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Kumi Verdai	Posted - 2009.08.14 00:43:00 - [1] I'm looking for a ship that can handle C1-C3 holes solo. Requirements: Must be able to fit a probe launcher to find holes Must be able to fit at least 1 T2 salvager...a tractor would be nice, but not required Any race except Minnie since I can't use there stuff T3 hulls are a little outta my grasp atm, but if theres a fit I like, who knows And finally, nothing that will break the bank I am a man of simple means with not a WHOLE lot of isk, but if I have to sell ships or mods to get a fit, I will consider it. I leave this task in the hands of my fellow eve-ites.
K'uata Sayus	Posted - 2009.08.14 15:37:00 - [2] I'm thinkin' Drake. EVERYONE SEEMS NORMAL UNTIL YOU GET TO KNOW THEM.
hobo deluxe	Posted - 2009.08.14 16:10:00 - [3] Edited by: hobo deluxe on 14/08/2009 16:10:53 If t3 is an option , you might want to consider a legion. Ballistic Control System II Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Armor EM Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Cap Recharger II Large Capacitor Battery II 10MN Afterburner II Expanded Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I Salvager II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Nanobot Accelerator I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Legion Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tanks 720 dps while permarunning evry mod and doing about 370dps upto 20km. if u invest abit more and get amarr navy reps , you will tank 810dps wich is more then enough for a ship with the sig of a cruiser and good transversal. You wont need such a big tank for c1/c2 so ditch some of the EANM for more bcu's. It's pretty hard to find a ship that can fit into any wormhole that has 2 utility highs and doesnt rely on drones for dps. (drones are a pain in the ass to manage in wormholes..) also if you want even more tank , you should use the defense - nanobot injector subsystem. you will lose 1 of the utility highs tough.
Tulisin Dragonflame	Posted - 2009.08.15 12:16:00 - [4] Ishtar gives you the flexibility of not having to use hislots for weapons. You do have to micromanage your drones though, and bring a remote repper for them. No ammo requirements either, which is nice when you're living out of a can or something.
khazak mokl	Posted - 2009.08.15 17:28:00 - [5] Originally by: Kumi Verdai I'm looking for a ship that can handle C1-C3 holes solo. Requirements: Must be able to fit a probe launcher to find holes Must be able to fit at least 1 T2 salvager...a tractor would be nice, but not required Any race except Minnie since I can't use there stuff T3 hulls are a little outta my grasp atm, but if theres a fit I like, who knows And finally, nothing that will break the bank I am a man of simple means with not a WHOLE lot of isk, but if I have to sell ships or mods to get a fit, I will consider it. I leave this task in the hands of my fellow eve-ites. Ok I use a unconventional lol fit for one of my legion's as you will see covert sub adaptive argumentor sub emergent locust sub argumented capacitor sub chassis optermisation sub Gives 8high 4 med 4 lows set up highs 4 heavy T2 pulse 1 tractor beam 1 salvager 1 covert cloak 1 sisters expanded probe mids TS web painter cap rechanger II 10Nm afterburner Lows 2 TS HS 1 A type energized thermic membrane/faction EANM 1 A type med rep Rigs 1 thermic 1 EM 1 axu nano Can solo C1 and C2 solo and salvage as you go and I carry different subs in my cargo to refit for doing solo C3s I save alot of time and make alot of isk by completing all the high sec/low sec sigs I find that are not WH like DED plexs. this set up can solo 4/10 ded solo and i think could go higher if u reconfigured into the C3 solo set up. The C3 solo fit I use has been posted many times by its creator Riotrick and is a very good fit for C3's Everyone says its a mad fit but it works and I am sure there are other fits that can do the same but I like it as is cloaky and It has alot of different uses. As its amarr it uses crystals so no ammo except if u want to go faction or T2 which I also do. saves more space for salvage and loot. And as its not a drone boat there is no micro managing them as every1 knows sleepers love dronebait. All faction items can be downgraded to T2 and still have enough tank for the C2's you just have to approach at an angle on the bs while getting into orbit range. I use this fit on a daily basis as a dedicated scanner and it still brings in the bacon every day doing low class annoms when there is no corp op planned. Also if ur in K/space there is no worry about gankers are you warp cloaked. sometimes I fit a 1600 plate if i am docking in jita or somewhere like that just to be on the safe side. Also to boost its low dps a few cheap 5% damage implants can help
hobo deluxe	Posted - 2009.08.15 18:39:00 - [6] Edited by: hobo deluxe on 15/08/2009 18:39:56 Originally by: khazak mokl blablabla Problem with your setup is that its way too expensive for the op's taste ,i have the impression a t3 ship is already pushing it =p. if u have fun with that setup i dont see why you'd have to change it but 1 thing is bothering me.. why the painter?
Gavin DeVries	Posted - 2009.08.15 19:50:00 - [7] The painter's increase of the target signature radius also helps turrets hit fast targets. Bigger signature of target means tracking doesn't have to be as great to keep up. Since most T3 ships don't carry drones, that'll help deal with the frigates in the wormhole sites. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
khazak mokl	Posted - 2009.08.16 04:23:00 - [8] Originally by: Gavin DeVries The painter's increase of the target signature radius also helps turrets hit fast targets. Bigger signature of target means tracking doesn't have to be as great to keep up. Since most T3 ships don't carry drones, that'll help deal with the frigates in the wormhole sites. This Before the Nim nerf they were dropping on average at 7 - 10 per C1 annom and the frigate class sleeper seemed to drop the most.At its peak they were worth 8-10 mil each. It dont take a genius to work out how it was easy to make 100Mil an hour and upwards solo.
SwitchBl4d3 z3r0 Gravity	Posted - 2009.08.16 08:52:00 - [9] Originally by: Tulisin Dragonflame Ishtar gives you the flexibility of not having to use hislots for weapons. You do have to micromanage your drones though, and bring a remote repper for them. No ammo requirements either, which is nice when you're living out of a can or something. what he asid Originally by: Stavros BUNGLE IN JUNGLE? J tHX OMG YEAH CHICKEN WINGS K? LOLLER SKATESWIHT LUBE K? MIUOINKEYT!!!
Merkur Avar	Posted - 2009.08.16 09:49:00 - [10] Edited by: Merkur Avar on 16/08/2009 09:52:17 Edited by: Merkur Avar on 16/08/2009 09:50:03 Only ships able to decently do C3s solo will have to have dual rep that has more than 800ish sustained defenses in EFT. 900ish is better as some C3 stuff scrambles and neuts and you definately don't wanna have your tank fail in such a situation. So far the only thing that really works for that is a command ship with complex reppers (Eos for example) or a T3 as Khaz already said. So I'd advise you to stay clear of C3s if you don't want to spend that much isk. Slow/immobile droneboats will not work unless you know a few tricks which I'm not gonna reveal here. :p Sleepers eat drones if you're soloing. So Ishtar doesn't work either.

Rezor Preatorius Minmatar Clearspace Operations Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.08.16 12:16:00 - [11] Edited by: Rezor Preatorius on 16/08/2009 12:19:43 Originally by: hobo deluxe Edited by: hobo deluxe on 14/08/2009 16:10:53 If t3 is an option , you might want to consider a legion. Ballistic Control System II Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Armor EM Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Cap Recharger II Large Capacitor Battery II 10MN Afterburner II Expanded Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I Salvager II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Nanobot Accelerator I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Legion Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tanks 720 dps while permarunning evry mod and doing about 370dps upto 20km. if u invest abit more and get amarr navy reps , you will tank 810dps wich is more then enough for a ship with the sig of a cruiser and good transversal. You wont need such a big tank for c1/c2 so ditch some of the EANM for more bcu's. It's pretty hard to find a ship that can fit into any wormhole that has 2 utility highs and doesnt rely on drones for dps. (drones are a pain in the ass to manage in wormholes..) also if you want even more tank , you should use the defense - nanobot injector subsystem. you will lose 1 of the utility highs tough. What are you gonna do when you get webbed at 30km? Anyway, here is what i use: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/25568-Legion-Legion-C3-Sleepers.html works perfectly This can work too, and costs a bit less: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/22002-Zealot-Class-3-Sleepers.html But leagion is just great


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