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Drakon
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Posted - 2003.06.23 06:22:00 -
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Why don't major corps complain to ccp about lag? You know you will have greater success.
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Drakon
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Posted - 2003.06.23 06:22:00 -
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Why don't major corps complain to ccp about lag? You know you will have greater success.
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Entheos
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Posted - 2003.06.23 07:30:00 -
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Why? Lag creates "accidents". Accidents create opportunities for sellers to draw you to their showrooms to purchase their products.
Ever have to buy a new car because some drunk came along and totalled your car by trying to merge his car into yours? Did you go out and build yourself a new car, or did you take mass-transit to the nearest "strip" of car dealerships and walk up and down trying to figure out what you could afford to buy while someone cheerily told you not to worry about paying for it, because they have "financing" that you could easily manage every month?
Sound familiar?
Yeah...lag sucks elephant testes, but as long as "Accidents" happen as a result, the Megacorps are going to profit from it. And why would the Megacorps (or for that matter, ANY manufacturer) want to shoot their gift cash cow?
(Disclaimer: The opinions made above in no way shape or form reflect the ideals, attitudes, or code of ethics of his Corporation.
In addition, the reference to cows or anything remotely bovine in nature is in no way shape or form directed to refer to a certain well known and infamous Corporation within our gaming community. To do so would be a great slander on all cattle past, present and future. :P)
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Captain Mikhail "Entheos" Rostakovich
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Entheos
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Posted - 2003.06.23 07:30:00 -
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Why? Lag creates "accidents". Accidents create opportunities for sellers to draw you to their showrooms to purchase their products.
Ever have to buy a new car because some drunk came along and totalled your car by trying to merge his car into yours? Did you go out and build yourself a new car, or did you take mass-transit to the nearest "strip" of car dealerships and walk up and down trying to figure out what you could afford to buy while someone cheerily told you not to worry about paying for it, because they have "financing" that you could easily manage every month?
Sound familiar?
Yeah...lag sucks elephant testes, but as long as "Accidents" happen as a result, the Megacorps are going to profit from it. And why would the Megacorps (or for that matter, ANY manufacturer) want to shoot their gift cash cow?
(Disclaimer: The opinions made above in no way shape or form reflect the ideals, attitudes, or code of ethics of his Corporation.
In addition, the reference to cows or anything remotely bovine in nature is in no way shape or form directed to refer to a certain well known and infamous Corporation within our gaming community. To do so would be a great slander on all cattle past, present and future. :P)
We now return you to your regular programming, already in progress...
www.hadean.org
Captain Mikhail "Entheos" Rostakovich
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Moria
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Posted - 2005.11.20 22:39:00 -
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good idea
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Gyro DuAquin1
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Posted - 2005.11.20 22:57:00 -
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good idea, and all this, but y dont u post it with ur main?
BTW I complain about lag, so ccp do something.
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.11.20 23:38:00 -
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somehow, its all bobs fault. They got the sekrit tech 2 lag generater bpo and have ever since been equiping it whenever they have small forces of ships anywhere. 
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.20 23:53:00 -
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Im actually in favor of lag. Seems to work in my advantage most of the time. |
Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.11.21 00:13:00 -
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dont blob, no lag
simple
Killboard.co.uk
In game channel kr0m-public |
boogie ace
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Posted - 2005.11.21 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: boogie ace on 21/11/2005 00:41:57
Yes please try do something about horrendous lag that occurs during fleet engagements of 100+ people - atm its near impossible to operate your ship to its full capability, and the outcome of many battles in the past may have been different had there been minimum lag, since alot of things in the universe of eve / politics depend on the outcome of big fleet engagements, i see it important to minimize the lag during them. 
 Originally by: Evil Edna
dont blob, no lag
simple
as for the quote above - yeah sure whatever  - so when big alliances with 800+ members are fighting to control an area of space or whatever we choose only 50 from each alliance to battle it out right and tell the others to go watch tv on that saturday night?? dunno bout you but that sound gh3y
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ASCN Forever
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Posted - 2005.11.21 00:38:00 -
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You have to be kidding.......move along citizen, its against the license agreeement to discuss lag.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.21 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Edna
dont blob, no lag
simple
Hey, persh, is this pilot ever in one of your fleets?
If so, aren't they a bit of a hypocrite?
If not, when are they getting kicked for non-participation, and can I camp a gate with them before you boot them?
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.11.21 16:04:00 -
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are you that annoying nubber i had a discussion about with this before?
the one who refuses to accept change and evolution of tactics?
Killboard.co.uk
In game channel kr0m-public |
Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2005.11.21 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Entheos
Why? Lag creates "accidents". Accidents create opportunities for sellers to draw you to their showrooms to purchase their products.
Ever have to buy a new car because some drunk came along and totalled your car by trying to merge his car into yours? Did you go out and build yourself a new car, or did you take mass-transit to the nearest "strip" of car dealerships and walk up and down trying to figure out what you could afford to buy while someone cheerily told you not to worry about paying for it, because they have "financing" that you could easily manage every month?
Sound familiar?
Yeah...lag sucks elephant testes, but as long as "Accidents" happen as a result, the Megacorps are going to profit from it. And why would the Megacorps (or for that matter, ANY manufacturer) want to shoot their gift cash cow?
(Disclaimer: The opinions made above in no way shape or form reflect the ideals, attitudes, or code of ethics of his Corporation.
In addition, the reference to cows or anything remotely bovine in nature is in no way shape or form directed to refer to a certain well known and infamous Corporation within our gaming community. To do so would be a great slander on all cattle past, present and future. :P)
We now return you to your regular programming, already in progress...
That is wrong! Lag prevents battles from occuring which results in less ships destroyed and less profit for megacorps.
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Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2005.11.21 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Stepping Razor on 21/11/2005 17:50:52
Lots of folks petition lag, including large corps who are affected by them.
CCP is also quite interested in reducing lag, but seem to be a little stumped as to how to finally end it. They have however done hardware upgrades, added the turrets and effects option, are changing drones and are currently trying to figure out bookmarks which are apparently some major source of lag somehow.
Lag does suck, especially in large fleet battles. But I'm pretty sure CCP is well aware and motivated regarding the problem.
Razor
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.21 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Edna
are you that annoying nubber i had a discussion about with this before?
the one who refuses to accept change and evolution of tactics?
Actually, I think it was yourself that walked away quite comfortably with that title.
You cannot and will not stop people grouping up in EVE.
It's called a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER game.
You say don't blob, you may aswell not play - when you join an alliance you are required to help defend it when it calls you, so not only are you not going to play, you're also a hypocrite.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.11.21 17:54:00 -
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fine blob up all you want
enjoy your extreme lag and node crashes while i play in lag free happyness 
Killboard.co.uk
In game channel kr0m-public |
Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.11.21 18:10:00 -
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If big corps complain about anything all the trolls crawl out from under there bridge with the "You just want a win button argument." Then they go back to using what ever game mechanic flaw there using at the time to get cheap BS ganks.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.21 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Edna
fine blob up all you want
enjoy your extreme lag and node crashes while i play in lag free happyness
Maybe we'll bring the lag to you, then.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.11.21 18:39:00 -
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lol im skeeered
MOMMY
Killboard.co.uk
In game channel kr0m-public |
Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2005.11.22 01:29:00 -
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I'm against lag...but we're not a bigger corp and I guess the lag doesn't care
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R4d1o4ct1v3
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Posted - 2005.11.22 03:16:00 -
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Do you guys honestly think CCP aren't trying to reduce lag? If there was a way to fix it just like that they would already have done it.
I don't think a mass spam of complaints are gona help em in any way. They know the lag is there and they are doing what they can. Get of their case amd let em work!
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Leyanna
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Posted - 2005.11.22 10:11:00 -
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Latency issues do not have a "quick fix magic wand".
The mere nature of the internet in general is one factor in this "problem". I believe one of the developers made a very simple animation of what causes "lag" and where it happens. Some of the plaintiffs in here should check it out.
Basically, lag will never be erased. There are measures that can be taken to reduce extreme amounts, but never complete eradication. This is known fact of the Internet and servers/networks.
While CCP does great things for us the players to upgrade hardware (like the recent hardware change), servers are never big enough, fast enough, cheap enough, to have 100% completely seamless transmissions of information. There is always something or someone who will complain.
Nature also plays a big role and is neither predictable nor preventable. Any of you with satellite TV know full well what happens to your service when there is increased solar activity: you get junk on TV.
Who do you blame?
God?
I'd like to thank CCP for what they HAVE done for us so far with not only lag but countless of other things. They give us fanfests. CCP brings us forums to flame each other with (and get locked). They bring us a one stop shop for most if not all of our Eve needs. CCP works tirelessly constantly to deliver that "extra mile" of customer service and gaming experience.
And I bet you every single CCP staff member would absolutely love to have 100% lag freeness. This is why the company does all it can, like putting in new hardware for us.
Patience and understanding go a long way. Open your mind. 
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Roke E'raith
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Posted - 2005.11.22 12:25:00 -
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...and do you people realize that hardware costs money? It isn't just a couple of bucks for a server. It needs to be fitted etc. And CCP actually have to pay salaries to people (I am not sure everyone here is familiar with that concept). You do the math. How much money do they get every month and how much do they have to spend (on leases, salaries, Internet connection costs, etc.). Even if you pay your 14 Euros, it helps. But more is needed.
I say they try, and they try hard. I come from the ebil empire of SoE (with titles like Everquest, Planetside, etc.). CCP DO tell you WHAT is wrong and they are DOING to try to fix it. SOE denies ANY problem unless people more or less threatens them. And SOE has about 10 or 20 times the montly income than CCP.
And don't let me started on B Liz(z)ard...
If you don't like the lag - try to lure more people into playing AND paying their subscriptions. Then the results will be better.
/Roke
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2005.11.22 14:10:00 -
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Yes, the whole point is that removing lag isn't easy. Solving it requires time. So even if people start to jump out of the window or call the united nations it will not help to make the game lag-free within the next weeks.
I prefer to accept the reality. I usually don't demand the impossible, because it doesn't lead anywhere.
If you can't stand it anymore, don't p(l)ay until it's solved.
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