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Reverend Locke
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Posted - 2009.08.25 00:39:00 -
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Hello everyone. I've spent the last two hours trying to find a fitting for an exploration/site runner ship, but to no avail.
I'm looking for a ship, preferably Gallente, that I can use to probe down exploration sites, and then run them. It would save a lot of time spent swapping between ships.
Thanks in advance, I appreciate it.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.25 00:44:00 -
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proteus?
 Originally by: Akita T
Seriously ?
...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !
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Mskpath3
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Posted - 2009.08.25 00:46:00 -
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Edited by: Mskpath3 on 25/08/2009 00:46:26
I think the closest thing you're going to get is a Domi. Full BS-class damage as long as you have T2 heavy and T2 Sentry skills. Can field an absolutely monstrous tank (with Angels, only almost-monstrous). All high slots are basically open to whatever the hell you want.
God bless the Domi.
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Reverend Locke
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Posted - 2009.08.25 00:49:00 -
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Anything for 0.5 sec scans? I'm rather broke at the moment and since I can't afford to lose my scanning ship, well...don't fly what you can't afford to replace, right?
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: Zartanic on 25/08/2009 01:17:48
When I'm feeling lazy I just use my regular PVE ship, the Drake. I use sister probes and launcher but it has no scan bonus or rigs. I do notice the difference but its marginal.
I do go back if I need hacker or analyser though so its not strictly an all in one.
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Reverend Locke
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:16:00 -
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Hmm...that could work. Anyone ever run scans in a Myrm or something?
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Zartanic on 25/08/2009 01:21:30
Edited by: Zartanic on 25/08/2009 01:20:57
What you may want to try is run a scan in any ship to see how it goes, I think because of WH's its not that different. In WH's of course you must be able to scan anything without any rigs or the right ship bonus.
I may be wrong but check your races Marauder, the Caldari one (Golem) has a few spare slots. Of course that's very expensive which you said is no good:)
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Reverend Locke
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:21:00 -
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I just need to be able to fit a salvager, analyzer, etc. along with the probe launcher. That's why I'm leaning towards drone ships.
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:26:00 -
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Try the Kronos, only 1B isk:)
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Reverend Locke
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:27:00 -
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Oh is that all? Pfft, I'll get three!
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:35:00 -
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Edited by: XXSketchxx on 25/08/2009 01:35:35
Depends on what level of difficulty you're talking.
But basically, as others have noted, you're looking at drone ships (unless this is for WH exploration in which case its a whole separate ball game).
But your options are, in order of least effective to most effective:
vexor - low sp, high sec, some low sec exploration
myrm - low risk, can do a good deal of plexes but not the more difficult ones
domi - now we're talking, should be able to do most plexes
ishtar - used to be king IMO due to BS damage/tank but cruiser agility/speed)
PROTEUS - the new king of all around exploration (especially vs. gurista/serpentis)
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Reverend Locke
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:38:00 -
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Thanks, Sketch. I have a spare Myrm sitting around, so I'll look into fitting that.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:40:00 -
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Edited by: XXSketchxx on 25/08/2009 01:39:57
Originally by: Reverend Locke
Anything for 0.5 sec scans? I'm rather broke at the moment and since I can't afford to lose my scanning ship, well...don't fly what you can't afford to replace, right?
Here's a pretty simple and easy to fit setup to get you started:
[Hi Sec Low SP Explorer]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Codebreaker I
Analyzer I
10MN Afterburner II
Salvager I
Core Probe Launcher I,Core Scanner Probe I
Small Tractor Beam I
Drones_Active=Hammerhead I,5
Drones_Inactive=Hobgoblin I,5
As always, drop down to T1 where necessary, can swap EANMs for rat specific if you prefer a bit more tank but not really needed in most high secs.
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Reverend Locke
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:41:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Locke on 25/08/2009 01:41:18
Awesome. I'll send you a little reward for your troubles 
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Locke
Edited by: Reverend Locke on 25/08/2009 01:41:18
Awesome. I'll send you a little reward for your troubles
Haha np. No reward necessary. Though exotic dancers are always a nice treat...
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Irdia Freelancer
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:57:00 -
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To run sites I like:
tractor
salv
probe launcher
hack
analyse
cloak
Ecm (I want a chance to get away if I get jumped)
You can run a domi/ishtar/drake with those, but my scan skill not that great, plus when you pull tank out the mids, gets harder to run in something like the ishtar.
That leaves the new T3 ships which if you shop around have dropped to around 500 mil each with subs fitted. The advantage of T3 is you can still run around 600 dps tank on them, plus fit all the above. In my mind, a batleship doesn't cut it if your having escalations into low sec the battleship is too sluggish. The scan bonus of 10%/lvl on the T3 cruiser adds scan ability which matches the best cov-ops, plus can fit tank/dps to actually do sites.
I dont know if this is normal, but other weekend I went scanning in my shiny new T3 cruiser. I spent 6 hours doing sites in hi-sec for a return of about 80 mil - ie mission runing much better isk. I had an escalation into low sec, and since were 7 other sites in the system I decided to do some of the low sec sites. I did 4 sites in 2.5 hours and had about 180 mil from them. Seams the low sec gives much better than hi-sec in drops.
Prior to this I ran 2 ships, 1 cov-ops which scanned the sites and a 2nd char in an ishtar that did the sites. To me the T3 cruisr was a much easier option. If doing wh space you can slip in and crack the cans in a T3 cruiser and move to the next while mostly ignoring the sleepers. The T3 can run tractor range bonus, ie help pull those wrecks in from up to 40km - another good bonus.
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Reverend Locke
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Posted - 2009.08.25 02:04:00 -
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Well, I'm afraid I'd be several months away from flying a T3 cruiser effectively, so for the moment, that's outta my realm of possibility 
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Marguerite Antiki
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Posted - 2009.08.25 03:16:00 -
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Myrm works well as I do it - I also use a Arazu for when bored as it has a few med slots for the Codebreaker/ Analyzer etc.. They do the job well. Overall since your doing 0.5 the sites are not that big so a battlecruiser or a cruiser will do you fine.
Anythin else - IE if you go to 0.4 and lower you will need a good setup / ship to handle larger fleets.
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King Rothgar
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.08.25 04:50:00 -
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1) Myrmidon with no guns. High slots have salvagers, 1x tractor, probe launcher, cloak (low/null sec use). Mids: MWD, analyzer, codebreaker and cap rechargers. Lows: MAR II, DCII, 2x EANM II's, CPR II and a 1600mm RT plate for when you bite off more than you can chew. It's not a terribly efficient combat ship but it's great for radar and mag sites where the point is to hack into cans, not necessarily kill the rats guarding them. You don't normally need to kill all the rats to get into the cans so I just let my drones do their thing while I hack into them.
2) Dominix fitted exactly the same as the myrmidon. Same deal really, just bigger and more powerful. The downside is it's slower and that's a problem when hacking 16 cans that are 100km apart.
3) T3's are another option and should be fitted similarly. Obviously the probing electronics subsystem and drone offensive subsystems are going to be good ideas.
The myrmidon and domi above can't probe all sites, just some of the easier ones so a t3 is really better. However the ships above are dirt cheap to lose (note the lack of rigs) which is great if you do your plex hunting in low/null sec. One halfway decent site will pay for the insured myrmidon and still turn you a profit.
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aetherguy881
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.25 05:23:00 -
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The Myrm is a great exploration ship. Rig it with 2 gravity cap's and you're good to go. I run a decent armor tank, it could be better, but I'm keeping it cheap. I've yet to have the RADAR cans that are 100M apart, but I've had some longer distances as well.
The problem with the Domi is that many of the highsec plexes won't take a BS. I find the BC is somewhat constricted as well. I usually offer those sites (and their BM) to a corp mate if they want to run them.
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Canute Minealot
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Posted - 2009.08.25 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: King Rothgar
not necessarily kill the rats guarding them. You don't normally need to kill all the rats to get into the cans so I just let my drones do their thing while I hack into them.
You can hack the Can's, while the guards are there, but you can't open/loot it.
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Al Anders
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Posted - 2009.08.25 05:59:00 -
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Kick off MF PWNzor class. Can survive all and kick of everything (exept 5-6 class). Just keep salvager and looter in the backoff.
[Legion, WHaller Class 4]
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Damage Control II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Gistum B-Type 10MN Afterburner
Large Capacitor Battery II
Gallente Navy Stasis Webifier
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I
Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Nanobot Accelerator I
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
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Arthamel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.08.25 06:10:00 -
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For hi-sec I find ishkur quite nice ship. 4 highs provide everything you need fitted, 50m3 dronebay allows to fir 5 hobs + 5 warriors for diff dmg type and you can enter hi-sec plexes and pwn them without problems too (and only frigate/destroyer can enter those). No need for scan rigs, since now with good sister probes positioning you can get 100% sig on sites and wh with 1-4 au range, use nano pumps and nanite ones coz sometimes you need more tank.
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GoingOffRoading
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.25 07:58:00 -
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ishtar
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Babel
Boom and Bust Economics Ltd.
N0thing To See Here
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Locke
Anything for 0.5 sec scans? I'm rather broke at the moment and since I can't afford to lose my scanning ship, well...don't fly what you can't afford to replace, right?
Lachesis ? ...... lots of mids ... ?
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Bellac
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Posted - 2009.08.25 11:08:00 -
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As good as some of these ships are, IMHO an all round exploration vessel doesn't yet exist. None of these ships examples above have a hacking, analyser or salvage module fitted. these are surely 3 must have modules for a true exploration vessel?
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aftech
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:45:00 -
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i juse a scorpion for exploration,
it is not ideal but it works.
high 4x cruise 2 (tp) and salvager and probe launcher
mid anyl+codebraker targetpainter, and the rest for shield tanking
low, whatever you like for me 2 bcu and pdu
its has decent dps (not great) and a nice tank
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:50:00 -
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only ishtar - its best gallente and actually best in game solo/dual account plexing ship
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Reign O'Death
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Posted - 2009.08.25 13:51:00 -
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Personally, I think the only thing you should be able to find without a Cov Ops with scanning bonuses are those silly little complexs you cna find with the scanner.
I am just tired of seeing half done radars and and mag complexs, found by noobs with no arch or hacking skills. Sure it makes it really easy for me when I find them, but sometimes they sit for hours and respawning elsewhere.
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Imiarr Timshae
Caldari
Funny Men In Funny Hats
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Posted - 2009.08.25 14:06:00 -
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Exploration Ishtar :
High Slots :
Salvager I
Tractor Beam
Sisters Core Probe Launcher
Civilian Gatling Railgun
Empty Slot
Med slots
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Codebreaker II or Analyzer II
Low Slots
Beta Reactor Control - Shield Power Relay
Beta Reactor Control - Shield Power Relay
Beta Reactor Control - Shield Power Relay
Beta Reactor Control - Shield Power Relay
Beta Reactor Control - Shield Power Relay
Rigs
Medium Core Defence Field Purger
Medium Core Defence Field Purger
Drone Bay
Ogre II x 5
Guarde II x 5
Hammerhead II x 5
Hobgoblin II x 5
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