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Shubinkin3	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:07:00 - [1] òA bug was introduced in Apocrypha 1.3 where the passive bonus of active hardeners was applied when the module was active. This has been fixed, and the passive bonus will no longer apply when armor or shield hardeners are active. Does this mean us active juys have been getting more than we should have been, or less?
Lork Niffle Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:07:00 - [2] Yes, your ship will now explode when scratched. ------------------------------------- Read my bio ingame for tips on how to live and not be called nasty names by me.
vikari East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:31:00 - [3] I've notice EFT not being exactly what i get in game. Might make up the difference but either way with stacking effects and what not, i don't believe we'll see much of a difference. couple points at most.
Messoroz	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:41:00 - [4] What the hell is the point of the small passive bonus when your gonna turn on the hardener anyway? Might as well just use a passive hardener.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:43:00 - [5] Originally by: Messoroz What the hell is the point of the small passive bonus when your gonna turn on the hardener anyway? Might as well just use a passive hardener. <aura>The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty.</aura> www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.quafeultra.com ò Buy a GTC
techzer0 Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:45:00 - [6] Edited by: techzer0 on 20/08/2009 15:46:12 I miss Armageddon day and the 100% resist invincible setups But yeah, noticed I was gettin a few points higher in-game than on EFT but nothing to rage about Siig is right, heh... Just wait till you are in a Sleipnir and run into a curse pilot on accident... I HATE YOU AURA!!! ------------ Originally by: Nexus Kinnon I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:46:00 - [7] Heh, I've always thought that bonus was rather stupid. It only serves to keep you alive for a second or two more when you're already capped out, but death is both certain and imminent anyway.
Messoroz	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:50:00 - [8] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Originally by: Messoroz What the hell is the point of the small passive bonus when your gonna turn on the hardener anyway? Might as well just use a passive hardener. <aura>The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty.</aura> You fail big if your not cap stable and your using active hardeners.
Builder Robert	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:51:00 - [9] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Originally by: Messoroz What the hell is the point of the small passive bonus when your gonna turn on the hardener anyway? Might as well just use a passive hardener. <aura>The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty.</aura> Builder Robert's Thunderbolt Missile hits you for 500 Builder Robert's Thunderbolt Missile hits you for 500 Builder Robert's Thunderbolt Missile hits you for 500 Builder Robert's Thunderbolt Missile hits you for 500 Builder Robert's Thunderbolt Missile hits you for 500 The Capacitor is empty Builder Robert's Thunderbolt Missile hits you for 480 Builder Robert's Thunderbolt Missile hits you for 480 Builder Robert's Thunderbolt Missile hits you for 480 Builder Robert's Thunderbolt Missile hits you for 480 Builder Robert's Thunderbolt Missile hits you for 480 Just great.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:53:00 - [10] Originally by: Messoroz You fail big if your not cap stable and your using active hardeners. I request a duel sir. Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Heh, I've always thought that bonus was rather stupid. It only serves to keep you alive for a second or two more when you're already capped out, but death is both certain and imminent anyway. Boy, isn't CCP great in giving us an extra 13.5%-7.5% resistance on our buffer tanks when our cap is dry? I'm sure I've never credited it much, but there have been times where I can safely say it has saved my ass in a pinch. (Read: I WON THE FIGHT AT 2% STRUCTURE!!!) www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.quafeultra.com ò Buy a GTC

NoNah	Posted - 2009.08.20 15:55:00 - [11] Originally by: Messoroz You fail big if your not cap stable and your using active hardeners. You sir might want to try something other than missions before doing such comments. Especially in a laggy enviroment. Hell, I've heard of titans failing to put their hardeners on before going down. Hi KIA! Parrots, commence! Postcount: 315495
Absolom Hues Gallente Eternum Pariah	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:00:00 - [12] Originally by: Messoroz Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Originally by: Messoroz What the hell is the point of the small passive bonus when your gonna turn on the hardener anyway? Might as well just use a passive hardener. <aura>The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty. The capacitor is empty.</aura> You fail big if your not cap stable and your using active hardeners. Messoroz, I guess you have never faced a Nuet Dominix or Curse in combat? I actually found his post funny... I could actually hear the female english voice saying "The capacitor is empty" ___ "Thats all I gots to say about that"
Sky Marshal IMpAct Corp Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:07:00 - [13] Edited by: Sky Marshal on 20/08/2009 16:07:30 Originally by: Shubinkin3 •A bug was introduced in Apocrypha 1.3 where the passive bonus of active hardeners was applied when the module was active. This has been fixed, and the passive bonus will no longer apply when armor or shield hardeners are active. Does this mean us active juys have been getting more than we should have been, or less? More, until today. Before the bug, it was 55% if you have only one active hardener. With the bug, it was 59.5% (55% + Passive / Stacking Penalty)... This made Shield tank more viable against Armor tank, same if Armor was still the best, but CCP hates the idea that we Caldari could have a few better tank, and worse, some morons made petitions... So they correct it. I still wait the correction for the last shield/armor nerf btw, as shield was more nerfed than armor... _______ Local is fine, period. CCP devs, you nerfed shield resists by 8.3% but armor by 7.1% (The old Explo/EM "10 points" Nerf). When will you correct this inconsistency ?
Zed Jackelope Insert Obscure Latin Name	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:12:00 - [14] Originally by: Sky Marshal Edited by: Sky Marshal on 20/08/2009 16:07:30 Originally by: Shubinkin3 òA bug was introduced in Apocrypha 1.3 where the passive bonus of active hardeners was applied when the module was active. This has been fixed, and the passive bonus will no longer apply when armor or shield hardeners are active. Does this mean us active juys have been getting more than we should have been, or less? More, until today. Before the bug, it was 55% if you have only one active hardener. With the bug, it was 59.5% (55% + Passive / Stacking Penalty)... This made Shield tank more viable against Armor tank, same if Armor was still the best, but CCP hates the idea that we Caldari could have a few better tank, and worse, some morons made petitions... So they correct it. I still wait the correction for the last shield/armor nerf btw, as shield was more nerfed than armor... They'll get right on that... as soon as they introduce passive armor regeneration. Originally by: Awesome Possum Ban in place for using inappropriate language and evading the profanity filter. When Will I be able to post again? 09/03/09
Sky Marshal IMpAct Corp Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:19:00 - [15] Another one who think that our shield regen is uber... _______ Local is fine, period. CCP devs, you nerfed shield resists by 8.3% but armor by 7.1% (The old Explo/EM "10 points" Nerf). When will you correct this inconsistency ?
Tom Peeping	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:22:00 - [16] Originally by: Sky Marshal Edited by: Sky Marshal on 20/08/2009 16:07:30 Originally by: Shubinkin3 òA bug was introduced in Apocrypha 1.3 where the passive bonus of active hardeners was applied when the module was active. This has been fixed, and the passive bonus will no longer apply when armor or shield hardeners are active. Does this mean us active juys have been getting more than we should have been, or less? More, until today. Before the bug, it was 55% if you have only one active hardener. With the bug, it was 59.5% (55% + Passive / Stacking Penalty)... This made Shield tank more viable against Armor tank, same if Armor was still the best, but CCP hates the idea that we Caldari could have a few better tank, and worse, some morons made petitions... So they correct it. I still wait the correction for the last shield/armor nerf btw, as shield was more nerfed than armor... Sigh.... as if shield isn't STILL a better active tank than armor after your so called nerf. I grant you that armor is a better buffer tank, but jeeze... that's actually somewhat balanced.
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2009.08.20 16:25:00 - [17] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Heh, I've always thought that bonus was rather stupid. It only serves to keep you alive for a second or two more when you're already capped out, but death is both certain and imminent anyway. By that logic, applying the passive bonus even when hardeners are active would still be stupid. If you get in a situation where your tank is going to fail with active hardener resists, then a few % more is most likely not going to save it either. In Soviet NER, blueprints research YOU!


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