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MIkhail Illiad
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2012.05.29 19:49:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:1.you're just trolling
2.everyone knows the game has mouse and keyboard support. so ... yeah, fail.
edit:wireless mouse and keyboard idiot
no I'm not just trolling,
I shouldn't be forced to play with one or the other, both should be a viable option and for me they are not, hence the thread. Sitting on a couch with a mouse and keyboard is just not comfortable, and the play station pad is beyond useless for me, I'd use it as a doorstop but we have heavy doors...
There once was an interesting signature here... It has long since disapeared.-á |
Snow Burst
RED.OverLord
156
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Posted - 2012.05.29 20:15:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:1.you're just trolling
2.everyone knows the game has mouse and keyboard support. so ... yeah, fail.
edit:wireless mouse and keyboard idiot
3.the ps3 controler is the same as ps1, have you been living under a rock?
4.3rd party controllers
actually ps1 original controller had no analogue sticks they made a updated version later on
There Is A 90% Chance All Of What You Just Read Is Wrong, Inaccurate Or Just Me Being Controversial In Some Way.-áOr By Some Chance It's Completely Right In Every Way... At Least To Me :3 |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
239
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Posted - 2012.05.30 01:15:00 -
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RavenTesio wrote:Astenion wrote:It's still better than the 360 controller. I love it, actually. It's very comfortable to me. You've gotta have tiny hands mate... the PS controller was comfortable to me when it first appeared but I'm not a teenager anymore, gone through growth spurts and whatnot :-p Now find it just a little too small for my hands, same with the SNES and NES controllers. Xbox 360 one just fits nice an comfortably in my hands - mind even if the DualShock 3 was a little more ergonomic, the fact is it just feels too light, cheap and nasty; even if you just compare it to the DualShock 2 controller. Honestly everytime my brother wants to play his old PS games he always prefers to get out the PS2 Slimline he has instead of using the PlayStation 3. Mind guess this is all a case of personal preference.
Would you believe me if I told you my hands were the same size they were ~20 years ago?
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MotherMoon
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
759
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Posted - 2012.05.30 05:59:00 -
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MIkhail Illiad wrote:MotherMoon wrote:1.you're just trolling
2.everyone knows the game has mouse and keyboard support. so ... yeah, fail.
edit:wireless mouse and keyboard idiot no I'm not just trolling, I shouldn't be forced to play with one or the other, both should be a viable option and for me they are not, hence the thread. Sitting on a couch with a mouse and keyboard is just not comfortable, and the play station pad is beyond useless for me, I'd use it as a doorstop but we have heavy doors...
why did you ignore my links? you can buy a 360 controller for the ps3. or a converter for normal 360 controllers.
Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Snow Burst
RED.OverLord
161
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:13:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:MIkhail Illiad wrote:MotherMoon wrote:1.you're just trolling
2.everyone knows the game has mouse and keyboard support. so ... yeah, fail.
edit:wireless mouse and keyboard idiot no I'm not just trolling, I shouldn't be forced to play with one or the other, both should be a viable option and for me they are not, hence the thread. Sitting on a couch with a mouse and keyboard is just not comfortable, and the play station pad is beyond useless for me, I'd use it as a doorstop but we have heavy doors... why did you ignore my links? you can buy a 360 controller for the ps3. or a converter for normal 360 controllers.
it isnt worth it cuz itd prob be laggy unuseable n such n the one isnt even layed out like a 360 controller its just a ps3 one with the bits rearanged
There Is A 90% Chance All Of What You Just Read Is Wrong, Inaccurate Or Just Me Being Controversial In Some Way.-áOr By Some Chance It's Completely Right In Every Way... At Least To Me :3 |
MidnightWyvern
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
8
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Posted - 2012.05.30 17:21:00 -
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So, you do all realize that the game supports Keyboard/Mouse, right? And they've already said they're working on balancing the Move with the other control methods, though whether that's good or not is debatable. Hell I'll probably try all three and pick whichever works best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eaUaJUhTZfw#t=148s
An excellent example of why pod killmails are the best feature to be implemented in EVE Online since warping at zero. |
Pyx Jasta
104th Ranger Mobile Combat Regiment
Insane Asylum
49
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:21:00 -
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I have this one. Not quite as nice as the 360 controller, but miles better than the stock PS3 one, from the perspective of one who much prefers the 360 controller over the PS3s
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Snow Burst
RED.OverLord
172
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:40:00 -
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MidnightWyvern wrote:So, you do all realize that the game supports Keyboard/Mouse, right? And they've already said they're working on balancing the Move with the other control methods, though whether that's good or not is debatable. Hell I'll probably try all three and pick whichever works best.
most people have consoles around a tv and a mouse/keyboard wire is only long enough for sitting on the floor with it even in small living rooms. and wireless is a no go cuz 1) dnt think ps3 can use wireless and 2) wireless is so rubbish most eve players wud want dust on pc instead
There Is A 90% Chance All Of What You Just Read Is Wrong, Inaccurate Or Just Me Being Controversial In Some Way.-áOr By Some Chance It's Completely Right In Every Way... At Least To Me :3 |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
627
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Posted - 2012.05.30 20:25:00 -
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Astenion wrote:It's still better than the 360 controller. I love it, actually. It's very comfortable to me.
this is a joke right?
the 360 controller is considered the best controller out there, its biggest flaw is he d-pad but that isn't used in most games anyway. |
Large Marg
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.05.31 03:31:00 -
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[/quote]
dualshock 3 is only a few years old... noob[/quote]
The OP was talking about the size of the controller.
I would like to have a bigger controller as well. If you have small hands the PS3 is nice, but big hands it gets uncomfortable real fast. |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
776
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:58:00 -
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Snow Burst wrote:MotherMoon wrote:MIkhail Illiad wrote:MotherMoon wrote:1.you're just trolling
2.everyone knows the game has mouse and keyboard support. so ... yeah, fail.
edit:wireless mouse and keyboard idiot no I'm not just trolling, I shouldn't be forced to play with one or the other, both should be a viable option and for me they are not, hence the thread. Sitting on a couch with a mouse and keyboard is just not comfortable, and the play station pad is beyond useless for me, I'd use it as a doorstop but we have heavy doors... why did you ignore my links? you can buy a 360 controller for the ps3. or a converter for normal 360 controllers. it isnt worth it cuz itd prob be laggy unuseable n such n the one isnt even layed out like a 360 controller its just a ps3 one with the bits rearanged
how is it laggy? It's real, you can use one. where chance come into this?
and it's the same point. there are 100's of controllers for the ps3, so saying there is no way for him to play dust doesn't make sense.
Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
776
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Posted - 2012.05.31 21:03:00 -
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Snow Burst wrote:MidnightWyvern wrote:So, you do all realize that the game supports Keyboard/Mouse, right? And they've already said they're working on balancing the Move with the other control methods, though whether that's good or not is debatable. Hell I'll probably try all three and pick whichever works best. most people have consoles around a tv and a mouse/keyboard wire is only long enough for sitting on the floor with it even in small living rooms. and wireless is a no go cuz 1) dnt think ps3 can use wireless and 2) wireless is so rubbish most eve players wud want dust on pc instead
again, you're acting like there isn't wireless keyboards for the ps3. When will you get tired of talking out your ass? I don't care what you "think" hardware does. I wuld not subscribe to your newsletter
"in todays news the WiiU came out, it's most likely not as powerful as a ps3, i don't know if that's true, but based on the dream I had last night, that seems like it's probably accurate."
-snow burst
Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
quickshot89
No trouble in the midst
STR8NGE BREW
12
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Posted - 2012.06.02 20:43:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:Astenion wrote:It's still better than the 360 controller. I love it, actually. It's very comfortable to me. this is a joke right? the 360 controller is considered the best controller out there, its biggest flaw is he d-pad but that isn't used in most games anyway.
The d-pad got altered a few years ago, its much better than it was when the 360 first launched
Im hoping there is a way to use a wired windows gamepad (basically the wired 360 one) on the ps3 |
Nex Killer
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.02 22:03:00 -
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I hate the PS3 controller too but love the 360 controller. You can buy some controllers for the PS3 that feel like the 360's. |
Shepard Book
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.06.03 15:47:00 -
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Nomistrav wrote:MIkhail Illiad wrote:So I had to make a deal with my friend to borrow his Ps3 over the weekend to get some testing done, this is when I discovered Sony's Dual Shock controller. Has this thing been made as a cruel joke by some angry nerd at Sony who hates all FPS games? I waited for a long time for this game only to discover that Dust 514 is completely unplayable with the 15 year old totally outdated PlayStation controller. So -1 Beta Tester and probably player, as I will not be spending money on anything that involve's that totally useless piece of crap Sony has the audacity to call a "controller". Sooooo use the keyboard + mouse combo. Simple.
My thoughts exactly. It has been a long time since I played a console and that will be something I get for this game.
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Nawt Ovarpwiced
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.06.04 00:06:00 -
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Meanwhile, im playing with keyboard and mouse, laughing at all the people that are doing the entire
"OMFG THIS CONTROLLER HOW DO I EVEN OH GOD IM DEAD AGAIN"
you know, where your trying to aim at someone and you end up firing in a circle around them and only hitting them with 1 bullet while they put a full clip into you and you die?
Yeah, its aggrivating.
Go get an Eagle Eye because the whole "SOON tm" thing with keyboard and mouse could be years before implementation.
http://www.penguinunited.com/
Or you could get the Xim version, which came out very recently:
http://store.xim3.com/XIM3_p_12.html
Its so much more fun to play when you can actualy aim! |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness
Psychotic Tendencies.
1040
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Posted - 2012.06.04 05:50:00 -
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Nawt Ovarpwiced wrote:Meanwhile, im playing with keyboard and mouse, laughing at all the people that are doing the entire "OMFG THIS CONTROLLER HOW DO I EVEN OH GOD IM DEAD AGAIN" you know, where your trying to aim at someone and you end up firing in a circle around them and only hitting them with 1 bullet while they put a full clip into you and you die? Yeah, its aggrivating. Go get an Eagle Eye because the whole "SOON tm" thing with keyboard and mouse could be years before implementation. http://www.penguinunited.com/Or you could get the Xim version, which came out very recently: http://store.xim3.com/XIM3_p_12.htmlIts so much more fun to play when you can actualy aim!
So your the guy that was going on about being able to use a keyboard and mouse. Funny part is you were getting smoked two games in a row. You were doing much better, even though pretty terrible, with the controller.
Just beause you can't aim with a controller does not mean no one else can. Seriously what an asinine thing to say.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Nawt Ovarpwiced
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.06.04 06:33:00 -
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Nope! Wasnt me sorry!
I only got my beta invite yesturday.
And i dont have a microphone/headset thing for the PS3.
I was merely referring to the fact:
Alot of the people whom are getting invites are eve players.
Myself, i bought the PS3 purely for Dust. And have no prior experience to using the gamepad.
Most others prefer to play FPS on the PC, with mouse and keyboard, and probably play non-fps games on the PS3 in the meantime.
So, based on those facts, and from what ive seen in my single day of Dusting (including myself before getting the eagle eye setup) are alot of people dancing around eachother, emptying all their ammo out but not killing the other player because they are not used to/cannot use the gamepad, and thus cant aim for crap.
If you were to give these particular players a keyboard and mouse tho... (either by native implimentation or a device such as the eagle eye) their situation with aiming would change drematically.
And i know damn well people can aim just fine with a controller, but it takes alot of time to learn and perfect. Again, refer to eve players being the
p.s i failed spelling and math, i know. |
Zoidberg Gahiji
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2012.06.04 14:47:00 -
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I have two Xbox 360 and two PS3 controllers. The 360 controller is light years behind the PS3 ones imo.
The bumper buttons feel and sound cheap, are tiny and have a weird angle to reach. The trigger buttons feel ok but as soon as you push them down fully they submerge into the controller case and the hard plastic edges cut into your index fingers. The asymmetric position of the analog sticks feels arbitrary and unnatural, the d-pad is just crap. It has too much loose room, needs to much pressure to press and sometimes it is wedged and does not recognize inputs. There are guides out there about how to file off parts of the plastic beneath the d-pad to get rid off that. Ever tried to play Street Fighter with it? Almost impossible to do well. The back shape of the controller feels nice and comfortable at first, but after about an hour of holding it it starts to hurt in the hands. The positioning of the d-pad and xyab buttons in relation to the analog sticks is bad and makes me constantly miss buttons. The concave shape of the sticks feels like sliding on the edge of a plate. And last but not least the wireless version looks clunky.
Some of the things I don't like about the 360 controller are a matter of personal taste of course, like the concave vs convex shape of the analog sticks, but things like the d-pad, back shape and the two shoulder trigger buttons are real screw ups.
The only bad thing about the PS3 controller is that there are no official Windows drivers and that you have to overcome two minor resistances when pushing the L3/R3 buttons before it registers. But the XBox 360 controller does the latter too...  |
TigerXtrm
Cadre Assault Force
Initiative Mercenaries
25
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Posted - 2012.06.04 18:05:00 -
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I had the same concern. The PS3 controller is absolutely horrid in every logical way (bold sticks? Really? So your fingers slide off more easily?).
Solution?
http://www.gamingzap.com/speedlink-xeox-xbox-360-controller-for-ps3.html |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness
Psychotic Tendencies.
1041
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:05:00 -
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Jesus are you mutants? I currently play with all three console controllers and the keyboard + mouse. All the while not having issues.
Also your so called 'facts' are nothing but assumptions based on your bias opinion.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
xxSt331C1aWxx
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
0
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Posted - 2012.06.05 17:58:00 -
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Nothing wrong with the PS3 controller. The symmetric analog sticks is awesome. I actually like the lightness of it versus the 360 controller, which feels like a brick.
The d-pad is way better as are the face buttons. |
Jim Luc
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
29
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:18:00 -
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Astenion wrote:It's still better than the 360 controller. I love it, actually. It's very comfortable to me.
360 controller is way better, especially those of us with larger-than-average hands. At least the 360 controller actually uses triggers to fire, rather than bumpers....
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TheAmazingFlyingPig
New Edens United Nation
Gecko Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.06.06 00:12:00 -
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It's obvious what the solution is here.
Helmet.
The helmet detects what you want to do and does it with an unexplainable negative latency. The helmet reacts before you can think of it. This way, there's no more finger cramps, negative K/D's blamed on "third world ISP's" (since the helmet doesn't use your router, it links directly to CCP's servers), and you get your hands free to strike at your children when they complain that they're "hungry" or "want a turn" |
Hega Modo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.06.06 04:06:00 -
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Jim Luc wrote:Astenion wrote:It's still better than the 360 controller. I love it, actually. It's very comfortable to me. 360 controller is way better, especially those of us with larger-than-average hands. At least the 360 controller actually uses triggers to fire, rather than bumpers....
Indeed! |
Dak Dallocort
EVE University
Ivy League
14
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Posted - 2012.06.20 05:40:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Make Dust compatible with PS Move! Everyone's happy 
It is Move compatible, and if it's done anywhere near as well as it was for Killzone 3, it'll be generating a lot of tears from both controller and KB/M users. |
Jack Paladin
Solar Storm
Intrepid Crossing
164
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Posted - 2012.06.20 09:31:00 -
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Being a non PS3 owner I was very interested in this thread to see what your experiences were with the controller and an FPS. I have been a long time PC Gamer so I am very used to using a mouse+keyboard for FPS games.
It is clear to me that everyone has their own preference, there is no clear winner and is entirely down to the gamer.
Can any link to more info about using a mouse+keyboard on the PS3 and comment on any draw backs in they have experienced using it in Dust, if any? |
highonpop
Void.Tech
Fatal Ascension
113
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Posted - 2012.06.20 13:50:00 -
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OP, you serious?
The playstation controller is awesome. much better than the xbox controller that is all mixed up. Who doesnt like a little vibration in the hands to tell you you're being shot?
Read First Dev Post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=88362&find=unread
My post was probably full of typos. I don;t care... |
Whar Target
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.06.25 21:49:00 -
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MIkhail Illiad wrote: I waited for a long time for this game only to discover that Dust 514 is completely unplayable with the 15 year old totally outdated PlayStation controller. So -1 Beta Tester and probably player, as I will not be spending money on anything that involve's that totally useless piece of crap Sony has the audacity to call a "controller".
1)The game is free to download, free to play, so I'm sure they'll miss the money you wouldn't have spent anyway.
2)The controller is fine, even with larger hands, unless you have fat fingers...in which case kb/m probably won't be too good for you either.
3)Refer back to 1+2. |
Venix
An Eye For An Eye
AN EYE F0R AN EYE
0
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Posted - 2012.06.26 18:09:00 -
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xBox Controller > PS3 Controller
That should sum it up nicely. The damn PS3 controller feels like it will break in your hands. The xBox is nice and solid. |
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