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Shining Tears Caldari The DARLEXS	Posted - 2009.08.25 20:41:00 - [1] anyone have setup that makes this ship usable been on eft for a while and cant seem to find a pvp setup does anyone have one?
Kurfin	Posted - 2009.08.25 21:05:00 - [2] 1 Bill worth of faction BS kinda screams shoot me. I can see why it would be useful in a gang, but you will probably be primaried and killed pretty quickly. If I had huge piles of isk, Neuts in the highs, MWD, ECCM and possibly cap mods in the mids and as much tank as you can fit in the lows, CCC rigs in the lows.
Kurfin	Posted - 2009.08.25 21:20:00 - [3] After playing with eft myself, it seems a bit short on cpu. Are you sure you don't want a nightmare?
LordInvisible Gallente GK inc.	Posted - 2009.08.25 22:12:00 - [4] u really need at least 3bil worth of fittings on this monster to take it worthwhile.. meaining u need at least core x-type LARs with t2 rigs for reppage and some nice EANMs to go along. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We are recruting: Recruitment
Soi Mala	Posted - 2009.08.25 22:21:00 - [5] Meh, its only a bil ffs, what makes you think fittings should be worth more than a ship? Are all your other fittings like that? lol I'd be quite happy flying one mildly pimped... the following setup isn't too pricey, and will soak up quite a bit when used in a remote rep gang. Great for taking down capitals etc. Been considering getting one for a while, only to be used when catching caps off station, or in any situation where you can deaggress and get out etc. As with anything pricey, you just need to know what you're doing. Throwing isk at an expensive ship is not gonna lead to a sure victory. [Bhaalgorn, New Setup 1] Damage Control II Heat Sink II Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Dark Blood Adaptive Nano Plating Dark Blood Adaptive Nano Plating 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Warp Disruptor II Gallente Navy Stasis Webifier Gallente Navy Stasis Webifier Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Hammerhead II x5 Not stellar in the dps department, roughly 400-450 i think, but considering you have such hefty neuting power, and dual 20km+ webs, you can be sure anything that can hold you down won't stay there for long.
LordInvisible Gallente GK inc.	Posted - 2009.08.25 22:34:00 - [6] try at least this then so u dont just provide with comedy killmail.. [Bhaalgorn, New Setup 1] Damage Control II Amarr Navy Heat Sink Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Coreli C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Gallente Navy Stasis Webifier Gallente Navy Stasis Webifier Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Hammerhead II x2 Ogre II x2 Warrior II x1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We are recruting: Recruitment
fmercury NibbleTek	Posted - 2009.08.25 22:34:00 - [7] 4/5 neuts, two webs, use all the lowslots for a passive tank. No heat sinks, please. Let other people worry about dps.
Shining Tears Caldari The DARLEXS	Posted - 2009.08.25 22:35:00 - [8] not to bad, and considering no ship makes you safe.. plus you have to realize that its a game and not take it to serious lol but saying this more seems like a ship that you just have to show off anyone else have a setup?
LordInvisible Gallente GK inc.	Posted - 2009.08.25 22:43:00 - [9] well, u gonna solo or gang? coz gang is mainly u do the neuting work and soaking up the dps, but solo u have to do some dps to.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We are recruting: Recruitment
fmercury NibbleTek	Posted - 2009.08.25 22:44:00 - [10] Edited by: fmercury on 25/08/2009 22:45:45 ^^ Soloing in a 2 billion isk blob magnet, not for me [Bhaalgorn, New Setup 1] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Centii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating (For being RRed, without RRs, a fouth 1600 provides more EHP) Centii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Centii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Interior Force Field Array Gallente Navy Stasis Webifier Gallente Navy Stasis Webifier Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Gist X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer (Upgrade these to officer if you're a pimp) Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Valkyrie II x5 And HG slaves, of course.
Ecky X	Posted - 2009.08.25 23:15:00 - [11] Originally by: fmercury Edited by: fmercury on 25/08/2009 22:46:15 Interior Force Field Array That's a named basic damage control. Fit an internal force field array and save on CPU elsewhere.
Thingymawotzit	Posted - 2009.08.26 06:10:00 - [12] FAILFAILFAIL! If you getting a bhaalgorn at least do it right. Ok here we have a setup that is proven to work very well 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Internal Force Field Array I Domination 100MN MicroWarpdrive Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier Domination Stasis Webifier Heavy Capacitor Booster II,Cap Booster 800 Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I This fits with 1 cpu to spare. Very good for killing caps but is useful in any situation. Nos are for cap stability and should not be used on the primary target which is being neuted. Also if you have slaves you will have over 100,000 armor HP. Thats more than any other BS i know of. Certainly will not go down easy in fleet fight as someone earlier suggested.
LordInvisible Gallente GK inc.	Posted - 2009.08.26 10:04:00 - [13] OMG.. 1. above setup doesnt neary have 100k of armor! With HG slaves and t1 trimarks i get 83k of armor, 96k of armor if i have dedicated fleet booster with lvl5 leadership skills and armored link in its head. 2. with 1bil worth of ship i'm sure u can muster an additional 100mil for a a-type adaptive plating..thus can fit 3rd heavy nos and t2 damage control, netting a 50k ehp increase. 3. this ship is so slow and fat, u sure u need mwd? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We are recruting: Recruitment
Pippan Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2009.08.26 10:22:00 - [14] Edited by: Pippan on 26/08/2009 10:26:00 I have to agree with Thingymawotzit on this one. The bhaal is such an awesome neuting ships that you really need 6-8 hvy navy neuts. Can pop a couple Med Nos on to feed your cap a bit. [Bhaalgorn, New Setup 1] Internal Force Field Array I Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 100MN Digital Booster Rockets Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier Domination Stasis Webifier Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I This might be a bit too pimped actually but the cpu is reeeaally tight on this boat. Also not sure if to roll slaves or talisman. Edit: Can you even get the digital boosters ingame ? ------ Every time you kill a Falcon a kitten is saved. Please, save the kittens.
NaBeRa DRUCKWELLE Evolution The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.08.26 10:36:00 - [15] [Bhaalgorn, RR BS] Amarr Navy Armor EM Hardener Amarr Navy Armor Thermic Hardener Amarr Navy Armor Kinetic Hardener Amarr Navy Armor Explosive Hardener Corpii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Gist A-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive Amarr Navy Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800 Domination Stasis Webifier Domination Warp Disruptor Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Nosferatu Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction Amarr Navy Heavy Nosferatu Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5
LordInvisible Gallente GK inc.	Posted - 2009.08.26 10:53:00 - [16] guys.. SOLO work.. not all of us like to fly in blobing gangs, ganking lonely ratters in 0.0.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We are recruting: Recruitment
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2009.08.26 10:58:00 - [17] Originally by: Pippan Edit: Can you even get the digital boosters ingame ? Yes, I have a 10mn on my Ashimmu. You get them from COSMOS exploration. www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.quafeultra.com ò Buy a GTC
Mova B	Posted - 2009.08.26 11:01:00 - [18] [Bhaalgorn, Gang Support] Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Capacitor Power Relay II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer Egress Port Maximizer I Egress Port Maximizer I Egress Port Maximizer I This is what my friend has been flying in lowsec in the past. Not solo obviously. Support ship for gang, they usually had two Guardians along them and some domis with RR. I have seen it in action (pure sex...) and all neuts will run with max cap skills (you really want those if you wanna fly this baby) for over 4 minutes, wich is more than enough for any low sec pirate roaming fight. This takes 7200 units of cap from single battleship in first cycle, next cycle brings it capless, even if he has cap booster. The T2 heavy neuts do the same thing, but the range is smaller. 188k EHP armor with HG Slave set (he is rich bastard), without it 138k ehp wich is enough in most times for Guardians to get reps on you.
fmercury NibbleTek	Posted - 2009.08.26 11:20:00 - [19] Originally by: LordInvisible guys.. SOLO work.. not all of us like to fly in blobing gangs, ganking lonely ratters in 0.0.. He never said solo. And this is a pretty ******ed ship to solo in.
LordInvisible Gallente GK inc.	Posted - 2009.08.26 12:36:00 - [20] Originally by: fmercury Originally by: LordInvisible guys.. SOLO work.. not all of us like to fly in blobing gangs, ganking lonely ratters in 0.0.. He never said solo. And this is a pretty ******ed ship to solo in. Why?u can have damage, tank and tackle, so slots layout isnt problem. U dont need OMFGWTFBBQ damage, because u will demolish opponents active tank pretty fast with two heavy neuts. its great solo ship, u just need to invest more tehn t2 mods and t2 rigs..afterall, u dont fit a titan with t2 cap recharger, do u? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We are recruting: Recruitment
adriaans Amarr Ankaa.	Posted - 2009.08.26 13:04:00 - [21] Originally by: LordInvisible Originally by: fmercury Originally by: LordInvisible guys.. SOLO work.. not all of us like to fly in blobing gangs, ganking lonely ratters in 0.0.. He never said solo. And this is a pretty ****ed ship to solo in. Why?u can have damage, tank and tackle, so slots layout isnt problem. U dont need OMFGWTFBBQ damage, because u will demolish opponents active tank pretty fast with two heavy neuts. its great solo ship, u just need to invest more tehn t2 mods and t2 rigs..afterall, u dont fit a titan with t2 cap recharger, do u? looking at many titan losses, several do actually while this ship certainly can solo, it IS far superior as a gang support ship. and yeah you need to use quite a bit of isk to make that cpu cut it -sig- Support the introduction of Blaze crystals for Amarr! Originally by:** UMEE if ure another fotm re-roller, then dont pvp. you'll fail. QFT!
Jin Entres Malevolent Intervention	Posted - 2009.08.26 13:36:00 - [22] [Bhaalgorn, YOU SHALL NOT PASS THE SALT] Internal Force Field Array I Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Amarr Navy Large Armor Repairer 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I True Sansha Stasis Webifier True Sansha Stasis Webifier Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I, Optimal Range Disruption Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 100MN Afterburner II Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x3 Needs a 5% turret CPU implant. Has 184K EHP without slaves, does 430 DPS and the rep tank tank ~330 overheated. The TD is a perfect complement to the webs imo: you can hover at 20km where by using TD you force lasers to use Scorch (or some stupid pilots may not even switch and do f all damage with MF), reduce blaster damage to insignificance and AC damage to about 40% (with Barrage). This only leaves you vulnerable to torps against which the AB should reduce some damage (and if it's a raven, chances are it's either active tank in which case it will get ****d by the neuts or you can simply damage race it with the damage type advantage of lasers). ----------------------
Kendon Riddick	Posted - 2009.08.26 14:19:00 - [23] Originally by: Jin Entres The TD is a perfect complement to the webs imo: you can hover at 20km where by using TD you force lasers to use Scorch (or some stupid pilots may not even switch and do f all damage with MF), reduce blaster damage to insignificance and AC damage to about 40% (with Barrage). This only leaves you vulnerable to torps against which the AB should reduce some damage (and if it's a raven, chances are it's either active tank in which case it will get ****d by the neuts or you can simply damage race it with the damage type advantage of lasers). sounds an awful lot like your on about solo/1v1 type fights... (no piont?)
Jin Entres Malevolent Intervention	Posted - 2009.08.26 14:41:00 - [24] Originally by: Kendon Rid** Originally by:** Jin Entres The TD is a perfect complement to the webs imo: you can hover at 20km where by using TD you force lasers to use Scorch (or some stupid pilots may not even switch and do f all damage with MF), reduce blaster damage to insignificance and AC damage to about 40% (with Barrage). This only leaves you vulnerable to torps against which the AB should reduce some damage (and if it's a raven, chances are it's either active tank in which case it will get ****d by the neuts or you can simply damage race it with the damage type advantage of lasers). sounds an awful lot like your on about solo/1v1 type fights... (no piont?) Yeah. The more people in the gang, the less you gain from flying a faction ship tbh and if you go into bigger engagements, you'll get primaried a lot so I'd only fly faction ships in solo / small gangs myself. And yeah wow what a brainfart to exclude a point there. I guess the AB has to be ditched. ----------------------
miss Hail	Posted - 2009.08.26 15:07:00 - [25] Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Domination Warp Disruptor Heavy Capacitor Booster II,Cap Booster 800 Dark Blood Stasis Webifier Dark Blood Stasis Webifier Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I 800mm Repeating Artillery II,Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II,Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II,Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II,Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II,Republic Fleet EMP L Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Hammerhead II,5 Warrior II,5 237k EHP 355k with slaves 431k EHP with command + slaves :D 400 dps
fmercury NibbleTek	Posted - 2009.08.26 22:49:00 - [26] Originally by: LordInvisible Originally by: fmercury Originally by: LordInvisible guys.. SOLO work.. not all of us like to fly in blobing gangs, ganking lonely ratters in 0.0.. He never said solo. And this is a pretty ******ed ship to solo in. Why?u can have damage, tank and tackle, so slots layout isnt problem. U dont need OMFGWTFBBQ damage, because u will demolish opponents active tank pretty fast with two heavy neuts. its great solo ship, u just need to invest more tehn t2 mods and t2 rigs..afterall, u dont fit a titan with t2 cap recharger, do u? Yeah, cause active tanks are so incredibly common. Passive tanks definitely aren't the standard in pvp, almost nobody uses them. Bhaalgorn is a specialty ship. It's for dropping on people that you know are going to have a good active tank, or disrupting RR chains. If you want to drop 2 billion on a solo ship there are a lot better options.
Thingymawotzit	Posted - 2009.08.27 04:21:00 - [27] Originally by: LordInvisible OMG.. 1. above setup doesnt neary have 100k of armor! With HG slaves and t1 trimarks i get 83k of armor, 96k of armor if i have dedicated fleet booster with lvl5 leadership skills and armored link in its head. 2. with 1bil worth of ship i'm sure u can muster an additional 100mil for a a-type adaptive plating..thus can fit 3rd heavy nos and t2 damage control, netting a 50k ehp increase. 3. this ship is so slow and fat, u sure u need mwd? LOLOLOL! I fly this ship. I own one with said fittings. I know i have 105,000 armor when in fleet 90,000 when not. SO STFU tbh. BTW changing to a-type adaptive plating will not increase ehp at all. It is the same as fitting amarr navy when u have resists skills to lvl 5. Changing damage control may increase ehp by 5k at most so STFU. In regards to MWD - Yes you do need it for bumping and for chasing down stuff to web it and also to re-approach gates for rr etc. Also this ship is NOT a solo ship. You obviously dont own one and for a good reason if you ever wanted to solo with it. Whenever i fly mine it has attracted blobs fairly quickly. The only thing that will save you from said blob is neuting the tackler. At the end of the day it does no DPS. It is designed for neuting and webbing and it does that better than any other ship.

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