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Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2012.05.31 00:37:00 -
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I wrote a quick guide for those looking for new and interesting ways to get into the ******* business. If anybody needs any advice or has questions, feel free to convo me. If I'm not busy, I may even be able to show up with logi support. Or at least to cheer you on.
The basic premise of a safari is that you put a character in a corp for the exclusive purpose of killing their dudes. There are subtleties here about what sort of dudes to kill and if you can make any money off of it, but that's the basic idea. So I'll go through the most basic version of it, and then talk about some of the embellishments you can add. A Safari and an AWOX are very closely related things, and you can use the words more or less interchangeably unless you're a huge sperg.
1) The character you want to do this with.
For this job, just about any sort of character works, but some are especially good. The most important thing is that you want to look like a good recruit. So a clean-ish corp history, a clean-ish killboard, and some desirable skills are all good ideas, although none of those are required. As always, you can catch the dumber CEOs even with the the dirtiest histories, killboards, and bios simply because they don't bother to check. If you have reasonably high SP then that tends to blind potential victims to your faults.
Many CEOs will ask for your API. That's fine. Give it to them. If you're using an account made for this purpose than go ahead and give them everything. If it's a character on an account with existing stuff, just give them the character API. They probably won't check it beyond making sure you have the SP you say you have. Leaving out the wallet history and assets might be wise, especially since if this is an alt you probably funded it with your main. If they mention it, you can act hurt and ask them if they want to know so they can steal your stuff. That usually gets them off your back.
The other method is to make a brand new character and get into a corp almost immediately. Your choice of corps is a bit more limited here, but as long as they'll accept newbies there's not a thing that ties you to a life of crime. After a couple of safaris you can even delete the character and make a new one, having only lost a couple days of skill training. (Note: don't do this with suicide gank characters. Recycling negative sec status dudes is an exploit.) The trick with brand new characters is that you probably want to have a logi dude nearby to support you.
If you're making a brand new character, go for a catalyst or a thrasher, be able to fit a full rack of guns, a damage control, a scram, and all the damage mods you can. You'll be partially speed-tanking and partially logi-tanking, and a damage control is often enough for most purposes. Make sure to play up the newbie thing. Be naive, but not annoying. Be proud of your destroyer. It's the best ship you can fly, after all.
2) The corp you want to do this to.
The corp you're looking for is a large-ish highsec corp. You're probably looking for at least 20 people. More importantly than that, you're looking for activity. You want people actually in space to be doing things. Corps that advertise industry, incursions, and mission running are best. A corp that advertises everything probably does nothing, but the individual pilots will undoubtedly be in space doing things at some point.
Also, ask how frequently they have corp ops. These are great opportunities to kill stuff.
3) Okay, so you're in a corp, now what?
Here's the fun part. Open your map, go to 'My Information', and tick 'My Corp Members Now in Space'. This map is delayed by about five minutes, so if they're traveling somewhere it's not the most accurate method of finding dudes, but it's a good start.
Look at those people who are in space and online (note that the map shows you people who logged off in space as well). Check Battleclinic or Eve-kill to see what sorts of ships they've lost. Listen to corp chatter to see if there's any ops going on. If there aren't ask if anyone will help you get established with the local mission agent or whatever. This works especially well if someone has some super-pimp mission boat that they want to show off.
If you start an op or get invited to join someone who is doing stuff on his own, it's better for you if you make the fleet. That way you can right-click the fleet properties button thingy and click 'show fleet composition'. This will allow you to see exactly what they're flying and exactly what system they're in, in real time.
Once you've decided on your target, either join the op (if there is one) or go to the system they're missioning/mining/incursioning in or to a neighboring system. If you're joining an op, simply warp to the op and commence the killing.
If you're hunting a target that thinks he's going to hang out and mind his own business, get a covops in system first and drop some probes. If he's in a major mission hub like Motsu, scanning down every sig could be a problem, so make sure you check his kb to get an idea what he might be flying. Also, when not actually warping to a mission or whatever to see if that's your dude, park your ship at the station he's most likely to use and you might just see him drift by, which will let you know exactly what he's flying and, if you're quick to reposition your probes, will even get you a signature ID.
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Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2012.05.31 00:38:00 -
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4) What ship should I use for this?
My favourite and most hilarious is a Catalyst. It takes two days to skill into and allows you to slap around much older characters with less than a million skill points. Obviously, you need a logi buddy to help with this. The good news is that corp-on-corp violence doesn't invoke agression of any kind, so there's no circumstances under which your victims will be able to shoot the logi legally. So you can fit it all for cap regen and rock a Guardian that can run five reppers and one cap transfer nearly constantly, since you don't have to worry about any kind of tank.
Another favourite of mine is a Talos. They fly like a Brutix and hit like a Megathron. The downside is that there's basically no reason a carebear needs to fly one, so you'll get a lot of questions as soon as someone smells that you're flying a Talos. If you're waiting for the Golem pilot to finish putting his kids to bed and come back to the op so you can kill him, this is bad.
A really solid choice, though, is a Hurricane or possibly a HAM Drake. They look like they could be mission boats, and you can even claim to be running protection for a mining op. They do a decent amount of dps, too.
Here's a specific bit of fitting advice, though: Fit two points. Yes, you'll sacrifice some tank, but this isn't exactly an actual fight. You'll thank me when you hold down a Hulk and an Orca while killing a third Hulk because he's AFK.
5) Okay, I've killed stuff and they're mad. Now what?
I don't normally talk smack, but if you're so inclined, now is the time. I prefer to soak up the hate and let it power my cold, black, clockwork heart.
That aside, pop that map open and go see who else you can kill! There's probably somebody not paying attention to chat doing something else in some other part of space. Go kill him, too. Whatever you do, don't log off and don't dock up. I don't normally advise cloaks on non-recon combat ships, but this might be a situation for one. I often make them pay me a ransom or give me a medal before I'll go away.
Embellishments:
1) Make money!
This one is a beauty. As someone to help you haul your stuff. Freighters and Orcas are great, but even a T1 industrial works for this. Give them a courier contract of a couple of empty cans, put 600m collateral on it. Hell, offer to escort them, even. Then, when you kill their ****, they can't deliver the contract, so you get the isk.
You can even go further by demanding a ransom. Let's say your victim is a freighter. You put up a contract with 600m collateral, and then ransom the freighter for 500m. You've just made 1.1b isk and cost your victim a total of 1.7b! Not bad for an afternoon of work.
2) Milk tears
Demand a medal. I'm serious. Tell them you won't dock and won't log off until you get a medal. Or an isk ransom. In fact, if it's a seperate account and you have nothing better to do with it, actually leave it logged on. If you're in NA, like me, downtime is just before you would get up to go to work, so you can even log on then and cloak so they have a very small window to kick you out. Point out that you're completely shutting down their operations until you are out of corp.
If they ignore you, just wait and gank more things.
Medals are the most hilarious thing, though.
P.S. There are certain circumstances under which you might get kicked in space. If this happens while violencing somebody's boat, overheat your guns. You'll still be able to shoot fine, but you will get a delayed blast CONCORD-ball. Petition it later. You'll probably get your ship back and the CEO that did it might get slapped on the ***** for it. |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
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Posted - 2012.05.31 16:46:00 -
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+1
I've done it this way and the results are almost universally hilarious.
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
smokess
Selective Hearing
Nearly Feared
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Posted - 2012.05.31 16:55:00 -
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I love you Mr Monk. I bloody well love you.
(and your monocle) |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1740
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Posted - 2012.06.02 14:23:00 -
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Well Poached.
Safari + Ebil  Poaching..... eh, it's weak.
Good guide.
Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
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Posted - 2012.06.02 16:01:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote: [...] delayed blast CONCORD-ball [...]
Looooooooools! (Please say I'm not the only one who caught that reference.)
This one, I like him 
In irae, veritas. |
Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
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Posted - 2012.06.02 16:30:00 -
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Doing this right now to some ******** high sec corp that smack talks all day every day and gets war decced by everyone and their mother. Being on both their vent and the aggressor's at the same time is especially lulzy. |
Private Pineapple
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.03 15:58:00 -
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This is pretty lulzy. |
Damsa Desirah
Rifterlings
Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2012.06.10 01:39:00 -
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Good guide... If FW bores me ever... Time to have some lovely fun...
It's not what your Alliance can do for you... It's what you can do to them before they realize you really work for the almighty WormHole God, BoB... |
pelchan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.10 02:09:00 -
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Interesting. |
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.10 02:23:00 -
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this is a good thread |
Reppyk
The Black Shell
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Posted - 2012.06.10 02:49:00 -
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I was going to make the "medal" joke, but you beat me.
Other safaris, with a bit more work :
- cancel their jobs/R&D. Mr Joe doesn't like having his ME+1 titan BPO canceled. Oh no he doesnt like it.
- the classic. Get the corp hangars
- my favorite. Get the labs, the guns, the tower and even the fuel. Don't forget to anchor a can with a funny name. |
Private Pineapple
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.11 01:29:00 -
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Reppyk wrote:I was going to make the "medal" joke, but you beat me.
Other safaris, with a bit more work :
- cancel their jobs/R&D. Mr Joe doesn't like having his ME+1 titan BPO canceled. Oh no he doesnt like it.
- the classic. Get the corp hangars
- my favorite. Get the labs, the guns, the tower and even the fuel. Don't forget to anchor a can with a funny name.
The fuel? That's just rubbing it in.
Support Damen Apol's proposal! -áSolve all problems with FW with a simple solution!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119683&find=unread |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
229
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Posted - 2012.06.12 05:23:00 -
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Quote:A quick Safari guide ...nearly the same as a regular wrangler only it does have the dana 44, the Safari logo, and painted fender flares.
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Saturn Boomer
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:25:00 -
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I bloody love you sir! Good ideas there, will get right on it! 
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PREPARE TO BE VIOLATED-á |
Tug McLub
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:36:00 -
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Monk,
You get a FREE tug for this post, A+++
:) |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2012.06.21 20:59:00 -
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Monk is quite good at this sort of thing. For whatever reason, all my attempts have fallen flat. It seems my omnipresence on the forums has certain...side effects. Like being easily recognized.
It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Tug McLub
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2012.06.22 00:11:00 -
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Its ok Floppie, there is plenty of luv for you on the forums and if not I am always available.....for a small fee :) |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2012.07.06 05:45:00 -
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I feel the need to bump this thread tonight after being on comms when an AMAZING safari adventure went down. One of our guys was out canflipping when he spotted a giant ball of mackinaws around an Orca. It was stupidly easy for him to get recruited as a seasoned PVPer. This was the corp chat:
Multiboxing Ice Miner > Welcome rareden
Corpmate > 0/
rareden > greetings
Corpmate > what you like to do rareden
rareden > this
And "this" means the destruction of 15 Mackinaws, an Orca, and 4 pods as the the multiboxer scrambled to evacuate his mining fleet. He saved one Orca (yes, there were 2 out there) and one Mackinaw. I removed the links to the killmails, but the information is out there and API verified for all to see.
That's a total 4.43 billion isk. Loot and salvage that we bothered to recover was worth over 500 million.
Alas, it all happened so fast that there is no video of the event.
It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
320
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Posted - 2012.07.06 13:39:00 -
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Wait... was it that that honeybear set in Wuos?
In any case, I'm so sorry I missed it. That's kickass. Grats to Rareden. |
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Rat Farmer
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.06 13:59:00 -
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This is great... |
Christy D Floyd
Astra Research
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:25:00 -
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Monk
You are my hero I cannot wait to try this +100
If you ever need a partner for these endevaors mail me in-game I have alts who can rep. |
Vellen Thoss
The Drone Legion
Northern Strike
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Posted - 2012.07.06 15:40:00 -
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Oh god, this is a pisser. I got stares at work from laughing so hard.
That is just too funny, and I think in fact, I have a new hero. |
Jonah Gravenstein
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Posted - 2012.07.27 00:28:00 -
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We need more threads like this and the one with the new guy wanting to prey on his peers, very educational.
+1 because of the sheer dastardlyness, it appeals to me 
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Sang-in Tiers
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2012.07.27 02:49:00 -
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Hilarious. +1 |
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