get into the heavy deep space transports (bustard, occator, mastadon, impel) - a heavily tanked deep space transport will take more bombers, meaning you can carry more without being a good target.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.13 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Magan Star
Is AFK hauling through empire something of the past. Just been the victim of "SILENT TERROR" who had a nice score at my expense. Cant blame him, who doesn't want to make easy isk.
However I cant see anything which one can do to protect themselves from afk hauling. Help anyone?
I once tried AFK suicide ganking. I didn't make a single ISK all night.
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silent terror
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Posted - 2009.08.13 14:45:00 -
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want me to dec him for you? honestly not war dec i mean dec!
im sure i know where the c*nt lives!
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silent terror
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Posted - 2009.08.13 14:46:00 -
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oh yeah sorry to hijack, but does anyone want to buy a siege module bpo me20? 480mil cant say fairer than that!
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.08.13 15:04:00 -
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as soon as they remove insurance for concord kills, you can go back to afk hauling... until then, an insured BS only needs about 25mil to justify ganking you
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Yakoff
Alcatraz Inc.
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2009.08.13 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Hoo Is
as soon as they remove insurance for concord kills, you can go back to afk hauling... until then, an insured BS only needs about 25mil to justify ganking you
I disagree. It is simple math regardless if insurance is involved.
If loot value > gank ship loss value, suicide will still occur.
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Phoebe Hallwell
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Posted - 2009.08.13 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Yakoff
Originally by: Hoo Is
as soon as they remove insurance for concord kills, you can go back to afk hauling... until then, an insured BS only needs about 25mil to justify ganking you
I disagree. It is simple math regardless if insurance is involved.
If loot value > gank ship loss value, suicide will still occur.
Very true. While the profit remains as inflated as my friends ego up there afk hauling does seem pointless.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.13 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Yakoff
Originally by: Hoo Is
as soon as they remove insurance for concord kills, you can go back to afk hauling... until then, an insured BS only needs about 25mil to justify ganking you
I disagree. It is simple math regardless if insurance is involved.
If loot value > gank ship loss value, suicide will still occur.
concept...... tooo.... difficult.... must.... rely... on... standard.... nonsensical.... insurance.... removal.... idea.....
You know that's the only reason I want them to remove insurance?
Just to change the record.
I want to hear what the mathematical cripples come up with next when they find out that insurance nerfs don't change a thing with respect to suicide ganks.
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WeaponsHot
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Posted - 2009.08.13 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Liitar
... get into the heavy deep space transports (bustard, occator, mastadon, impel) - a heavily tanked deep space transport will take more bombers, meaning you can carry more without being a good target.
mmmm last time I saw a occator under fire while the pilot was asleep near a gate... the foe was a ibis... isnt a joke and the ibis pilot was vkeen on getting the occator down.
Yeah T2 haulers are better than T1 in terms of resistence however it always depend of who is attacking and how.
btw of course occator survived after Ibis was conkordden LOL
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WeaponsHot
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Posted - 2009.08.13 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Tiny Tove
Originally by: Yakoff
Originally by: Hoo Is
as soon as they remove insurance for concord kills, you can go back to afk hauling... until then, an insured BS only needs about 25mil to justify ganking you
I disagree. It is simple math regardless if insurance is involved.
If loot value > gank ship loss value, suicide will still occur.
concept...... tooo.... difficult.... must.... rely... on... standard.... nonsensical.... insurance.... removal.... idea.....
You know that's the only reason I want them to remove insurance?
Just to change the record.
I want to hear what the mathematical cripples come up with next when they find out that insurance nerfs don't change a thing with respect to suicide ganks.
Lets see 
lets see BS + dummybomps fits = 150m
lvl4 mission running 2h = 200m (optional)
losing BS to a prey with good stuff on cargohold = priceless
insurance deal - NOT DONE! (who cares about pointless insurance)
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Belkadan
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Posted - 2009.08.13 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Originally by: WeaponsHot
unsecure sectors on empire is more safer these days coz most of rats concentrate only on highways to amarr/jita/doxie
ah! afk in small thin-cans is thing of past not even a BS is safer anymore
To not to be off to drag on oftin but too having two problem in game of ship of void on internet. To going from letterslab to kitchen to of quick snak making but to ruturn to of online of eve to ship of egg. at start thingking of level up have i but thin i wander where is ship of void it not here. to sheet of person online i go and find out that kill i was to be of problem as all of good lively was in ship and now cannot do of thing to dancers of exotic. to helping me please be as too problem of large of haeving now of wright!
wat?
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WeaponsHot
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Posted - 2009.08.13 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Belkadan
wat?
not sure... something about one void!
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Dire Radiant
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Posted - 2009.08.13 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tiny Tove
You know that's the only reason I want them to remove insurance?
Just to change the record.
I want to hear what the mathematical cripples come up with next when they find out that insurance nerfs don't change a thing with respect to suicide ganks.
Prolly the standard I made isk by losing that ship to you.
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sir gankalot
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Posted - 2009.08.13 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Re'taka
You can buy an orca and afk haul with it.
Nothing will make you 100% safe, but you can always be safer. Nice thing about the orca is they can't scan the ship's corp hanger, so its a nice safer place to tuck away that stuff worth a lot of isk, and put common junk into your cargo hold to throw them off.
This, it's epic. I've afk hauled stuff worth 700 million in corp hangar with the Orca. Completely unscanable. I'm not sure if the stuff from the corp hangar even drops when the orca is destroyed. You can get high EHP quite easy on an orca too. 
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Dawts
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.13 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: WeaponsHot
lvl4 mission running 2h = 200m (optional)
That can't be right... if that's right i've been doing it all wrong.
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Echo Gemini
Minmatar
Love My Darkness
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Posted - 2009.08.13 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: WeaponsHot
lvl4 mission running 2h = 200m (optional)
Where did u find that mission ... on ebay?
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.13 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Magan Star
Is AFK hauling
Quoting the fail.
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Misanth
Reaper Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.13 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Re'taka
You can get upwards of 10k effective hp in a t1 hauler, Why do you think they have all that CPU, its for hardeners and passive resist mods.
You can get in the range of 30 to 50k effective HP in a t2 hauler.
You can stop afk hauling.
You can buy an orca and afk haul with it.
Nothing will make you 100% safe, but you can always be safer. Nice thing about the orca is they can't scan the ship's corp hanger, so its a nice safer place to tuck away that stuff worth a lot of isk, and put common junk into your cargo hold to throw them off.
But as posted, the best thing to do is stop flying afk.
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I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
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