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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
731
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Posted - 2012.05.30 03:26:00 -
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To start, this is not really a serious topic. It's more of a "some guys and I were talking about what to primary and why and then someone had a random moment of insanity." Now I want to hear the communitys' thoughts on either the brilliance or "special-ness" of the idea.
It goes something like this:
In a small to medium-sized engagement, winning or losing is often decided by ships being called as primary and everyone focusing fire on it (even more so when dealing with enemy logistics).
Targets are called out using two things:
1. Ship type.
2. Name of the pilot.
Here's where the insanity comes in.
"But... what if two guys have more or less the same name and are flying the same ship?"
This got some of us thinking...
If a bunch of people went through the effort of making a bunch of characters with a series of "10101011" names (or something equally hideous to call out) and all the pilots trained to fly the same ship using the same tactics.... how would the enemy know who to focus fire against?
The concept can be seen in the animal kingdom where Zebras run in large herds, their stripes effectively making them individually indistinguishable from each other unless one gets separated.
Thoughts?
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
286
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Posted - 2012.05.30 03:41:00 -
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... "Broadcast Target" ?
Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Tekitha
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
36
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Posted - 2012.05.30 04:12:00 -
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wow, you late night guys are really special!
bringing a dumb question to the forums and having the obvious answer given to you by an alliance mate. This is why there is a thing called alliance chat, to save yourself looking stupid in public. |
Jack Miton
Bite Me inc
Exhale.
282
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Posted - 2012.05.30 05:09:00 -
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Tekitha wrote:wow, you late night guys are really special!
bringing a dumb question to the forums and having the obvious answer given to you by an alliance mate. This is why there is a thing called alliance chat, to save yourself looking stupid in public.
+1... |
Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
200
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Posted - 2012.05.30 05:10:00 -
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I was wondering where 789 learnt to post random crap like a tard :) |
Knus'lar
Deep Void Industrial Group
T A B O O
19
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Posted - 2012.05.30 05:36:00 -
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Could work, but only if you assume that broadcast target is too slow for most engagements (Which i agree, esepcially if you need to do it every single time).
I see two interesting adaptations to this.
1. instead of just having identical ships named the same, have ships named to a ship they arent. While this isnt going to fool people, its sure to cause just that second or two of confusion.
2. If you get good at this it could be really interesting: Renaming your ships to the enemy fleets'. You would have to have a good scout, and enough time to change names quickly. But i suppose that if they have overview setup correctly it wouldnt matter. Might freak someone out a little though |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
731
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Posted - 2012.05.30 05:48:00 -
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Knus'lar wrote:Could work, but only if you assume that broadcast target is too slow for most engagements (Which i agree, esepcially if you need to do it every single time).
This is what I am thinking.
In small engagement broadcasting would work... but once you get into 15+ sized engagements it becomes a bit difficult... as my experience has been that very few people find it easy to locate that little "broadcast" highlight in the midst of all the chaos... even on the overview.
edit: the broadcasting highlight also disappears after a few seconds... which means you have to keep rebroadcasting it over and over again... making it a tedious affair.
Tekitha wrote:bringing a dumb question to the forums and having the obvious answer given to you by an alliance mate. This is why there is a thing called alliance chat, to save yourself looking stupid in public.
It was never really a serious thought beyond, "yeah... that'd be pretty funny/cool." I just wanted to share and publicly laugh at the thought. 
Tekitha wrote:wow, you late night guys are really special snowflakes!
FYP.
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Kuehnelt
Amarrian Retribution
Amarr 7th Fleet
61
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Posted - 2012.05.30 06:00:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:In small engagement broadcasting would work... but once you get into 15+ sized engagements it becomes a bit difficult... as my experience has been that very few people find it easy to locate that little "broadcast" highlight in the midst of all the chaos... even on the overview.
edit: the broadcasting highlight also disappears after a few seconds... which means you have to keep rebroadcasting it over and over again... making it a tedious affair.
You can ctrl-click the broadcast in the fleet window; you don't need to hunt for it. |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
527
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Posted - 2012.05.30 08:03:00 -
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Hitting the broadcast hotkey is faster than reading someone's gibberish name.
Ctrl+clicking a broadcast is faster than trying to find that name between another 100 people in your overview.
The only reason FCs call out names is to confirm a broadcast, as potentially anyone can broadcast anything and you wouldn't know from the broadcast window. |
Ravnik
The Phoenix Rising
P R I M E
33
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Posted - 2012.05.30 10:12:00 -
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I guess fc could also say set overview to alphabetical and start from the top???
After a failed career as a comedian i decided to take up piloting. My flying techniques have got more laughs than my jokes ever did.....
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1657
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Posted - 2012.05.30 11:27:00 -
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Knus'lar wrote:Could work, but only if you assume that broadcast target is too slow for most engagements (Which i agree, esepcially if you need to do it every single time).
I see two interesting adaptations to this.
1. instead of just having identical ships named the same, have ships named to a ship they arent. While this isnt going to fool people, its sure to cause just that second or two of confusion.
2. If you get good at this it could be really interesting: Renaming your ships to the enemy fleets'. You would have to have a good scout, and enough time to change names quickly. But i suppose that if they have overview setup correctly it wouldnt matter. Might freak someone out a little though
Who has ship names on their overview? Is that even an option?
Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Alberik
Eusebius Corporation
7
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:01:00 -
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Ravnik wrote:I guess fc could also say set overview to alphabetical and start from the top???
stupid idea.. stupid stupid .. 
there are also tags, wich you can use to target also secondarys wich wont work with only the broadcast.
but tags do need a bit longer to select.
i came about a nearly same idea as i saw chinese(or somethink like this) and arabic letters on shipnames. no idea if it works with characternames too
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1599
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Posted - 2012.05.30 20:10:00 -
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Given the number of times I've seen people completely miss a target broadcast, it could be effective enough to make a difference in the fight. Of course the investment required makes it a bit prohibitive...
It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
200
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:15:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Given the number of times I've seen people completely miss a target broadcast ...
m8m8m8 you're flying with the wrong ppl.
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Jones Bones
Imperial Outlaws
62
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:16:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:
In small engagement broadcasting would work... but once you get into 15+ sized engagements it becomes a bit difficult... as my experience has been that very few people find it easy to locate that little "broadcast" highlight in the midst of all the chaos... even on the overview.
You wanna know how I know you've never been in a fight involving 200+ people?
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Suqq Madiq
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2012.05.31 00:10:00 -
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GJ OP! Way to come up with a bad idea and get the panties belonging to the btches from Shadows of the Federation all up in a bunch. You, sir, are a bad, bad man. |
Mfume Apocal
Origin.
Black Legion.
483
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:51:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Thoughts?
Default broadcast hotkey is "x". |
Mfume Apocal
Origin.
Black Legion.
483
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:52:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:In small engagement broadcasting would work... but once you get into 15+ sized engagements it becomes a bit difficult... as my experience has been that very few people find it easy to locate that little "broadcast" highlight in the midst of all the chaos... even on the overview.
That's why you use broadcast history and contro;+click from there, save your overview for helping maintain situational awareness. |
Ravnik
The Phoenix Rising
P R I M E
33
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Posted - 2012.05.31 09:40:00 -
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Alberik wrote:Ravnik wrote:I guess fc could also say set overview to alphabetical and start from the top??? stupid idea.. stupid stupid .. there are also tags, wich you can use to target also secondarys wich wont work with only the broadcast. but tags do need a bit longer to select. i came about a nearly same idea as i saw chinese(or somethink like this) and arabic letters on shipnames. no idea if it works with characternames too
Ok, stupid idea, care to tell me why?
After a failed career as a comedian i decided to take up piloting. My flying techniques have got more laughs than my jokes ever did.....
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Gremund Austrene
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
2
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Posted - 2012.05.31 13:20:00 -
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TL;DR replies.
Did anybody mention broadcast history? in a fleet fight with enough people to confuse the members, if you dont have fleet broadcast history up, you're either a Goon, or ********. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1685
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Posted - 2012.05.31 13:23:00 -
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Gremund Austrene wrote:TL;DR replies.
Did anybody mention broadcast history? in a fleet fight with enough people to confuse the members, if you dont have fleet broadcast history up, you're either a Goon, or ********.
If you're not going to read half a page of replies, don't bump a stupid thread.
Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1607
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Posted - 2012.05.31 13:51:00 -
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Lock out wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Given the number of times I've seen people completely miss a target broadcast ... m8m8m8 you're flying with the wrong ppl.
If everything goes right, it's not a Skunkworks op.
It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Dead On Arrival Alliance
361
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Posted - 2012.06.01 02:23:00 -
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For lols, BUGRY guys created a bunch of alts (and made use of a buddy system round-robin) called Mushroom Mushroom, with various substitutions of vowels for numbers & c., stuffed them all in combat badgers, and took off to Amamake for some fun.
Resulted in many, many dead mushrooms and badgers. Was pretty hilarious when the IFW guys combat probed us down and everyone panicked and got themselves gate gunned due to being trigger happy in combat Badgers.
The skilful employer of men will employ the wise man, the brave man, the covetous man, and the stupid man.
Sun Tzu
localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Mfume Apocal
Origin.
Black Legion.
488
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Posted - 2012.06.01 04:37:00 -
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Gremund Austrene wrote:TL;DR replies.
Did anybody mention broadcast history? in a fleet fight with enough people to confuse the members, if you dont have fleet broadcast history up, you're either a Goon, or ********.
Goons have bcast history up.
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