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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.10.14 19:33:00 -
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I was going to install Suse 9.1 but the darn computer seems to reboot every time about halfway through the install. The problem I think is that cpu seems to go nuts, the computer overheats and shuts down. I was going to dualboot my computer (I still need Windows for EVE ).
I need something that is not completely do it yourself. I have some linux experience but I am by no means an expert so what do you guys recommend. __________ Capacitor research |

Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.10.14 19:33:00 -
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I was going to install Suse 9.1 but the darn computer seems to reboot every time about halfway through the install. The problem I think is that cpu seems to go nuts, the computer overheats and shuts down. I was going to dualboot my computer (I still need Windows for EVE ).
I need something that is not completely do it yourself. I have some linux experience but I am by no means an expert so what do you guys recommend. __________ Capacitor research |

Avon
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Posted - 2004.10.14 20:28:00 -
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Hmmm...
I like SuSe, but it can be a bit flakey.
Give Gentoo a go, or failing that Debian.
Both are cool.
If you want easy, go with Mandrake - it tends to be very compatible with most hardware. ______________________________________________
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.10.14 20:28:00 -
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Hmmm...
I like SuSe, but it can be a bit flakey.
Give Gentoo a go, or failing that Debian.
Both are cool.
If you want easy, go with Mandrake - it tends to be very compatible with most hardware. ______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |

Skinnerer
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Posted - 2004.10.14 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Hmmm... If you want easy, go with Mandrake - it tends to be very compatible with most hardware.
If you want hard, but educational, I heard that Slackware works well. "As close to Unix as ?nix" get, or so they say. I tried it, but my ignorant and feeble mind failed to grasp its brilliance, or summat.
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Skinnerer
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Posted - 2004.10.14 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Hmmm... If you want easy, go with Mandrake - it tends to be very compatible with most hardware.
If you want hard, but educational, I heard that Slackware works well. "As close to Unix as ?nix" get, or so they say. I tried it, but my ignorant and feeble mind failed to grasp its brilliance, or summat.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.10.14 21:11:00 -
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I heard slackware is IKEA of operating system, that is very much do it yourself. Sadly I keep mixing it up with mandrake in my head which has always kind of put me off mandrake. Will definitly look at it now though. __________ Capacitor research |

Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.10.14 21:11:00 -
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I heard slackware is IKEA of operating system, that is very much do it yourself. Sadly I keep mixing it up with mandrake in my head which has always kind of put me off mandrake. Will definitly look at it now though. __________ Capacitor research |

Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.10.15 07:40:00 -
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I'd recommend Slackware or Gentoo. I'd not recommend any distro based on RedHat.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.10.15 07:40:00 -
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I'd recommend Slackware or Gentoo. I'd not recommend any distro based on RedHat.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.10.15 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dust Puppy I heard slackware is IKEA of operating system, that is very much do it yourself.
It is. Be prepaired to read a lot of man pages and HOWTO:s.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.10.15 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dust Puppy I heard slackware is IKEA of operating system, that is very much do it yourself.
It is. Be prepaired to read a lot of man pages and HOWTO:s.
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Schroni
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Posted - 2004.10.15 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn I'd recommend Slackware or Gentoo. I'd not recommend any distro based on RedHat.
what he said + Debian is nice too
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Schroni
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Posted - 2004.10.15 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn I'd recommend Slackware or Gentoo. I'd not recommend any distro based on RedHat.
what he said + Debian is nice too
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.10.15 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: Schroni Debian is nice too
I haven't tried it, but I've only heard good stuff about it so if I tried it I'd probably recommend it.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.10.15 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: Schroni Debian is nice too
I haven't tried it, but I've only heard good stuff about it so if I tried it I'd probably recommend it.
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ninjakitten
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Posted - 2004.10.15 10:45:00 -
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just cos ive been trying out a few newish distros recently to see if theres anything better than my beloved debian ill put my oar in and give some recomendations of some less well known ones
ubuntu
ubuntu is debian based and very user friendly for those wishing to try debian out that may get put off by debians installer. Pros include being able to recomend to serious beardy IT people to download "The Warty Warthog" Release Candidate and then wonder why the names of some of these distros put people off trying linux
yoper
yoper is another user friendly distro. good updates via APT / Synaptic and its blisteringly fast. especially on old hardware. this one is well worth a look
also knoppix for those that dont know it runs off the cd itself so doesnt install on the hd. Probably the most usefull tool any IT bod can have in his toolbox and good for messing about on linux before installing anything. You can also install this one to the hd if you really want too.
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ninjakitten
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Posted - 2004.10.15 10:45:00 -
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just cos ive been trying out a few newish distros recently to see if theres anything better than my beloved debian ill put my oar in and give some recomendations of some less well known ones
ubuntu
ubuntu is debian based and very user friendly for those wishing to try debian out that may get put off by debians installer. Pros include being able to recomend to serious beardy IT people to download "The Warty Warthog" Release Candidate and then wonder why the names of some of these distros put people off trying linux
yoper
yoper is another user friendly distro. good updates via APT / Synaptic and its blisteringly fast. especially on old hardware. this one is well worth a look
also knoppix for those that dont know it runs off the cd itself so doesnt install on the hd. Probably the most usefull tool any IT bod can have in his toolbox and good for messing about on linux before installing anything. You can also install this one to the hd if you really want too.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:12:00 -
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I'm kind of liking this gentoo distro more and more. It's looks like a decent distro and you seem to learn a lot about your system when installing it. The only problem is that I would love to have the install guide accessible when I install but it's over 100 pages long so it will be a pain to print out. __________ Capacitor research |

Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:12:00 -
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I'm kind of liking this gentoo distro more and more. It's looks like a decent distro and you seem to learn a lot about your system when installing it. The only problem is that I would love to have the install guide accessible when I install but it's over 100 pages long so it will be a pain to print out. __________ Capacitor research |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.10.15 20:15:00 -
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Personally, after years of trying different distros (slack, deb, redhat, suse, turbo, mandrake) I settled for gentoo. Running 64-bit version of it right now. Gentoo is source based distro, meaning you have to compile everything from source, but in return you can set it up as you want. Set up is very easy, if you follow docs provided at gentoo site.
If you don't want to wait for compiles, I'd recommed slackware or debian. Stay away from redhat variants tho. --
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.10.15 20:15:00 -
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Personally, after years of trying different distros (slack, deb, redhat, suse, turbo, mandrake) I settled for gentoo. Running 64-bit version of it right now. Gentoo is source based distro, meaning you have to compile everything from source, but in return you can set it up as you want. Set up is very easy, if you follow docs provided at gentoo site.
If you don't want to wait for compiles, I'd recommed slackware or debian. Stay away from redhat variants tho. --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.10.15 21:21:00 -
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What's with all the RedHat bashing. We used to use it in school and it worked out fine,... well there a few problems but it got the job done, that is until we installed RedHat 8.0 that was just evil  __________ Capacitor research |

Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.10.15 21:21:00 -
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What's with all the RedHat bashing. We used to use it in school and it worked out fine,... well there a few problems but it got the job done, that is until we installed RedHat 8.0 that was just evil  __________ Capacitor research |

Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.10.16 00:40:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 16/10/2004 00:43:39 * After some time trying to customize a redhat distro, it was like using a windows machine : The more you changed, the worse it got. I don't have that problem with the other distros.
* RedHat distros have their own tools for everything, so you learn basically nothing about linux - once you learn redhat, you're stuck with redhat.
* What's up with all these "linux books" with a lot of extremely redhat specific stuff? If it's a redhat book, then say it's a book about redhat, not a book about linux.
* Once you start getting used to the tools in redhat and want to change anything there isn't a tool available for, you are in hell because you have no idea what you are supposed to do, and definitely no idea how.
* Redhat have released unstable kernel versions in their full release packages. I don't know if they still do it, but it's definitely one of the reasons I really really dislike them.
There are more reasons, but it was a long time ago I used redhat so I've happily forgotten about them I think 
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.10.16 00:40:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 16/10/2004 00:43:39 * After some time trying to customize a redhat distro, it was like using a windows machine : The more you changed, the worse it got. I don't have that problem with the other distros.
* RedHat distros have their own tools for everything, so you learn basically nothing about linux - once you learn redhat, you're stuck with redhat.
* What's up with all these "linux books" with a lot of extremely redhat specific stuff? If it's a redhat book, then say it's a book about redhat, not a book about linux.
* Once you start getting used to the tools in redhat and want to change anything there isn't a tool available for, you are in hell because you have no idea what you are supposed to do, and definitely no idea how.
* Redhat have released unstable kernel versions in their full release packages. I don't know if they still do it, but it's definitely one of the reasons I really really dislike them.
There are more reasons, but it was a long time ago I used redhat so I've happily forgotten about them I think 
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.10.16 02:10:00 -
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Well the main reasons I hate redhat are following:
- they rewrite perfectly good software to "redhat" version of it, and stick to non-mainstream way of doing things (aka redhat way).
- RPM. awful thing. Ever tried to install something that didn't come with redhat distro? Download rpm from rpmfind.net and all hell breaks loose. You have dependencies that force you to install new packages so that you can install the one you're looking for, but those new rpms brake down some already installed stuff. Then you do update after a while, and discover that all those rpms are in the way, so they get overwritten. In few months you have broken down system. --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.10.16 02:10:00 -
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Well the main reasons I hate redhat are following:
- they rewrite perfectly good software to "redhat" version of it, and stick to non-mainstream way of doing things (aka redhat way).
- RPM. awful thing. Ever tried to install something that didn't come with redhat distro? Download rpm from rpmfind.net and all hell breaks loose. You have dependencies that force you to install new packages so that you can install the one you're looking for, but those new rpms brake down some already installed stuff. Then you do update after a while, and discover that all those rpms are in the way, so they get overwritten. In few months you have broken down system. --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.10.16 02:42:00 -
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I remember that rpm problem. I hated it...
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.10.16 02:42:00 -
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I remember that rpm problem. I hated it...
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