EVE Search - Why the love of HACs?

All Channels

Ships and Modules

Why the love of HACs?

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] 2 3 :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Aluin Chaput Caldari Mort's Navy	Posted - 2009.08.17 03:11:00 - [1] I have never really understood why HACs are held in such high re guard by 0.0 alliances. decent dps/faster but no insurance. Sounds like a fancy suicide kit. Please enlighten me.
Bugszor Caldari PodPal	Posted - 2009.08.17 03:13:00 - [2] if you actually live in 0.0.. isk should never be a problem for you. if it is. yer doing something terribly wrong. so for your answer. the extra dps/speed is easily paid by the pilots. so why not. ----------------------------------- Originally by: Nex Angelus Perhaps it was a Bugszor
Aluin Chaput Caldari Mort's Navy	Posted - 2009.08.17 03:14:00 - [3] Touche, just sounds like a waste in general.
SquadBroken Helljumpers Double Dutch Rudders	Posted - 2009.08.17 03:14:00 - [4] Speed.
Amon Dominus	Posted - 2009.08.17 03:22:00 - [5] Sniper hacs are very powerful in a support role and thier mobility allows them to gtfo and dictate range against other gangs. I dont have eft up but I believe a bc gang will struggle to hit the 100km while it is quite easy to do in a many hacs. In action RPGs, players are walking medieval magnets, stripping rooms of any equipment that isn't bolted down and ending up with a knapsack full of crap.
Crackzilla The Shadow Order	Posted - 2009.08.17 03:45:00 - [6] Speed, mobility, versatility These. A bs is cheaper but in the end its a big fat slow target. And many in 0.0 run 2 accounts or more. One out pvping and the other ratting/missioning. Its rare when the pve account can't out earn whatever losses on the pvp side. Hacs are expensive but they don't pop that often.
Ephemeron North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.08.17 03:53:00 - [7] Originally by: Crackzilla Speed, mobility, versatility If some newer people in CCP understood this basic concept, the Great Nano Nerf would not have happened with such horrid consequences.
SheriffFruitfly Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.17 03:57:00 - [8] Speed, dps, sr/lr option. A good combo. Downsides are real, of course: paper thin and spendy (no insurance). But eve is all about upsides and downsides. __________________________________________________________
Tormod Berg	Posted - 2009.08.17 03:58:00 - [9] Originally by: Ephemeron Originally by: Crackzilla Speed, mobility, versatility If some newer people in CCP understood this basic concept, the Great Nano Nerf would not have happened with such horrid consequences. The great nano nerf was a great thing, and I applaud CCP for having the balls to make it real
Ephemeron North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.08.17 04:02:00 - [10] Quote: The great nano nerf was a great thing, and I applaud CCP for having the balls to make it real It was a nerf to PvP as a whole. I understand the game has many more Carebears than PvPers, but this nerf was plain wrong. This game should promote elite pvp, not mindless carebearism.
SquadBroken Helljumpers Double Dutch Rudders	Posted - 2009.08.17 04:07:00 - [11] Originally by: Ephemeron Quote: The great nano nerf was a great thing, and I applaud CCP for having the balls to make it real It was a nerf to PvP as a whole. I understand the game has many more Carebears than PvPers, but this nerf was plain wrong. This game should promote elite pvp, not mindless carebearism. I miss my nano curse more than words can ever EVER express. That said, 14 km/s vaga's were very very annoying and perhaps (gasp) needed a tweak. The sledgehammer nerf they provided was a bit of a joke but I've grown to it. (Please note, I haven't grown to like it.)
bff Jill	Posted - 2009.08.17 04:15:00 - [12] This is all a lie. Hacs only ever got popular because people did not enjoy having to work all the way down F1 to F8 every time they wanted to shoot something. Hacs mercifully have fewer guns, and less slots in general. Thus fewer button presses. Humanities lazyness shows itself once again. Now that you can turn all guns on with one button HACs will fade out sooner or later once everyone realizes that the whole hac thing was just a fad. Any day now...
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.08.17 04:22:00 - [13] Chicks dig HAC pilots. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Darthewok Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.17 04:51:00 - [14] Sniper HACs in gangs of mixed ranges don't look so impressive as they can't always take advantage of their range tank. However, the dedicated sniper HAC gangs I've seen are formidable because of the 100km range tank + speed to escape heavy opposition + can easily pop tacklers and bubblers or burn to gates. Can probably rack up a high kill-loss ratio with few losses. My 2 ISK anyway
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.08.17 05:10:00 - [15] Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 17/08/2009 05:11:05 HAC jumps into a gatecamp. BS jumps into the same gatecamp. One survives, one dies horribly. Which one escapes? Quote: Sniper HACs in gangs of mixed ranges don't look so impressive as they can't always take advantage of their range tank. While true, they can also act as epic anti-support (especially against tacklers and such)...not to mention that they don't have to burn towards the target to apply DPS.
Poses	Posted - 2009.08.17 05:37:00 - [16] um... BCs are very similar to hacs these days... cept a lot slower so harder to control the range of an engagement. thats the real key, if you control the engagement then you cannot lose.
Respute Minmatar Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.08.17 06:00:00 - [17] The speed, agility, and range are obvious reasons. A pure sniper HAC gang that all fit 1 shield extender and bring along some Scimitar's can use their size, range, and speed to be very tanky. Against a Battleship fleet a sniper HAC that is properly setup and has Scimitar support can easily stay on the field for minutes when called primary. Speed also lets you fight on your terms and assures you are all the ones in your optimals and burn outta bubbles fast. If you are going to run a close range fleet BC put out more DPS, Tank, and are cheaper. While this is all and good they still lack some of the mobility to avoid sticky situations. I think I still lean towards bring a BC for close range work and keep the sniping to the HACs...although it really depends on how mobile you want your fleet to be. BC cannot hit the range HACs can, lack some speed/agility, and are bigger and easier to hit. At that point you might as well use sniper/RR BS. Hence why sniper HACs > Sniper BC.
Azael Lightshade Amarr V i L e	Posted - 2009.08.17 06:03:00 - [18] I will give you a good answer that most 0.0 pilots seem to forget because frankly they're not solo and they sometimes have no clue what it means to have red targets everywhere and no place to dock. HAC are good not because of the DPS but more because of the faster comment you made. Battlecruisers are very nice and can do many great things. They can be fitted to be like cruisers or fitted to be something more. The reason HAC's are good is because they are faster in agility, locking times, and velocity. One of the downfalls of being in a big ship is slow warp out times, slow locking times, slow agility times and slow velocity times. All the things needed to catch people to kill them. HAC's are more like cruisers than Battlecruisers are like cruisers. If you want to be aggressive with power you go HAC. If you want power you go Battlecruiser. It's all about the targets and you can't have your pick at what targets you run into. Think of it this way, battleships are powerful but you can't kill a cruiser unless you have a tackler. --- Recruiting 0.0 Pirates
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.08.17 06:14:00 - [19] Why do people love hacs? One word: Versatility. Quote: [03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA [03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
Aluin Chaput Caldari Mort's Navy	Posted - 2009.08.17 06:21:00 - [20] Edited by: Aluin Chaput on 17/08/2009 06:20:49 How do they fare busting and then forming gatecamps?
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.08.17 06:30:00 - [21] Originally by: Aluin Chaput Edited by: Aluin Chaput on 17/08/2009 06:20:49 How do they fare busting and then forming gatecamps? Totaly depends on the camp I would say. They go from an inty and damage dealer all the way up to lulz 30 bubble megacamps with a few hundred ships. But in the most common cases they will either have the firepower to break it up or simply run away if they can't. Quote: [03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA [03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
Aluin Chaput Caldari Mort's Navy	Posted - 2009.08.17 06:38:00 - [22] Well, I am looking for a ship that could (in gang/fleet) break up serious 0.00 bubblecamps.
Tagami Wasp Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.17 06:46:00 - [23] 0.0? Discophoon. Jumps in first, OMG!!111!eleven foollll pwnn him, SBs activate, 10 secs latter, when every small ship has popped, rest of gang jumps in, bubbles, kills whatever is left.
Aluin Chaput Caldari Mort's Navy	Posted - 2009.08.17 07:12:00 - [24] Edited by: Aluin Chaput on 17/08/2009 07:12:40 Serious replies please. What do the big guys use to take down other alliance's defenses?
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2009.08.17 07:49:00 - [25] Originally by: Ephemeron Originally by: Crackzilla Speed, mobility, versatility If some newer people in CCP understood this basic concept, the Great Nano Nerf would not have happened with such horrid consequences. I think CCP understood the power of speed, mobility and versatility only too well - which is why speed got nerfed. And *******s to the "elite PVP" comment - there's nothing elite or, indeed, desirable about everyone flying the same half-dozen identically-fit ships because they so far outclass any other ship or class of ship for almost any job.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2009.08.17 07:49:00 - [26] Originally by: Bugszor if you actually live in 0.0.. isk should never be a problem for you. Fun reply seeing all the "0.0 don't pay enough" threads.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2009.08.17 07:54:00 - [27] Originally by: Ephemeron Quote: The great nano nerf was a great thing, and I applaud CCP for having the balls to make it real It was a nerf to PvP as a whole. I understand the game has many more Carebears than PvPers, but this nerf was plain wrong. This game should promote elite pvp, not mindless carebearism. People doing PvP whine (PvE players can't care less about nanoships)), get what they wish and then other PvP people whine about their lost nanopower. So some PvP player win, some lose, all within the PvPers group. So where your carebears<->PvPers argument came from?
Joe Martin Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2009.08.17 08:01:00 - [28] Originally by: Ephemeron Quote: The great nano nerf was a great thing, and I applaud CCP for having the balls to make it real It was a nerf to PvP as a whole. I understand the game has many more Carebears than PvPers, but this nerf was plain wrong. This game should promote elite pvp, not mindless carebearism. Oh please, the nano nerf was completely necessary. It opened up a huge new berth of viable fits and styles of play instead of vagabonds online. Speed went from the only important factor to one of many important factors, and despite the nerf the ability to use and abuse speed to one's advantage is still a massive determinant in fight outcome. Not to mention nano is still alive and well, it just takes a little more wit than activate mwd > activate guns.
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.08.17 08:04:00 - [29] Originally by: Ephemeron Quote: The great nano nerf was a great thing, and I applaud CCP for having the balls to make it real It was a nerf to PvP as a whole. I understand the game has many more Carebears than PvPers, but this nerf was plain wrong. This game should promote elite pvp, not mindless carebearism. I disagree. Nano was silly. What we have now is an "over nerf" maby, but nano needed some changes. Webs, imo, took a huge hit. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Cpt Cosmic	Posted - 2009.08.17 08:23:00 - [30] nerf was fine, you can still use speed to dictate range and gtfo. why I use hacs? cause they perform and look much better then their t1 version and I dont like large slow ships.

Pages: [1] 2 3 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.