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Hiro Cephalus
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:27:00 -
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Original post is in Assembly Hall - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1154134
The announcement of Dust 514 has created a lot of heated discussion on both sides of the fence. Clearly, there is no middle ground in this debate, nor does this proposal attempt to force one. Whether one is for or against Dust 514, there can be no escaping what it represents.
Dust 514 is a paradigm shift in the endgame of EVE Online, and will change everything.
As no amount of petitioning, whining or other acts of TEXTAREA can serve to dissuade CCP from releasing Dust 514 as developed, the spotlight must fall onto those individuals who choose to represent the interests of the playerbase. The CSM.
Many questions remain as to the role of the CSM in this affair. It is the purpose of the CSM to gather player concerns and suggestions regarding all aspects of gameplay, from the New Player Experience to the endgame. It is clear that the announcement and subsequent release of Dust 514, having such far reaching effects on EVE, must have been discussed within the CSM. The question is, were the CSM aware of Dust 514 before the rest of us, or not?
If the CSM were complicit in the knowledge of Dust 514, then any work performed by them is tainted. If this were the case, they are keeping important information from the very people they are sworn to represent. What is the purpose of raising concerns if the conduit through which they are delivered knows of future developments that render these same concerns meaningless?
Thus, they cannot be trusted to best represent the issues of the playerbase, instead basking in their position of secret privilege. Non Disclosure Agreements aside, inside knowledge such as this can and will be used to the advantage of the CSM and their Alliances. A common theme in the history of Eve, as t20 and Band of Brothers Reloaded will testify.
If the CSM were not complicit in the knowledge of Dust 514, then CCP are not equipping them with the information they need to perform their roles. If such a game-changing development were held secret for three years, then what other secrets are being kept from our elected representatives? How can our issues be adequately represented if sweeping changes are to come without warning?
Thus, they cannot adequately represent the issues of the playerbase, and become no more than figureheads with as much influence in the direction of EVE as the Star Wars Galaxies Senate had on their ruined game.
Either way, the CSM has failed to serve the mandated purpose - that of providing a trustworthy conduit between the players and CCP. As with Dust 514, there is no middle ground. Either the players cannot trust the CSM, or the CSM cannot trust CCP.
This is not the much vaunted 'First Digital Democracy' that CCP would like to boast to the media. It is a sham, tainted by the undeniable truth of deception.
Which leads to the inevitable conlcusion that the CSM should and must be disbanded at the end of the current tenure.
As those who seek power are invariably least fit to wield it, clinging to their privilege like all good firsts among equals, the onus falls on us to ensure this power is dissolved. We the players must steadfastly REFUSE to vote in the next CSM election. Without the will of the people behind it, the CSM will crumble, as it would fail to serve its PR purpose.
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Hiro Cephalus
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:27:00 -
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As an alternative to the little good that the CSM have provided the playerbase, I suggest a more direct method of ensuring our concerns are heard. We already have a tool available to 'vote' for particular posts in the Assembly Hall forum. I suggest that a fortnightly Q&A session be raised, with a different developer each time, responding to the top 'n' posts in the forum relating to their own development discipline. As the next developer will be announced in advance, this will ensure that those with a vested interest in having their concerns heard will promote the posts that best express them.
These sessions must be uncut and unfiltered, as the PR whitewash that was the previous CSM-approved Q&A still contradicts CCPs supposed stance on transparency and accountability.
If CCP can bankroll an entire skunkworks project team for three years, then they can afford to take a developer off work for a day every fortnight to prepare these responses. It would definitely prove cheaper than shipping their puppets to Iceland every couple of months.
This is not to diminish the individuals who have worked hard to make the CSM the best it can be, nor to cast blame on (for example) Jade Constantine's excellent write up on planetary colonization. (Now rendered worthless, as it is incompatible with twitch FPS gameplay.) It is most likely that they were just as much in the dark as the rest of us, and have been equally played for fools.
In closing, we salute those who tried their best to bridge the gap between CCP and their customers. But it is time to move aside.
If Dust 514 has proved one thing, it is that change is inevitable and should be embraced.
We need action. We need change.
And we need it now.
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mcnuggetlol
Amarr The Penumbra Initiative
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:34:00 -
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i farted
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Rage of Inferno Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:36:00 -
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Lots of text considering you have next to no info what Dust will actually change to sov warfare and how sov warfare will look by then.
Ill read it when you have facts. -
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:36:00 -
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Never heard a word about Dust 514 while I was on the CSM.
They did tell us about the Combat Simulators in January, which scheduled for release in March, and most of the CSM was negative about it which may have contributed to CCP cancelling development of it when they ran into problems.
I don't believe the current CSM had any knowledge of Dust 514 although I cannot make any official statements regarding this. ---
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Erinyes Nazgul
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Hiro Cephalus The announcement of Dust 514 has created a lot of baseless, speculative discussion on both sides of the fence
Fixed.
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: Eddie Gordo on 19/08/2009 18:40:08
Initial feedback on my poll suggests a very positive response. Often the forums give a very distorted view on things because those who are happy with things say nothing, those that are not whine. A lot. Much like this :)
Poll - Are you looking forward to dust?
If your wondering about the dates on the poll, its because I edited the first default poll when making the website, it was started last night.
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:45:00 -
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As for the CSM somehow failing us either because they held information back or were kept in the dark well that's just not going to happen.
CCP have always said that eve is their baby, the CSM are there in an advisory/consultant/representative role. Nothing more.
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No Homo
Gallente Big Heart Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:57:00 -
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:words:
Can i get a sparknotes version?
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testirania
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:59:00 -
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And reported for crossposting... dumb***
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Gautan Virdamot
Nebula Rasa Vanguard
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Posted - 2009.08.19 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Never heard a word about Dust 514 while I was on the CSM.
They did tell us about the Combat Simulators in January, which scheduled for release in March, and most of the CSM was negative about it which may have contributed to CCP cancelling development of it when they ran into problems.
I don't believe the current CSM had any knowledge of Dust 514 although I cannot make any official statements regarding this.
Wait, what? They proposed combat simulators on Tranquility without having to go on Singularity and you thought it a bad idea why? Did anyone fraps it? |
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.19 19:05:00 -
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Please do not cross post. Thread locked.
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