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Mira Lynne State War Academy Caldari State 9	Posted - 2012.05.30 20:04:00 - [1] - Quote Looking for a Viable HAM-Tengu fit for Exploring in Gallente Highsec. Plan is to use the scanning sub to find sites, then refit for combat. Would Prefer HAM Fit - Heavy Missiles are Overused, and I dont want to be a part of that. HAMs would give me a better DPS, meaning that i'd be on better ground on contests (Particularly in Phi Outposts), and if i lose, im probably closer, i can scoop the loot and run. Have Great Shield skills, OK Nav and Missile Skills. Cant Use T2 HAMs Yet, so would probably Use Arbies. Probably Upgrade to Caldari Navy HAMs if I have the ISK but still cant use T2. Would Prefer a T2 Fit, no Faction/Deadspace unless Absolutely Necessary. Was thinking something along the lines of: Subs: Amplification Node CPU Efficiency Gate Accelerated Ejection Bay Fuel Catalyst Augmented Capacitor Reservoir High: 6x HAM Mid: 1x Large Shield Booster II 1x Target Painter II 1x Stasis Webifier II 1x 10MN Afterburner II 1x Kinetic Deflection Field II (Or Invulnerability Field II) 1x Thermic Dissipation Field II (Or Shield Boost Amplifier II) Low: 4x Ballistic Control System II Rigs: Toss up between Exp Velocity and Range Have Never Fit/Flown a Tengu Before. Wondering if this will even Fit (Thinking I may Run into PG Issues) Would this fit Work? Is there a Better fit for the Job, given the above requirements? Thanks in advance, all input appreciated ~ Support the Return of Realistic Module Icons! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114818&find=unread
Turelus Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District 34	Posted - 2012.05.30 21:37:00 - [2] - Quote Try building it in EVE Fitting Tool You just need to add your API to the program and you will be able to fit ships with your own skills. I don't have super knowledge on fittings for Tengu's but I am pretty sure a T2 fit Tengu should be able to tank any highsec complex/anomaly if you're using the correct damage types. I often run Gurista Complexes with my alt in a T2 fit Loki and she has never had her tank broken. "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
Melina Lin Universal Frog 28	Posted - 2012.05.30 21:56:00 - [3] - Quote The entire point of using a T3 in high-sec exploration is not having to re-fit. 2/3 of the NPC you are shooting are frigates. HAMs are bad for that, even if we leave the time spend getting into range out of the equasion. So, get HMs with Rigor/Flare rigs maybe put on Gravity Capacitor Upgrd. rig if your scanning skills are lacking.
Derath Ellecon Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal 209	Posted - 2012.05.30 22:01:00 - [4] - Quote Melina Lin wrote: The entire point of using a T3 in high-sec exploration is not having to re-fit. 2/3 of the NPC you are shooting are frigates. HAMs are bad for that, even if we leave the time spend getting into range out of the equasion. So, get HMs with Rigor/Flare rigs maybe put on Gravity Capacitor Upgrd. rig if your scanning skills are lacking. This. There is a reason HM are overused. Even they really arent the most optimal for frigates. But at least they have the RAAAAANGE
Daniel Plain Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 142	Posted - 2012.05.30 22:19:00 - [5] - Quote don't use HAMs. seriously.
Orlacc 172	Posted - 2012.05.30 23:20:00 - [6] - Quote Melina Lin wrote: The entire point of using a T3 in high-sec exploration is not having to re-fit. 2/3 of the NPC you are shooting are frigates. HAMs are bad for that, even if we leave the time spend getting into range out of the equasion. So, get HMs with Rigor/Flare rigs maybe put on Gravity Capacitor Upgrd. rig if your scanning skills are lacking. Pretty lame to refit a Tengu in High sec sorry. The whole point of a T3 is no refitting.
drdxie Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 86	Posted - 2012.05.31 00:35:00 - [7] - Quote You don't need the scanning subsystem to be able to scan down all the sig's in HS. I just use my standard mission 6 launcher fit, remove a launcher and put a sisters probe. I do not have great skills but manage to scan everything down just fine with 5 probes. I don't bother slavaging or doing mags, so no need to refit. I drop an invuln to fit a codebreaker. Alraedy have an AB fitted so 2 small changes and I am all set. HML's are better as many times you will get someone come in and try and get to the escalation npc before you, so being able to kill it at range really helps. Missile enhancers.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1235061&
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions 500	Posted - 2012.05.31 01:47:00 - [8] - Quote There's an awful lot wrong with this plan. You're using T1 HAMs, which means no Javelin, which means you are seriously range limited. You're using HAMs at all in a frigate-rich environment. You're using HAMs to prevent getting targets stolen but forgetting their range issues. You're using HAMs on a Tengu. You're fitting a non-probing sub in high sec -- and you're not even replacing it with a Dissolution Sequencer, which would at least prevent damps being as issue, which they well could be in Serpentis space. I know it's annoying that standard fits predominate, but there's reason for it. I'd suggest you try the mold before you break it and see how it works for you.
Mira Lynne State War Academy Caldari State 9	Posted - 2012.05.31 02:24:00 - [9] - Quote Thanks for all the replies - I Guess HMLs is the way to go then. Sad that HAMs are so overshadowed by HMLs I suppose. The Reason i was fitting the Scanning sub was bacuse my scanning skills are sub par ATM. Orlacc, you say that i shouldnt need to Refit, yet i can't find a Tengu fit with 6 Launchers and a Probe launcher at the same time - could you show your fit? Support the Return of Realistic Module Icons! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114818&find=unread
Derath Ellecon Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal 209	Posted - 2012.05.31 02:33:00 - [10] - Quote Mira Lynne wrote: Thanks for all the replies - I Guess HMLs is the way to go then. Sad that HAMs are so overshadowed by HMLs I suppose. The Reason i was fitting the Scanning sub was bacuse my scanning skills are sub par ATM. Orlacc, you say that i shouldnt need to Refit, yet i can't find a Tengu fit with 6 Launchers and a Probe launcher at the same time - could you show your fit? For Highsec you don't need 6 launchers. 5 is more than enough as the Tengu is such overkill to begin with. [Tengu, Exploration Tengu-Toy2] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Ballistic Control System II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Shield Boost Amplifier II Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster Cap Recharger II EM Ward Field II 10MN Afterburner II Codebreaker I Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Deep Space Scanner Probe I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir

Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions 500	Posted - 2012.05.31 02:41:00 - [11] - Quote Derath Ellecon wrote: Mira Lynne wrote: Orlacc, you say that i shouldnt need to Refit, yet i can't find a Tengu fit with 6 Launchers and a Probe launcher at the same time - could you show your fit? For Highsec you don't need 6 launchers. 5 is more than enough as the Tengu is such overkill to begin with. Yeah, but you can get them. Adaptive Shielding, Emergent Locus Analyzer, Augmented Capacitor Reservoir, Accelerated Ejection Bay, Fuel Catalyst.
Derath Ellecon Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal 209	Posted - 2012.05.31 02:45:00 - [12] - Quote Zhilia Mann wrote: Derath Ellecon wrote: Mira Lynne wrote: Orlacc, you say that i shouldnt need to Refit, yet i can't find a Tengu fit with 6 Launchers and a Probe launcher at the same time - could you show your fit? For Highsec you don't need 6 launchers. 5 is more than enough as the Tengu is such overkill to begin with. Yeah, but you can get them. Adaptive Shielding, Emergent Locus Analyzer, Augmented Capacitor Reservoir, Accelerated Ejection Bay, Fuel Catalyst. Which is exactly what my fit is. I'm pretty sure the OP is asking or thinking of a fit with 6 launchers + Probe launcher. Which would require 7 high slots.
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions 500	Posted - 2012.05.31 03:11:00 - [13] - Quote Derath Ellecon wrote: Zhilia Mann wrote: Yeah, but you can get them. Adaptive Shielding, Emergent Locus Analyzer, Augmented Capacitor Reservoir, Accelerated Ejection Bay, Fuel Catalyst. Which is exactly what my fit is. I'm pretty sure the OP is asking or thinking of a fit with 6 launchers + Probe launcher. Which would require 7 high slots. Swap your defensive sub. 7 highs.
Derath Ellecon Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal 209	Posted - 2012.05.31 03:40:00 - [14] - Quote Zhilia Mann wrote: Derath Ellecon wrote: Zhilia Mann wrote: Yeah, but you can get them. Adaptive Shielding, Emergent Locus Analyzer, Augmented Capacitor Reservoir, Accelerated Ejection Bay, Fuel Catalyst. Which is exactly what my fit is. I'm pretty sure the OP is asking or thinking of a fit with 6 launchers + Probe launcher. Which would require 7 high slots. Swap your defensive sub. 7 highs. dang missed that somehow. I stand corrected. Still, I've never needed 6 launchers in any high sec site.
Tomcio FromFarAway Singularity's Edge 52	Posted - 2012.05.31 06:13:00 - [15] - Quote drdxie wrote: You don't need the scanning subsystem to be able to scan down all the sig's in HS. I just use my standard mission 6 launcher fit, remove a launcher and put a sisters probe. I do not have great skills but manage to scan everything down just fine with 5 probes. That's not the point. It is about time not ability. With scanning subsystem ( and 7 probes ) you can do it much, much faster. In addition - you cannot use expanded launcher without this subsystem ( for dsp's ). The competition in hisec can be quite harsh. The one, who can scan sites faster - wins ( usually ). Of course you can do it like you said but what's the point if you can do it so much faster.
Jelizza Arlath School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.06.25 09:08:00 - [16] - Quote Guessing I might as well jump into this thread rather than making new ones. I'm quite new to the whole exploration thing. I know how to use the probes to scan down sites from researching and watching quite a few good tutorials on youtube as well as great guides written by numerous people. I have a few questions though. Up until now I've used a Heron, fitted with Sisters Core Probe launcher, salvager, codebreaker, analyzer and an MWD to zip between the boxes. Whenever there has been rats around, even though they are pretty weak highsec rats I've been forced to switch to my alt on a 2nd account to fly in and blow them up since my own combat skills are pretty lacking (Hybrid turrets 1 ... Missile Launchers 1... you get the idea). Based on that it's pretty obvious I need to step up from the Heron and find a ship that can both scan as well as blow up the rats to avoid the dualboxing, plus save some time. I'm considering just training up the Astro skills in my more combat oriented character rather than training combat on this character. But what ships would you recommend (besides the Tengu which seems to be the obvious "end goal" as far as exploration ships go). I was thinking about a Worm, but every fit I can find with the Worm have none of the exploration modules fitted (i.e. no salvager, codebreaker or analyzer). Is it common to carry those in cargo and then fly to stations to refit for every site you want to do? Then I looked at the Cormorant and put together a fit that has all the exploration mods fitted (like the codebreaker/salvager/analyzer) with both 75mm rails as well as putting blasters on, plus an MWD and MSE. Anyone have experience with using a Cormorant as a no-pitstops exploration ship ? Granted, it can't handle DED 4/10's and such, but still. I haven't really looked that much on cruisers just yet, and I dunno if Caldari have any cruisers that would be good for fitting exploration mods on. The Caracal seems like it would suffer quite a bit by taking up module slots to fit exploration mods. The Moa I honestly haven't looked at much at all since past Small Hybrids my combat alt is fully trained into missiles and not gunnery. Anyways, what I'm really looking for is some pointers from more experienced explorers on what ships to be using/advance to while still working on getting a Tengu, but not being quite there yet.
Mnemosyne Gloob Teshnology Inc. Stealth Wear Inc. 61	Posted - 2012.06.25 14:08:00 - [17] - Quote There's always the Drake. (can't believe i would say it). Also what you can do as a practically 1 or 2 days old character is get an Imicus and go hunt for radars in highsec - with up to 3 small drones you can clear basically all highsec radars of rats in it, scan and hack. Vexor is a pretty solid choice afterwards, or Arbitrator. But i guess since the dogma is Tengu, you will want boring Drake.
Derath Ellecon Washburne Holdings 242	Posted - 2012.06.25 14:23:00 - [18] - Quote Mnemosyne Gloob wrote: There's always the Drake. (can't believe i would say it). Also what you can do as a practically 1 or 2 days old character is get an Imicus and go hunt for radars in highsec - with up to 3 small drones you can clear basically all highsec radars of rats in it, scan and hack. Vexor is a pretty solid choice afterwards, or Arbitrator. But i guess since the dogma is Tengu, you will want boring Drake. Drake won't fit into many High sec DED sites.
Jelizza Arlath School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.06.25 14:50:00 - [19] - Quote I fly Caldari ships. My combat character already has Caldari cruiser V, which is why I'm more inclined to train up Astro on her than Combat on my current exploration trained character. I found quite a few combat sites, but when I tried to fly my alts Caracal there it told me the acceleration gate wouldn't allow Cruisers, but only frigate size ships, so I guess "big" ships isn't a good idea for just exploring in highsec. The DED 4/10 sites seem to allow a battlecruiser though (at least according to the DED wiki on the EVElopedia website). The drones was partly why I looked at the Worm, thinking whatever DPS it lost from fitting the exploration stuff could be (somewhat) made up for by having drones.
Liliana Rahl Remote Soviet Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore 104	Posted - 2012.06.25 15:26:00 - [20] - Quote No.

FloppieTheBanjoClown The Skunkworks 1825	Posted - 2012.06.25 15:49:00 - [21] - Quote As has been said: HAMs are terrible for shooting frigs. Heavies are a better solution because your DPS will be applied more frequently (longer range) and more evenly (smaller ships). In a PVE situation, you might even find that heavies actually have a higher real DPS. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you.
Flakey Foont 159	Posted - 2012.06.25 15:59:00 - [22] - Quote Melina Lin wrote: The entire point of using a T3 in high-sec exploration is not having to re-fit. 2/3 of the NPC you are shooting are frigates. HAMs are bad for that, even if we leave the time spend getting into range out of the equasion. So, get HMs with Rigor/Flare rigs maybe put on Gravity Capacitor Upgrd. rig if your scanning skills are lacking. This again. A T3 is so you don't have to refit.
Jelizza Arlath School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.06.25 17:07:00 - [23] - Quote Hm, so much for searching topics instead of recreating new ones. I kinda bumped this by asking which ships to go for (as caldari) before I can fly the Tengu (which I can't just yet). Now everyone is replying to the OP :P Guess I should have made a separate thread :P


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