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Aelius
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Posted - 2004.10.09 15:19:00 -
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I just thought about something rather strange and perhaps even "stupid".
I read a thread about corp members ganking other corp members and i thought. "what the hell?!, Eve is so complex that people are always finding new ways to exploit it. Can something be done about that?"
Then i camed up with an idea, that im still afraid to post it here, because it may sound really stupid.
An "Emergency" griefer/exploit button.
With the situation given above where two griefers join a corp to kill corp members, the victims would have a button to press to call emergency concord task force.
The abuse use of that EMERGENCY button would be a ban from the game at GM description.
Now you can start flaming me about my stupidity.
Selling Raven BPC ME20 3M at Yulai 1st Station |
Aelius
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Posted - 2004.10.09 15:19:00 -
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I just thought about something rather strange and perhaps even "stupid".
I read a thread about corp members ganking other corp members and i thought. "what the hell?!, Eve is so complex that people are always finding new ways to exploit it. Can something be done about that?"
Then i camed up with an idea, that im still afraid to post it here, because it may sound really stupid.
An "Emergency" griefer/exploit button.
With the situation given above where two griefers join a corp to kill corp members, the victims would have a button to press to call emergency concord task force.
The abuse use of that EMERGENCY button would be a ban from the game at GM description.
Now you can start flaming me about my stupidity.
Selling Raven BPC ME20 3M at Yulai 1st Station |
Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.10.09 15:20:00 -
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Yeah, that's pretty stupid.
Better solution would be to screen members better 
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.10.09 15:20:00 -
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Yeah, that's pretty stupid.
Better solution would be to screen members better
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2004.10.09 15:27:00 -
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Actually an emergency call button was something that was posted by myself (and probably many others before me) in the Idea Lab a long time ago. My thoughts were that if you were in trouble and wanted to call down some hell on someone to help out, you could smack a distress call button of some kind. This would only work in empire space, and the response would be only available from regional forces for which your standing was good for. The higher the standing, the larger and better equipped the responding force would be. Also if any of the responding force was shot at or destroyed, a standings hit would be applied to the fellow in question, again the size of the hit would be scaled to the standing you have with the regional forces.
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2004.10.09 15:27:00 -
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Actually an emergency call button was something that was posted by myself (and probably many others before me) in the Idea Lab a long time ago. My thoughts were that if you were in trouble and wanted to call down some hell on someone to help out, you could smack a distress call button of some kind. This would only work in empire space, and the response would be only available from regional forces for which your standing was good for. The higher the standing, the larger and better equipped the responding force would be. Also if any of the responding force was shot at or destroyed, a standings hit would be applied to the fellow in question, again the size of the hit would be scaled to the standing you have with the regional forces.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2004.10.09 15:32:00 -
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X¦ has a similar feature. Basically whenever you were attacked by something you could open a comm to a nearby station and ask for help. That station would then dispatch a taskforce to help you out.
But tbh I don't think there's a need for that in Eve.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2004.10.09 15:32:00 -
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X¦ has a similar feature. Basically whenever you were attacked by something you could open a comm to a nearby station and ask for help. That station would then dispatch a taskforce to help you out.
But tbh I don't think there's a need for that in Eve.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.10.09 15:37:00 -
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Sigh.
Like the sheeps need more protection by game mechanics. They need to get a clue.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.10.09 15:37:00 -
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Sigh.
Like the sheeps need more protection by game mechanics. They need to get a clue.
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Nekuva
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Posted - 2004.10.09 16:41:00 -
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You need to trust those you choose to mine with.... that's all the protection you need.
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Nekuva
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Posted - 2004.10.09 16:41:00 -
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You need to trust those you choose to mine with.... that's all the protection you need.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.10.09 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 09/10/2004 17:19:49
Corporate management skills allowing for a CEO or other high echelon member with these skills trained to hire NPC to dispose of their rogue members would be great, be it Concord or faction fleets.
It's a moneysink and also the respond time would be much better than that of hired PC hands as would their tracking capabilities I'd imagine.
Oh and  Idea Lab. 
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.10.09 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 09/10/2004 17:19:49
Corporate management skills allowing for a CEO or other high echelon member with these skills trained to hire NPC to dispose of their rogue members would be great, be it Concord or faction fleets.
It's a moneysink and also the respond time would be much better than that of hired PC hands as would their tracking capabilities I'd imagine.
Oh and Idea Lab.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2004.10.09 17:24:00 -
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It would be cool if you could call in favors from NPC factions, so like if you have a high standing with Concord or an Empire, or a Pirate faction and you fight someone with a paticularly low standing you could sacrifice some of your standing in order to get NPC ships for assistence, the higher your standing more and better ships come to your aid, but you lose a portion of your standing, because people don't like it if they have to save your butt all the time.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2004.10.09 17:24:00 -
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It would be cool if you could call in favors from NPC factions, so like if you have a high standing with Concord or an Empire, or a Pirate faction and you fight someone with a paticularly low standing you could sacrifice some of your standing in order to get NPC ships for assistence, the higher your standing more and better ships come to your aid, but you lose a portion of your standing, because people don't like it if they have to save your butt all the time.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.10.09 17:59:00 -
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Yeah thats a pretty stupid idea.
A better idea would be to;
a) Keep track of your members better,
b) Stop recruiting every person you come across in 5 seconds in hope of making more veldspar,
c) Understand that this is a multiplayer game and not everything that you dont like is a "SPLOIT!".
But if this idea is implemented, i'd like to suggest that the button be called the "I'm Stupid" button. Also the description should be modified to point out that this button is for incompetant CEO's who let greed get the better of them and scream for help from the dev team when the crap hits the fan.
The whole point of having a corporate structure is dealing with the problems that comes with it along with the advantages. You cant expect the GM team to run to your rescue when someone goes postal after you spend about 5 seconds to interview him and accept his application. Thats the difference between GOOD leaders and BAD leaders. If you got rescued by CCP every time you screwed up because of your OWN faulty judgement, there would be no difference between CEO's
Deal with the problems that make this game fun and MULTIPLAYER. Dont whine EVE into a mining sim (with a chat client ofcourse) where everyone HAS to mine (antisocial behavior will be punished with the "Emergency Button"!) and behave.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.10.09 17:59:00 -
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Yeah thats a pretty stupid idea.
A better idea would be to;
a) Keep track of your members better,
b) Stop recruiting every person you come across in 5 seconds in hope of making more veldspar,
c) Understand that this is a multiplayer game and not everything that you dont like is a "SPLOIT!".
But if this idea is implemented, i'd like to suggest that the button be called the "I'm Stupid" button. Also the description should be modified to point out that this button is for incompetant CEO's who let greed get the better of them and scream for help from the dev team when the crap hits the fan.
The whole point of having a corporate structure is dealing with the problems that comes with it along with the advantages. You cant expect the GM team to run to your rescue when someone goes postal after you spend about 5 seconds to interview him and accept his application. Thats the difference between GOOD leaders and BAD leaders. If you got rescued by CCP every time you screwed up because of your OWN faulty judgement, there would be no difference between CEO's
Deal with the problems that make this game fun and MULTIPLAYER. Dont whine EVE into a mining sim (with a chat client ofcourse) where everyone HAS to mine (antisocial behavior will be punished with the "Emergency Button"!) and behave.
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Nostradamu5
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Posted - 2004.10.09 18:22:00 -
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It's kinda cute that Viceroy came up with some better ideas, you won't be so lucky with me.
I have a few corp members who like to hunt BS down deep in 0.0, their main gripe is they're using torps alot but small ships sometime get in the way.
So here's my idea for tech 2 weapon why can't the torps have shields, or their own little mini combat drones to push the tripe out of the way while they sail torwards their main target?
Then theres the times when the target dies leaving live torps with no target, how about a special skill to allow scooping up a fired missle; with even at lvl 5 training there should still be a 40% chance of becoming your own victim.
This could add a whole new level of entertainment to those kill videos.
Stop griping about server instability and go buy an EVE mug!
Additionally with the purchase of each mug you will receive two(2) invisible Elves.
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Nostradamu5
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Posted - 2004.10.09 18:22:00 -
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It's kinda cute that Viceroy came up with some better ideas, you won't be so lucky with me.
I have a few corp members who like to hunt BS down deep in 0.0, their main gripe is they're using torps alot but small ships sometime get in the way.
So here's my idea for tech 2 weapon why can't the torps have shields, or their own little mini combat drones to push the tripe out of the way while they sail torwards their main target?
Then theres the times when the target dies leaving live torps with no target, how about a special skill to allow scooping up a fired missle; with even at lvl 5 training there should still be a 40% chance of becoming your own victim.
This could add a whole new level of entertainment to those kill videos.
Stop griping about server instability and go buy an EVE mug!
Additionally with the purchase of each mug you will receive two(2) invisible Elves.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.10.09 19:31:00 -
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Sorry Viceroy but not everyones idea of fun is being interrogated or interrogating people, they then apply to and join another less paranoid outfit interested in mentioned fun and games.
Just because you have a few sleepers around waiting for the big payday doesn't mean the corporate tools can't be improved before you cash out.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.10.09 19:31:00 -
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Sorry Viceroy but not everyones idea of fun is being interrogated or interrogating people, they then apply to and join another less paranoid outfit interested in mentioned fun and games.
Just because you have a few sleepers around waiting for the big payday doesn't mean the corporate tools can't be improved before you cash out.
Convert Stations
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Amarissy
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Posted - 2004.10.09 20:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Viceroy
Yeah thats a pretty stupid idea.
A better idea would be to;
a) Keep track of your members better,
b) Stop recruiting every person you come across in 5 seconds in hope of making more veldspar,
c) Understand that this is a multiplayer game and not everything that you dont like is a "SPLOIT!".
But if this idea is implemented, i'd like to suggest that the button be called the "I'm Stupid" button. Also the description should be modified to point out that this button is for incompetant CEO's who let greed get the better of them and scream for help from the dev team when the crap hits the fan.
The whole point of having a corporate structure is dealing with the problems that comes with it along with the advantages. You cant expect the GM team to run to your rescue when someone goes postal after you spend about 5 seconds to interview him and accept his application. Thats the difference between GOOD leaders and BAD leaders. If you got rescued by CCP every time you screwed up because of your OWN faulty judgement, there would be no difference between CEO's
Deal with the problems that make this game fun and MULTIPLAYER. Dont whine EVE into a mining sim (with a chat client ofcourse) where everyone HAS to mine (antisocial behavior will be punished with the "Emergency Button"!) and behave.
We know Viceroy u were the king of this tactic. Just take time to consult ur employement list.
I can even admit, i've been a noob at a time and recruited you, that was the Vic Fest ...
I didn't click the "I'm stupid" button, but "I'm a noob" button instead ... :D
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Amarissy
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Posted - 2004.10.09 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy
Yeah thats a pretty stupid idea.
A better idea would be to;
a) Keep track of your members better,
b) Stop recruiting every person you come across in 5 seconds in hope of making more veldspar,
c) Understand that this is a multiplayer game and not everything that you dont like is a "SPLOIT!".
But if this idea is implemented, i'd like to suggest that the button be called the "I'm Stupid" button. Also the description should be modified to point out that this button is for incompetant CEO's who let greed get the better of them and scream for help from the dev team when the crap hits the fan.
The whole point of having a corporate structure is dealing with the problems that comes with it along with the advantages. You cant expect the GM team to run to your rescue when someone goes postal after you spend about 5 seconds to interview him and accept his application. Thats the difference between GOOD leaders and BAD leaders. If you got rescued by CCP every time you screwed up because of your OWN faulty judgement, there would be no difference between CEO's
Deal with the problems that make this game fun and MULTIPLAYER. Dont whine EVE into a mining sim (with a chat client ofcourse) where everyone HAS to mine (antisocial behavior will be punished with the "Emergency Button"!) and behave.
We know Viceroy u were the king of this tactic. Just take time to consult ur employement list.
I can even admit, i've been a noob at a time and recruited you, that was the Vic Fest ...
I didn't click the "I'm stupid" button, but "I'm a noob" button instead ... :D
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Unity, Power and Knowledge.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.10.09 21:11:00 -
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Quote:
Sorry Viceroy but not everyones idea of fun is being interrogated or interrogating people, they then apply to and join another less paranoid outfit interested in mentioned fun and games.
Just because you have a few sleepers around waiting for the big payday doesn't mean the corporate tools can't be improved before you cash out.
A lot of people dont like to be shot at either, does that mean we should remove weapons?
Just because a lot of people dont like to be surprised, should we just remove all factors of surprise from the game?
Corporate tools are being improved, more hangars, more wallets, better security options etc. Adding a feature to summon a GM when things get bad isnt an "improvement".
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We know Viceroy u were the king of this tactic. Just take time to consult ur employement list.
I can even admit, i've been a noob at a time and recruited you, that was the Vic Fest ...
I didn't click the "I'm stupid" button, but "I'm a noob" button instead ... :D
Yes, my corporate homocide run was great fun. It was amazing to see how many 30+ people corps recruited a 3.5mil bounty player in a known pirate corp (Space Invaders at that time) just because i promised to mine 4+ hours a day for the corp.
Making a mistake doesnt mean you're stupid, making a mistake and then whining to "the powers that be" to fix it is stupid.
I'm sure you conduct recruitment in a much more detailed manner now ;)
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.10.09 21:11:00 -
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Quote:
Sorry Viceroy but not everyones idea of fun is being interrogated or interrogating people, they then apply to and join another less paranoid outfit interested in mentioned fun and games.
Just because you have a few sleepers around waiting for the big payday doesn't mean the corporate tools can't be improved before you cash out.
A lot of people dont like to be shot at either, does that mean we should remove weapons?
Just because a lot of people dont like to be surprised, should we just remove all factors of surprise from the game?
Corporate tools are being improved, more hangars, more wallets, better security options etc. Adding a feature to summon a GM when things get bad isnt an "improvement".
Quote:
We know Viceroy u were the king of this tactic. Just take time to consult ur employement list.
I can even admit, i've been a noob at a time and recruited you, that was the Vic Fest ...
I didn't click the "I'm stupid" button, but "I'm a noob" button instead ... :D
Yes, my corporate homocide run was great fun. It was amazing to see how many 30+ people corps recruited a 3.5mil bounty player in a known pirate corp (Space Invaders at that time) just because i promised to mine 4+ hours a day for the corp.
Making a mistake doesnt mean you're stupid, making a mistake and then whining to "the powers that be" to fix it is stupid.
I'm sure you conduct recruitment in a much more detailed manner now ;)
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.10.09 21:26:00 -
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I was under the impression that the abuse of the calling upon NPC forces was the thing brought to GM attention, as it should. Involving a GM wasn't the purpose of having an emergency cleaning patrol summoning option.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.10.09 21:26:00 -
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I was under the impression that the abuse of the calling upon NPC forces was the thing brought to GM attention, as it should. Involving a GM wasn't the purpose of having an emergency cleaning patrol summoning option.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2004.10.09 23:27:00 -
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RollinDutchMasters' Third Law of MMORPGs:
Any suggustion which gives already-overworked GMs a whole new set of problems and responsibilities should be shot in the head and buried in an unmarked grave.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2004.10.09 23:27:00 -
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RollinDutchMasters' Third Law of MMORPGs:
Any suggustion which gives already-overworked GMs a whole new set of problems and responsibilities should be shot in the head and buried in an unmarked grave.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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