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Dirty Wizard
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Posted - 2009.08.15 06:12:00 -
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Seriously, the EvE forums are filling up with keylogger spam faster than the community can report them. Many of them have been up for almost the entire day. The same spammers have gone so long unchecked that they've respammed the forums multiple times.
CCP, you need to do something about this escalating problem and you need to do it now.
Simply deleting these threads is not effective nor is it slowing them down.
Adding an external link warning is not effective either since the keyloggers are now disguising these links in new ways. (i.e. comics, UI addons, guides, battleclinic loadouts, EvE articles, so on and so forth)
A forum mechanic overhaul is long overdue anyways. Now that it's under attack, now is the best time to do it.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.15 06:15:00 -
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Any suggestions?
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[03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA
[03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
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VonCruix
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Posted - 2009.08.15 06:23:00 -
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Click the "report" option on the uppper right of the post.
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Wathar
Minmatar
Violet Vortex
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.08.15 06:27:00 -
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read ur post, thousand probs came in mind - wanna thank u first for giving me the opportunity to think and allow me pls now to point something out - i take this as an attack to a free internet community and i call the free tech spirits to strike back -
u gyus know who u are u got the knowledge and the guts- protect the innocents and pod the asshats -
Silver Dust drives our engines o7
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Kolatha
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Posted - 2009.08.15 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Any suggestions?
Hmm, ideas on how to combat the problem.
Simplest way would be a ranking system (Like Digg and other similar sites). Keylogger, and other garbage posts, would disappear pretty quickly then. But while it is a simple idea its implementation can be troublesome, particularly since the game is rife with lowlife ****s who would happily use their whole corp to abuse the system.
Another, extremely complex and difficult to automate, way would be to test each and every posted URL in a virtual machine. If the URL dings on a virus or other type of malware the post never makes it to the board.
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Dirty Wizard
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Posted - 2009.08.15 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Any suggestions?
Indeed, but they're not popular and are a bit of an inconvenience.
1) Bring back captcha images and require them for every single thread/post/reply on these forums.
2) Bring in thread posting/creation cumulative time delay.
3) Restrict all new characters from posting on the forums for 14 days. Exception for new characters posting in EVE New Citizens Q&A, EVE General Discussion, Issues, Workarounds & Localization, Macintosh, and Linux.
4) Any message a player says ingame that contains 80% similarity of a message that same player said in chat within X amount of time is automatically censored.
Will these measures stop the spam? Admittedly no, but it will drastically cut down their frequency and help to alleviate the workload on ingame GMs and forum moderators.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.15 06:58:00 -
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Seeing as the spammers are humans and not bots all those measures are useless. At most it will add a few additional seconds between posts and annoy the crap out of all the legit posters.
Any other suggestions?
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[03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA
[03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
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Treelox
Amarr
Evolution
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Posted - 2009.08.15 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Any suggestions?
Get the ISD mods back on board. Their numbers would be a great resource boost in the battle agaisnt this constant spam.
The CCP employed mods only number 4, I think, and easily get swamped by all this keylogger spam. Reactivating some of the old ISD mods could easily help tripple that number, and it would be a good start.
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Valator Uel
Caldari
N'Th'Rack Squadron
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.15 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dirty Wizard
Originally by: Zeba
Any suggestions?
Indeed, but they're not popular and are a bit of an inconvenience.
1) Bring back captcha images and require them for every single thread/post/reply on these forums.
2) Bring in thread posting/creation cumulative time delay.
3) Restrict all new characters from posting on the forums for 14 days. Exception for new characters posting in EVE New Citizens Q&A, EVE General Discussion, Issues, Workarounds & Localization, Macintosh, and Linux.
4) Any message a player says ingame that contains 80% similarity of a message that same player said in chat within X amount of time is automatically censored.
Will these measures stop the spam? Admittedly no, but it will drastically cut down their frequency and help to alleviate the workload on ingame GMs and forum moderators.
1) NO! Smappers are not bots, they are rl people posting.
2) Yes, normally nobody ever needs to post in every forum section multiple time. If they can track someone posting in short intervals they could take preliminary action (1 hour posting ban pending further investigation)
3) Not a definite solution, they already wait 3 days.
4) Could be a solution by keeping in memory the two previous posts and seeing if they match. It is however easily circumnavigated.
A possible temporary solution is to have reported posts totaly censored until a GM reviews the post (ie all contents removed). Abusers of the system get warned then banned. That way we as the community can help by reporting all these posts and thereby removing the content. It gives GMs/ISD time to act.
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Aya > Hostile tcf gang coming to h-pa
Deva Blackfire > ships?
Ralarina > Yes, in ships
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F'nog
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Slightly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.15 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dirty Wizard
3) Restrict all new characters from posting on the forums for 14 days. Exception for new characters posting in EVE New Citizens Q&A, EVE General Discussion, Issues, Workarounds & Localization, Macintosh, and Linux.
Oh, you mean everything except for their favorite and most popular posting locations. That'll do a lot of good.
My suggestion is to use a useful capcha, not that crap one they tried before. Which isn't even a real answer, since it's a person, not a bot that's doing it.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba
Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero!  /me bows
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
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Posted - 2009.08.15 08:25:00 -
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Just restrict all new Accounts for 14 Days to the Crime and Punishment and CAOD Forums. In all other Forums they can only read but not Post. Multiple Problems solved.
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Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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robbyx
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Posted - 2009.08.15 08:27:00 -
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Simple solutions 101....separate password for forums and game....then give modest mod powers to trusted gamers and forum users, just enough power to edit posts.
A couple of different "part time mods" from different time zones and hey presto, clean/cleaner forums.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
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Posted - 2009.08.15 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: Zeba
Any suggestions?
Get the ISD mods back on board. Their numbers would be a great resource boost in the battle agaisnt this constant spam.
The CCP employed mods only number 4, I think, and easily get swamped by all this keylogger spam. Reactivating some of the old ISD mods could easily help tripple that number, and it would be a good start.
This is probably the only economical way to provide accurate 24/7 coverage.
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Vezarus
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Posted - 2009.08.15 08:49:00 -
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Edited by: Vezarus on 15/08/2009 08:50:53
ccp apparently does not takes this problem seriously, it's the same on the chat channel in eve online, insults of all kinds, and of course no modTrator.is time to do the housework.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Dark Ascendancy
The Council.
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Posted - 2009.08.15 09:05:00 -
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Forums need more pron tbfh
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.08.15 09:11:00 -
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There's a keylogger thread in the New Player forum that's been ther for 12 hours now =/
CCP?
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2009.08.15 09:27:00 -
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Edited by: Arec Bardwin on 15/08/2009 09:28:08
Perhaps appointing some voluntary forum moderators among the regular forum *****s would be a good idea? CCP clearly has no moderators on duty during weekends.
never mind, already suggested above.
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Full Impact
New Eden Population Control
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Posted - 2009.08.15 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Valator Uel
Edited by: Valator Uel on 15/08/2009 07:36:14
A possible temporary solution is to have reported posts totaly censored until a GM reviews the post (ie all contents removed). Abusers of the system get warned then banned. That way we as the community can help by reporting all these posts and thereby removing the content. It gives GMs/ISD time to act.
This tbh
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Gabriel Darkefyre
Minmatar
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.15 09:47:00 -
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Edited by: Gabriel Darkefyre on 15/08/2009 09:49:02
Well, how about, as soon as a given post accumulates a set amount of unique users reporting it, the post gets automatically blanked with a message posted along the lines of:-
"Post Reported for Inappropriate Content"
Then, the Mods can check the post at their leisure, reinstating it if it's a legitimate post and marking it as CCP Cleared, or just deleting it if it's the usual keylogger spam.
Once a post is CCP Cleared, it can still be reported for other reasons, however it won't be automatically blanked by the system, it'll need a human decision as to whether it warrents further cleanup.
Obviously, a record of users just spamming legitimate posts with the report button would need to be kept to avoid abuse. Once a certain amount of legitimate posts are reported by a single user, they should lose the ability to report posts either temporarily, or permanently depending on the severity of the abuse.
Edit: D'Oh, missed that this had already been suggested above.
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Brother Dei
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Posted - 2009.08.15 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Full Impact
Originally by: Valator Uel
Edited by: Valator Uel on 15/08/2009 07:36:14
A possible temporary solution is to have reported posts totaly censored until a GM reviews the post (ie all contents removed). Abusers of the system get warned then banned. That way we as the community can help by reporting all these posts and thereby removing the content. It gives GMs/ISD time to act.
This tbh
This! .... getting tired of reporting posts with no apparent results 
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Mr Reason
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Posted - 2009.08.15 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Darkefyre
Edited by: Gabriel Darkefyre on 15/08/2009 09:49:02
Well, how about, as soon as a given post accumulates a set amount of unique users reporting it, the post gets automatically blanked with a message posted along the lines of:-
"Post Reported for Inappropriate Content"
Then, the Mods can check the post at their leisure, reinstating it if it's a legitimate post and marking it as CCP Cleared, or just deleting it if it's the usual keylogger spam.
Once a post is CCP Cleared, it can still be reported for other reasons, however it won't be automatically blanked by the system, it'll need a human decision as to whether it warrents further cleanup.
Obviously, a record of users just spamming legitimate posts with the report button would need to be kept to avoid abuse. Once a certain amount of legitimate posts are reported by a single user, they should lose the ability to report posts either temporarily, or permanently depending on the severity of the abuse.
Edit: D'Oh, missed that this had already been suggested above.
Yes, that will not at all be abused...
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.15 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: VonCruix
Click the "report" option on the uppper right of the post.
And please do not discuss moderation. Thread Locked.
Zymurgist
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