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Tellenta Gallente Invicta. Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.08.24 22:11:00 - [31] Originally by: Grumples McGee Falcons: Reduces PvP risk by jamming targets so they can't shoot back. Cynos: Increases PvP risk by letting anyone drop a fleet onto your head with no warning. Which do you think causes more PvPers to quit EVE? Discuss. Cyno's because hotdropping someone only to be hotdropped back and killed makes people real sad.
Thingymawotzit	Posted - 2009.08.24 22:58:00 - [32] Personally I think its the cynos that jump in the falcons. ie. Black ops jump bridges where recons and stealth bombers jump through and stuff. But srsly i dont think ppl would quit eve over any of these.
kingofallgimps Minmatar 11th Gimp Inc	Posted - 2009.08.24 23:24:00 - [33] cant ancer
Darth Smurf	Posted - 2009.08.25 00:49:00 - [34] Originally by: kingofallgimps cant ancer I see what you did there Note to the OP....please leave and never return.
Derwent Free Lapland The Kadeshi	Posted - 2009.08.25 10:46:00 - [35] cyno-falcons
Xenophanes Colophon	Posted - 2009.08.25 11:16:00 - [36] Ooh, how about widows jump bridging falcons with cynos fit?
Athena Minoko Mean Corp	Posted - 2009.08.25 13:35:00 - [37] Dunno if anyone said it, but neither. Cyno falcons are the most annoying! ---- Sig starts here --- "Anyone caught using this exploit will be punished accordingly, as this can easily be tracked and verified in our logs." Pity they can't track or verify anything else.
Morvyn Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2009.08.25 18:49:00 - [38] Originally by: Mashashige Hello, my friend. Stay awhile and listen. Hardcore Diablo ftw c/d? Here to confirm that Deckard Cain is win.
Grumples McGee	Posted - 2009.08.25 19:02:00 - [39] Originally by: Molly Mischief You do keep up with intel, right? Or is that something else you feel should be nerfed? Postulate #1: PvP with full intel (local chat, ability to spot probes in local), jamming ability and fleet cyno makes for very low risk PvP. Postulate #2: PvP with no risk is the same as carebearing. Discuss.
Anti Viral	Posted - 2009.08.25 20:24:00 - [40] Posting in a Grumples McGee thread BECAUSE OF FALCON
Molly Mischief	Posted - 2009.08.25 21:00:00 - [41] Soooo, let me get this straight: Your problem is that all PvP should be high risk? Why on earth would a military force engage in high risk warfare? What purpose would it serve to get your @ss handed to you? Tactical planning is all about limiting risk, maximizing reward, and acting only when it benefits you. You idiots invariably complain when other players use tactical warfare to its fullest, rather than lazily can flipping noobs and gate camping the foolish. How about instead of nattering into a forum, you develop some counter strategies?
Taedrin Gallente The Space Bar South The Compass	Posted - 2009.08.26 03:01:00 - [42] Originally by: Bellum Eternus The ultimate insult: a Falcon with a cyno! \o/ Hooray for failures who can't win without ECM and caps dropped on single BS! Actually, I'm thinking of trying it myself. All the cool kids are doing it. A falcon tried to hotdrop a carrier on my Maelstrom once. Unfortunately, he discovered that because I was jammed, I couldn't shoot back at him. Which meant I could just slow boat back to the gate and jump after he faildropped his carrier. Moral of the story is that if you MUST attempt to hotdrop using a falcon at a gate, make sure your victim has aggression BEFORE you ECM and drop that cyno.
Athena Minoko Mean Corp	Posted - 2009.08.26 05:30:00 - [43] Originally by: Grumples McGee Originally by: Molly Mischief You do keep up with intel, right? Or is that something else you feel should be nerfed? Postulate #1: PvP with full intel (local chat, ability to spot probes in local), jamming ability and fleet cyno makes for very low risk PvP. Postulate #2: PvP with no risk is the same as carebearing. Discuss. NO U THIS IS GAME THIS SHALL BE DEALT WITH ---- Sig starts here --- "Anyone caught using this exploit will be punished accordingly, as this can easily be tracked and verified in our logs." Pity they can't track or verify anything else.
Baillif Red Mist Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.26 07:26:00 - [44] Mirror mirror on the wall Who's the lamest one of all? Spoiler alert: It' the OP
Grumples McGee	Posted - 2009.08.27 14:37:00 - [45] Originally by: Molly Mischief Tactical planning is all about limiting risk, maximizing reward, and acting only when it benefits you. Exactly! You get it. This is why insta-cynos are extremely bad for PvP and bad for the game: there is no way to predict whether or not someone has a cyno and a fleet backing them up. You can either go up, tackle them and hope a fleet doesn't drop on your head or you can scan them from a safe distance only to watch them warp off because they did not, in fact, have a cyno. There's no reasonable method of controlling this risk. Quote: How about instead of nattering into a forum, you develop some counter strategies? The only reasonable counter-strategy is to identify which alliances do hot drops and run anytime you see one of them in system. And additionally be suspicious of any unknown neuts, who could be cyno alts.
Radbagger Minmatar GH0ST BEARs	Posted - 2009.08.27 16:54:00 - [46] wow people are still compalining about falcons. Can this please stop. If you don't like them don't play then.
Stabby McStabberstein	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:34:00 - [47] Edited by: Stabby McStabberstein on 27/08/2009 21:34:08 Cynos because of FALCON 0_o
Msgerbs Gallente Imperial Assualt Guild Raikiri Assasins	Posted - 2009.08.29 06:56:00 - [48] Originally by: Xenophanes Colophon Ooh, how about widows jump bridging falcons with cynos fit? Am I the only one who LOL'd at this? "Isn't the Eiffel Tower an early prototype of a Minmatar Battleship?" --Illectroculus Defined
Fumen Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.08.29 07:45:00 - [49] Originally by: Artemis Rose Nobody tell the op about the falcon cyno'ing people in Too late. Someone already did.
Xenophanes Colophon	Posted - 2009.08.29 10:14:00 - [50] Originally by: Msgerbs Originally by: Xenophanes Colophon Ooh, how about widows jump bridging falcons with cynos fit? Am I the only one who LOL'd at this? Doubtful, this is what happens when people are unaware that there is a ship that can jam you worse than a falcon.

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