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Phreeze Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.26 05:18:00 - [1] Simple enough: Change the standing system to allow only five +10 slots, and five +5 slots.
Isaac Starstriker Amarr Smegnet Incorporated Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.08.26 05:20:00 - [2] Eff no. We like having friends thank you. --Isaac Isaac's Haul*Mart - Closed
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange	Posted - 2009.08.26 06:14:00 - [3] I don't even know where to begin on this. Do you really think this will have any effect in practice? It'll just make people use out-of-game tools to compensate for an inadequate in-game interface even more than they already do. This proposal is bad, and you should feel bad.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre	Posted - 2009.08.26 06:28:00 - [4] Originally by: Phreeze Simple enough: Change the standing system to allow only five +10 slots, and five +5 slots. What the hell? ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
Kesper North Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire	Posted - 2009.08.26 06:48:00 - [5] +1 to "I accidentally the whole NC" -- Killed me? Read about it in my blog! Northern Lights: Solo PVP in EVE Online
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2009.08.26 07:28:00 - [6] Edited by: Omara Otawan on 26/08/2009 07:30:00 Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto I don't even know where to begin on this. Do you really think this will have any effect in practice? It'll just make people use out-of-game tools to compensate for an inadequate in-game interface even more than they already do. Out of game tools to get those nice blue icons back in their local window? I'm intrigued... OP idea is certainly not a solution, I'm thinking more about some kind of fee to resolve the issue. Say 1mill isk per member and week if you want to set an entity blue.
Cyrus Doul Nictus Astartes	Posted - 2009.08.26 08:13:00 - [7] have you looked at razors blue list recently?
Orion GUardian Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.26 10:33:00 - [8] perhaps you should give a reason.
Exlegion Caldari Salva Veritate	Posted - 2009.08.26 11:23:00 - [9] I have never understood what is the drive behind forcing alliances from forming diplomatic relationships between each other. Eve is a game where building diplomacy also matters greatly. If an alliance builds its empire based on political relations alone that itself is quite an accomplishment. It doesn't always have to be by the gun. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr
Cyberman Mastermind	Posted - 2009.08.26 11:32:00 - [10] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto I don't even know where to begin on this. Do you really think this will have any effect in practice? It'll just make people use out-of-game tools to compensate for an inadequate in-game interface even more than they already do. This proposal is bad, and you should feel bad. Quoted for emphasis.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.08.26 11:50:00 - [11] Originally by: Phreeze Simple enough: Change the standing system to allow only five +10 slots, and five +5 slots. While your proposal certainly is simple enough, it offers absolutely no reasoning WHY this should be changed. I mean, hell I can come up with random proposals with no reasons. Go back and try again. A little background on the supposed problem this will fix might help. --Vel Jesus loves you. Everyone else thinks you're an asshat.
Larkonis TrassIer Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate	Posted - 2009.08.26 13:08:00 - [12] While it would be hilarious I also say no. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator
sue AGPlant Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.08.26 13:13:00 - [13] omfg yes whole heartedly agree not sure if 10 is the right number but it definetly needs a slap hard CCP: destroying the game we love 1 nerf at a time.
Builder Robert	Posted - 2009.08.26 13:18:00 - [14] Originally by: Omara Otawan Edited by: Omara Otawan on 26/08/2009 07:30:00 OP idea is certainly not a solution, I'm thinking more about some kind of fee to resolve the issue. Say 1mill isk per member and week if you want to set an entity blue. Do you pay for your friends?
Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic	Posted - 2009.08.26 13:36:00 - [15] Silly idea. No support. ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange	Posted - 2009.08.26 15:09:00 - [16] Originally by: Omara Otawan Edited by: Omara Otawan on 26/08/2009 07:30:00 Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto I don't even know where to begin on this. Do you really think this will have any effect in practice? It'll just make people use out-of-game tools to compensate for an inadequate in-game interface even more than they already do. Out of game tools to get those nice blue icons back in their local window? I'm intrigued... I don't know of any out-of-game tools to mod your overview. I assume someone's coded one, but that sort of thing is strongly banned by the EULA. No, I'm thinking simpler - put your standings list into a webpage and have it open off to the side.
sue AGPlant Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.08.26 15:20:00 - [17] website off to the side while you check standings. this makes me want this even more imagine the lols wait dont shoot me yet check your standings website.boom hmm a nutral ratter in a belt lets see.. nope not there someone tack...DAMNIT diplomats quiting left right and center over all the "friendly fire" incidents they are trying to smoothe over ohh the chaos sweet sweet chaos CCP: destroying the game we love 1 nerf at a time.
darius mclever	Posted - 2009.08.26 15:47:00 - [18] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto I don't even know where to begin on this. Do you really think this will have any effect in practice? It'll just make people use out-of-game tools to compensate for an inadequate in-game interface even more than they already do. This proposal is bad, and you should feel bad. this tbh.
Gaelan Lionhardt Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.08.26 17:09:00 - [19] Obviously proposed to fit personal needs and without contemplating negative effects Un-supported
Pian Shu Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Tread Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.26 18:40:00 - [20] If you want to prevent people from having lots of allies, you need to create a game mechanic that discourages them from being friendly with each other. This proposal certainly won't do it. As has been said already, people will create lists elsewhere and just manually check; or they'll use red to mean blue. There is no game mechanic tied to standings and so simply not allowing somebody to turn somebody else blue will not have much impact.
Avoida	Posted - 2009.08.26 19:21:00 - [21] Originally by: Phreeze Simple enough: Change the standing system to allow only five +10 slots, and five +5 slots. Or just grow some balls and voluntarily not have as many blues as you currently have? Nobody is forcing you to keep adding blues.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.08.26 19:49:00 - [22] And as the OP hasn't bothered to come back in here and justify why this is even a problem, I'm calling it a troll. --Vel Jesus loves you. Everyone else thinks you're an asshat.
swordmaster125 The Soulforged Combat Group	Posted - 2009.09.02 14:14:00 - [23] Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: Phreeze Simple enough: Change the standing system to allow only five +10 slots, and five +5 slots. While your proposal certainly is simple enough, it offers absolutely no reasoning WHY this should be changed. I mean, hell I can come up with random proposals with no reasons. Go back and try again. A little background on the supposed problem this will fix might help. heres a reason... naptrains are boring!
Cyberman Mastermind	Posted - 2009.09.02 14:46:00 - [24] Originally by: swordmaster125 heres a reason... naptrains are boring! How so? Are you onboard? Get out of the corp/alliance. Are they your enemies? More to shoot! Are they somewhere else where you don't even go? Why do they bother you? In any case, you cannot and should not force people not to be friends. If the game doesn't allow it, they'll simply use other methods. Maybe there will be more "friendly fire", but surely not more hostility. Intel channels will have to do more out-of-game checks, that's all.
Ninja Troll	Posted - 2009.09.02 14:54:00 - [25] Originally by: Pian Shu If you want to prevent people from having lots of allies, you need to create a game mechanic that discourages them from being friendly with each other... It's called clicking the undock button.
Valea Life. Universe. Everything.	Posted - 2009.09.02 22:10:00 - [26] How about we just make a skill called diplomatic regulation which adds one additional high standings slot for every level (except level III), and then a skill called advanced diplomatic regulation that adds one more per level. Maybe an implant too? --- signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link to the image URL) - Jacques([email protected])
Pian Shu Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Tread Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.03 17:26:00 - [27] Originally by: Ninja Troll It's called clicking the undock button. And apparently it's not working well enough for the original poster. I actually use that mechanic quite a bit; more than you it seems.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.09.03 18:33:00 - [28] Originally by: Valea How about we just make a skill called diplomatic regulation which adds one additional high standings slot for every level (except level III), and then a skill called advanced diplomatic regulation that adds one more per level. Maybe an implant too? Why? What are you trying to solve? Someone mentioned NAP's - well...aren't those your allies? So really what you want to be able to do is shoot at people your alliance has decided are off limits for shooting at. If you don't like it, leave the alliance. Then you/they can shoot them/you all day long. Or, and this is just me blue skying here, fly a little further from home and shoot some people that aren't blue. This mecahnic isn't broken - you're just not happy with the target selection. --Vel Jesus loves you. Everyone else thinks you're an asshat.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre	Posted - 2009.09.03 18:58:00 - [29] Seriously... if you don't like it.. go fly off into some distance 0.0 space full of reds or nuets and blow im to hell. Problem solved. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
Eli Porter Altruism. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.09.03 19:16:00 - [30] Posting in a CAOD thread

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