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Covert Kitty
SRS Industries
SRS.
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Posted - 2011.09.24 18:06:00 -
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Before the highsec highways were implemented you could only travel between the empires via lowsec, and Yulai was the main hub. Personally I'd like to see some increased connectivity between the empires (maintain the # of jumps required), but the elimination of pure highsec routes.
Alternatively it might be cool to create a security "tide" where systems rise and fall in their status, causing empire highsec connectivity to cycle between highsec and lowsec (performed at downtime). I really wish incursions caused sansha gatecamps in highsec, wasted opportunity to mix things up a bit.
Such changes would increase the importance of the regional hubs, as well as provide some additional gameplay features. |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
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Posted - 2011.09.26 15:56:00 -
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To buy out Jita would only reinforce it as more people dumped their money in.
You'd need to do a few things to "kill" Jita.
#1 Find/Create a more centralized - time efficient hub.
#2 Find another place players gather together in sufficient quantities to warrant attracting the necessary population
#3 Proximity to the null sec areas providing the most Moon Goo for T2 manufacturing.
Most of Jita's purpose in the market is as a central source for T2 materials for T2 components and ships. It's practically impossible to find T2 materials in other trade hubs at reasonable prices. The rest of the items that find their way onto the Jita market usually get bought and moved to other trade hubs/mission hubs in volume, since prices are pushed down so heavily by bulk sales.
Jita is the warehouse for EVE, essentially. The meta market is pretty relevant for Jita since most mission runners in proximity to Jita just sell their goods there. And T1 goods just don't get any cheaper. The mineral market is an index and leads the rest of EVE, but that's because it's centralized there from other T2 goods and materials having found their primary purpose there. In the end it's more efficient to go to one place.
Jita is all about volume, so without that volume you can't have Jita.
What I would propose would happen is that any sharp industrialists would create a new "Industrial One-Stop" at a position closer to a low sec entry point to facilitate Jump Freighters and Carriers moving goods around. Jita is inordinately far from most low sec. Jita was also established before JF's even existed.
The hub would most likely stay in the Caldari area because it has the highest native population and a a new caldari hub would be needed. I'd think it would move a noticeable amount closer to a low sec entry point and still have enough factory slots to work out in the area.
Niyabainen would be the conservative choice...
Ikao would be my "move noticeably closer to low sec" choice.
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Elloise Kashada
Odyssey Inc
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:02:00 -
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Jita is 4 jumps away from lowsec Passari.
I love to buy stuff in Jita, move it elsewhere and make profit, please don`t change anything, thanks. |
Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:29:00 -
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Elloise Kashada wrote:Jita is 4 jumps away from lowsec Passari.
I love to buy stuff in Jita, move it elsewhere and make profit, please don`t change anything, thanks.
Don't worry, Jita isn't going ANYWHERE. This is merely a "what-if" scenario. CCP has already invested a large amount of money into the Jita Supernode, and oh so many developer hours cracking down on lag in Jita.
Unless, of course, someone actually DOES want to spend a couple dozen billion ISK suicide ganking every one who enters/exits the system for a month. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2011.09.27 17:26:00 -
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I always thought that if a group of players wanted to try and kill the Jita hub the way to do it would be to hold Jita Disco Parties. Have several people warp to the Jita 4-4 undock in disco BSs and fire them all off. Do it over and over until people go elsewhere.
Elsewhere would most likely be the other hubs, and maybe a new one near Jita. How about Sobasiki?
If CCP wanted to kill trade hubs, the way to do it would be to not allow anyone to set more than 5 orders in a station unless they rent a store front. Store fronts would be in limited supply and have increasing costs as more got used in any given solar system.
As one with a Jita trader alt, I hate that idea. And its so non-sandbox.
CCP employees should never proclaim a feature to be awesome. Only subscribers should. |
Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:26:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I always thought that if a group of players wanted to try and kill the Jita hub the way to do it would be to hold Jita Disco Parties. Have several people warp to the Jita 4-4 undock in disco BSs and fire them all off. Do it over and over until people go elsewhere.
As far as I know, smartbombs do not work within the vicinity of any station's undock ramp. You would have to kill stuff on the gates. |
Alain Kinsella
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Posted - 2011.09.28 09:57:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:If CCP wanted to kill trade hubs, the way to do it would be to not allow anyone to set more than 5 orders in a station unless they rent a store front. Store fronts would be in limited supply and have increasing costs as more got used in any given solar system.
As one with a Jita trader alt, I hate that idea. And its so non-sandbox.
That also breaks all the 'remote orders' skills.
What would likely (hopefully?) happen with the storefront is that it would just act like a Corp Office. So with the right skills you'd just need it anywhere in the region.
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Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
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Posted - 2011.09.29 06:25:00 -
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Taedrin wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:I always thought that if a group of players wanted to try and kill the Jita hub the way to do it would be to hold Jita Disco Parties. Have several people warp to the Jita 4-4 undock in disco BSs and fire them all off. Do it over and over until people go elsewhere.
As far as I know, smartbombs do not work within the vicinity of any station's undock ramp. You would have to kill stuff on the gates.
Smartbombs dont work within 5KM of any Stargate, Station, Acceleration gate.
However, the range of BS Smarbombs can reach up to 5.5KM, so they can actually hit past the mark.
For stations, it just depends on how far the undock point is from the 5KM point - for some stations that can be very close to the edge, or some it is 50km from that 5km edge point.
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
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Posted - 2011.09.30 07:42:00 -
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CCP Spitfire wrote:We don't have any plans to kill Jita, but this discussion is nonetheless really interesting. 
OK, so how about making it 0.4 sec for say...a month 
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Red Teufel
Blackened Skies
THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2011.09.30 15:50:00 -
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in theory there will always be a jita. not matter what you do. even if you say limited to sell/buy orders to office holders of that station. you will still end up with a jita. however if they did do this you might see a little bit more equality when it comes to the desribution of wealth. i might also add you will see mega indi corps emerge. no longer will traders wish to trade solo they will need to work with other people. of course this is all falacy since i have no facts to back any of this up. |
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Infinimo
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:28:00 -
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snipe
delete jita IMO |
malfoy
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.01 14:35:00 -
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we could smart bomb the gates.................. |
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