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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2004.10.15 04:48:00 -
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[NEFI] engaged and destroyed a cruiser of mine a few months back while still under a NAP with my organization. They seem to have very selective memory when it comes standings.
Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2004.10.15 04:48:00 -
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[NEFI] engaged and destroyed a cruiser of mine a few months back while still under a NAP with my organization. They seem to have very selective memory when it comes standings.
Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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H Erectus
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Posted - 2004.10.15 06:13:00 -
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leila, purge the stupid from your system and just link to a 5k .txt file elsewhere. these threads where someone pastes 5 posts worth of bs are retarded.
then, unplug your computer and never play eve again. thanks.
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H Erectus
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Posted - 2004.10.15 06:13:00 -
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leila, purge the stupid from your system and just link to a 5k .txt file elsewhere. these threads where someone pastes 5 posts worth of bs are retarded.
then, unplug your computer and never play eve again. thanks.
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Leila Numanor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 06:17:00 -
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erectus move along nobody asked you to read this nor wants you to post here take your 14yo opinion and go meet disfunction so you can be a happy couple... well not TOO happy. Gotta love the ppl without enough balls to post with their mains. ==Taimar > wars rock man. gotta hand it ot you guys. was getting boring until now. ManicMiner > what corp/s alliance/s would you like to recieve an evemail from asking you to retract the war==
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Leila Numanor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 06:17:00 -
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erectus move along nobody asked you to read this nor wants you to post here take your 14yo opinion and go meet disfunction so you can be a happy couple... well not TOO happy. Gotta love the ppl without enough balls to post with their mains. ==Taimar > wars rock man. gotta hand it ot you guys. was getting boring until now. ManicMiner > what corp/s alliance/s would you like to recieve an evemail from asking you to retract the war==
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2004.10.15 06:23:00 -
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Edited by: RollinDutchMasters on 15/10/2004 06:25:41
Originally by: Leila Numanor Gotta love the ppl without enough balls to post with their mains.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha. You are so going to get *****-slapped.
Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2004.10.15 06:23:00 -
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Edited by: RollinDutchMasters on 15/10/2004 06:25:41
Originally by: Leila Numanor Gotta love the ppl without enough balls to post with their mains.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha. You are so going to get *****-slapped.
Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.10.15 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Leila Numanor [ 2004.10.14 22:59:08 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Anyone here wanna buy a Scorpion I just stole?

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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.10.15 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Leila Numanor [ 2004.10.14 22:59:08 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Anyone here wanna buy a Scorpion I just stole?

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Nybbas
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Posted - 2004.10.15 06:45:00 -
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LOL GO ISTVAAN!!! :-d
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Nybbas
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Posted - 2004.10.15 06:45:00 -
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LOL GO ISTVAAN!!! :-d
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.10.15 07:03:00 -
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EC-P is such a vipers nest. You can't trust anyone in that system.
At least in HED-GP you know who the bad guys are.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.10.15 07:03:00 -
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EC-P is such a vipers nest. You can't trust anyone in that system.
At least in HED-GP you know who the bad guys are.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Taimar
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Posted - 2004.10.15 08:16:00 -
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Edited by: Taimar on 15/10/2004 08:19:24 Edited by: Taimar on 15/10/2004 08:18:55 I was laughing so much I was crying at those chatlogs... That was before this:
[ 2004.10.14 22:59:08 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Anyone here wanna buy a Scorpion I just stole?
ROFLMAO     
Just to inform any neutrals here... We were smack talking like a good un. *wipes tear* Guy Richie would have been proud of my ****ney lads. Isnt ransoming to have a war retracted Piracy ? especially as its a lil mining corp... The only fighter (Tamora) actually left a month before this war started :S
Should we post the logs of us actually being nice after a few battles? Leila babe - dont take it so personally, were just having a laugh! 
Look forward for more Empire based fun.
*edit - why does it *** out the word C O C K N E Y ?
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Taimar
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Posted - 2004.10.15 08:16:00 -
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Edited by: Taimar on 15/10/2004 08:19:24 Edited by: Taimar on 15/10/2004 08:18:55 I was laughing so much I was crying at those chatlogs... That was before this:
[ 2004.10.14 22:59:08 ] Istvaan Shogaatsu > Anyone here wanna buy a Scorpion I just stole?
ROFLMAO     
Just to inform any neutrals here... We were smack talking like a good un. *wipes tear* Guy Richie would have been proud of my ****ney lads. Isnt ransoming to have a war retracted Piracy ? especially as its a lil mining corp... The only fighter (Tamora) actually left a month before this war started :S
Should we post the logs of us actually being nice after a few battles? Leila babe - dont take it so personally, were just having a laugh! 
Look forward for more Empire based fun.
*edit - why does it *** out the word C O C K N E Y ?
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PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.10.15 10:14:00 -
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C22 for Victory!
Originally by: Taimar Just to inform any neutrals here... We were smack talking like a good un. *wipes tear* Guy Richie would have been proud of my ****ney lads. Isnt ransoming to have a war retracted Piracy ? especially as its a lil mining corp... The only fighter (Tamora) actually left a month before this war started :S
Should we post the logs of us actually being nice after a few battles? Leila babe - dont take it so personally, were just having a laugh! 
If New Frontiers can't take the heat, they should probably stay out of the kitchen.
The fact of the matter is you incurred a moral and financial debt to C22 when you destroyed there ship, if you don't want to pay this or acknowledge the debt then you will be shot.
Simple.
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PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.10.15 10:14:00 -
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C22 for Victory!
Originally by: Taimar Just to inform any neutrals here... We were smack talking like a good un. *wipes tear* Guy Richie would have been proud of my ****ney lads. Isnt ransoming to have a war retracted Piracy ? especially as its a lil mining corp... The only fighter (Tamora) actually left a month before this war started :S
Should we post the logs of us actually being nice after a few battles? Leila babe - dont take it so personally, were just having a laugh! 
If New Frontiers can't take the heat, they should probably stay out of the kitchen.
The fact of the matter is you incurred a moral and financial debt to C22 when you destroyed there ship, if you don't want to pay this or acknowledge the debt then you will be shot.
Simple.
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xVx dreadnaught
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Posted - 2004.10.15 11:08:00 -
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it is in my understanding that this war is only happening becouse nfei got a shout form one of there friends telling them they needed assistance(it is in my experiance that friends are more important then neutrals coz you know if the shoe was on the other foot the friendly would help the neutral wont)and so they gave it, now c22 are looking to nfei to replace an apoc (reptar got the kill) did the apoc pilot have insurance if so then its settled he got payed, if not then what was he doing in 0.0 withought it. i believe c22 have missunderstood the situation and should think carefully about what started it off (one of there pilots went npc hunting in a hostile zone not too smart)
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xVx dreadnaught
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Posted - 2004.10.15 11:08:00 -
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it is in my understanding that this war is only happening becouse nfei got a shout form one of there friends telling them they needed assistance(it is in my experiance that friends are more important then neutrals coz you know if the shoe was on the other foot the friendly would help the neutral wont)and so they gave it, now c22 are looking to nfei to replace an apoc (reptar got the kill) did the apoc pilot have insurance if so then its settled he got payed, if not then what was he doing in 0.0 withought it. i believe c22 have missunderstood the situation and should think carefully about what started it off (one of there pilots went npc hunting in a hostile zone not too smart)
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Celebon
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Posted - 2004.10.15 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Celebon on 15/10/2004 15:28:49
Originally by: Leila Numanor
I ask NFEI to prove it was a 3on1 with their kill mail and prove aloron blew up turos's badger this corp lies to cover their other lies it's absolutely rediculous. Manicminer stated this today and i ask all who read who know him/his corp to state whether he speaks for your alliance/corps.
Well, just thought i'd point out as most people know things like warp scrambling, webbying, as well as EW do not show up on kill mails. You could easily have had the rifter Webby MM and could have had a BB dampening/jamming to boot. Long as they didn't fire a missile/shoot a gun they wouldn't show up on the kill mail.
Not saying thgis is the case, just that the kill mail doesn't prove everything.
Thing is, you did have at least one other pilot there, by your own kill mail, a rifter. Considering he was close enough in to lock and kill before MM's pod warped out, means he probably had to be VERY close into that mega. That in itself does raise some questions.
Personally I'm more inclined to take MM's word over yours as I and many other have had dealings with him. He's been forthright and upfront in the past. Also, during the Jove event, MM was heavily involved in the collection and running of the CEC. He had an obsene amount of isk, body parts and so on and he ensured that everything wa dealt with fairly and everyone got what they were owed. End of the day, if MM said there were 3 ships there, I'm inclined to belive him. Esp as your own mails show there were at least 2. 
EDIT: thought i'd add that kill mails can be a little buggy (hell, something in game buggy? ) and not show all involved parties either.
Drink StarsiÖ Security Division Caldari State Citizen
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Celebon
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Posted - 2004.10.15 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Celebon on 15/10/2004 15:28:49
Originally by: Leila Numanor
I ask NFEI to prove it was a 3on1 with their kill mail and prove aloron blew up turos's badger this corp lies to cover their other lies it's absolutely rediculous. Manicminer stated this today and i ask all who read who know him/his corp to state whether he speaks for your alliance/corps.
Well, just thought i'd point out as most people know things like warp scrambling, webbying, as well as EW do not show up on kill mails. You could easily have had the rifter Webby MM and could have had a BB dampening/jamming to boot. Long as they didn't fire a missile/shoot a gun they wouldn't show up on the kill mail.
Not saying thgis is the case, just that the kill mail doesn't prove everything.
Thing is, you did have at least one other pilot there, by your own kill mail, a rifter. Considering he was close enough in to lock and kill before MM's pod warped out, means he probably had to be VERY close into that mega. That in itself does raise some questions.
Personally I'm more inclined to take MM's word over yours as I and many other have had dealings with him. He's been forthright and upfront in the past. Also, during the Jove event, MM was heavily involved in the collection and running of the CEC. He had an obsene amount of isk, body parts and so on and he ensured that everything wa dealt with fairly and everyone got what they were owed. End of the day, if MM said there were 3 ships there, I'm inclined to belive him. Esp as your own mails show there were at least 2. 
EDIT: thought i'd add that kill mails can be a little buggy (hell, something in game buggy? ) and not show all involved parties either.
Drink StarsiÖ Security Division Caldari State Citizen
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xVx dreadnaught
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Posted - 2004.10.15 11:18:00 -
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Edited by: xVx dreadnaught on 15/10/2004 11:24:43 Edited by: xVx dreadnaught on 15/10/2004 11:22:26
Originally by: Lethal1 PA truce is still on. The war that we are having is against NFEI only ATM. There were smaktalking members of PA forces in local today stating that they would declare war against us but hope that PA would not want to get involved with our revenge.
Notferr no matter how much I hate you there will always be a spot in our corp. if you want to vacation. We have a great location picked out in Piak. The weather there is nice and the people are friendly.
i never once said i would have pa declare war but, i would fight and even if it is a personal war (us xvx all stick together and your at war with 2) me and skillgannon and scarecrow and icewind know each other in real life to quote icewind 'f**k with one xvx f**k with us all' i never involed pa in anyway! if you wanna check my bio it states im just damn fearless
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xVx dreadnaught
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Posted - 2004.10.15 11:18:00 -
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Edited by: xVx dreadnaught on 15/10/2004 11:24:43 Edited by: xVx dreadnaught on 15/10/2004 11:22:26
Originally by: Lethal1 PA truce is still on. The war that we are having is against NFEI only ATM. There were smaktalking members of PA forces in local today stating that they would declare war against us but hope that PA would not want to get involved with our revenge.
Notferr no matter how much I hate you there will always be a spot in our corp. if you want to vacation. We have a great location picked out in Piak. The weather there is nice and the people are friendly.
i never once said i would have pa declare war but, i would fight and even if it is a personal war (us xvx all stick together and your at war with 2) me and skillgannon and scarecrow and icewind know each other in real life to quote icewind 'f**k with one xvx f**k with us all' i never involed pa in anyway! if you wanna check my bio it states im just damn fearless
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Reptar
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Posted - 2004.10.15 12:36:00 -
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Hehe C22 got bitter eggs they lost a bs, those guys were some of my best friends ingame, Aloron starts to attack me so i coax Tamora into helping me take him down , both Turos, and Tamora have left NFEI.
And look at the date 2004.08.22 21:35:00, you guys really need to sort these issues out alot faster.
Any Questions?
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Reptar
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Posted - 2004.10.15 12:36:00 -
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Hehe C22 got bitter eggs they lost a bs, those guys were some of my best friends ingame, Aloron starts to attack me so i coax Tamora into helping me take him down , both Turos, and Tamora have left NFEI.
And look at the date 2004.08.22 21:35:00, you guys really need to sort these issues out alot faster.
Any Questions?
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Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: xVx dreadnaught Edited by: xVx dreadnaught on 15/10/2004 11:24:43 Edited by: xVx dreadnaught on 15/10/2004 11:22:26
Originally by: Lethal1 PA truce is still on. The war that we are having is against NFEI only ATM. There were smaktalking members of PA forces in local today stating that they would declare war against us but hope that PA would not want to get involved with our revenge.
Notferr no matter how much I hate you there will always be a spot in our corp. if you want to vacation. We have a great location picked out in Piak. The weather there is nice and the people are friendly.
i never once said i would have pa declare war but, i would fight and even if it is a personal war (us xvx all stick together and your at war with 2) me and skillgannon and scarecrow and icewind know each other in real life to quote icewind 'f**k with one xvx f**k with us all' i never involed pa in anyway! if you wanna check my bio it states im just damn fearless
PA is taking no part in this at all. PA members smacktalking either side should please be reported to the PA council via pa public diplomatic forums at: pa diplo forum Dreadnaught, a message from your CEO, who as you know is on RL vacation, is to not post anymore on this issue or on this part of the forums please.
That's all there is to say. A regular diplomat will respond to questions from either side, but we regret any PA rank-and-file sticking their noses in.
Razor Razor
Originally by: Bonaventure Phaidon CCP is the best at at least three things: 1. Really, really fun gameplay 2. Good forum presence 3. Inventing new and exciting ways to bring about in-game catacly
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Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: xVx dreadnaught Edited by: xVx dreadnaught on 15/10/2004 11:24:43 Edited by: xVx dreadnaught on 15/10/2004 11:22:26
Originally by: Lethal1 PA truce is still on. The war that we are having is against NFEI only ATM. There were smaktalking members of PA forces in local today stating that they would declare war against us but hope that PA would not want to get involved with our revenge.
Notferr no matter how much I hate you there will always be a spot in our corp. if you want to vacation. We have a great location picked out in Piak. The weather there is nice and the people are friendly.
i never once said i would have pa declare war but, i would fight and even if it is a personal war (us xvx all stick together and your at war with 2) me and skillgannon and scarecrow and icewind know each other in real life to quote icewind 'f**k with one xvx f**k with us all' i never involed pa in anyway! if you wanna check my bio it states im just damn fearless
PA is taking no part in this at all. PA members smacktalking either side should please be reported to the PA council via pa public diplomatic forums at: pa diplo forum Dreadnaught, a message from your CEO, who as you know is on RL vacation, is to not post anymore on this issue or on this part of the forums please.
That's all there is to say. A regular diplomat will respond to questions from either side, but we regret any PA rank-and-file sticking their noses in.
Razor Razor
Originally by: Bonaventure Phaidon CCP is the best at at least three things: 1. Really, really fun gameplay 2. Good forum presence 3. Inventing new and exciting ways to bring about in-game catacly
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Leila Numanor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 14:59:00 -
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Yeah i got a great laugh out of istavaan when he was trying to sell the scorp too.... As for the date C22 had been envolved in empire wars against different pa corps and didn't have the time/resources to demand what was taken to be replaced. I recently joined up with them gave them a hand with some pvp advice and worked for a week to get every member mining rare ores so everyone could afford what they want/need. That being said/done NFEI was told that this issues would be taken care of it just took longer then C22 wanted.
Anyone posting here who doesn't know what they are talking about like the xvx guys who showed up in local to only smack talk you do not know the facts and ONLY facts belong in this thread. Let's review this again for the shallow people..... NFEI entered into the pa/nca war on pa side but declared they were neutrals, Aloron being the true gentleman that he is goes through the proper routes to talk to the co-ceo (or so he said he was) and then the ceo. He never once cussed got angry or anything at anyone and still isn't to this day, Turos couldn't answer his questions so he later convo'd Manicminer. Manicminer being the great citizen that he is instead of talking to aloron brings everyone into the convo to smack talk him and demand money from Aloron.
Since you think we're trying to extort you I give you the original offer one last time 32million for insurance on the apoc and 15m for mods destroyed and stolen and the war will cease. Your corp has suffered hundreds of millions in losses already and you could of prevented this by 47million isk...... You want it over? you want emails from alliances/corps asking us to cancel it? It will not happen. Either you pay for your part in this or the war continues.
Someone said well why don't you ask Reptar for the isk.... He was enemy you don't ask enemys for isk for lost ships, but neutral non allied corps who hop in on the fight either pay for what they did or get envolved in a war, simple as that.
I will inform my ceo that I have offered this to you 1 last time we have been more then reasonable with this so the ball is in your court now. You have 24hours to deposit 47mil isk into Lethal1's account and I assure you this is the last time this offer will stand. I will eve mail Manicminer in game so he is aware of this yet again if you choose to delete the eve mail again that is your choice. At 11:00 am EST on Saturday this offer expires.
==Taimar > wars rock man. gotta hand it ot you guys. was getting boring until now. ManicMiner > what corp/s alliance/s would you like to recieve an evemail from asking you to retract the war==
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Leila Numanor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 14:59:00 -
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Yeah i got a great laugh out of istavaan when he was trying to sell the scorp too.... As for the date C22 had been envolved in empire wars against different pa corps and didn't have the time/resources to demand what was taken to be replaced. I recently joined up with them gave them a hand with some pvp advice and worked for a week to get every member mining rare ores so everyone could afford what they want/need. That being said/done NFEI was told that this issues would be taken care of it just took longer then C22 wanted.
Anyone posting here who doesn't know what they are talking about like the xvx guys who showed up in local to only smack talk you do not know the facts and ONLY facts belong in this thread. Let's review this again for the shallow people..... NFEI entered into the pa/nca war on pa side but declared they were neutrals, Aloron being the true gentleman that he is goes through the proper routes to talk to the co-ceo (or so he said he was) and then the ceo. He never once cussed got angry or anything at anyone and still isn't to this day, Turos couldn't answer his questions so he later convo'd Manicminer. Manicminer being the great citizen that he is instead of talking to aloron brings everyone into the convo to smack talk him and demand money from Aloron.
Since you think we're trying to extort you I give you the original offer one last time 32million for insurance on the apoc and 15m for mods destroyed and stolen and the war will cease. Your corp has suffered hundreds of millions in losses already and you could of prevented this by 47million isk...... You want it over? you want emails from alliances/corps asking us to cancel it? It will not happen. Either you pay for your part in this or the war continues.
Someone said well why don't you ask Reptar for the isk.... He was enemy you don't ask enemys for isk for lost ships, but neutral non allied corps who hop in on the fight either pay for what they did or get envolved in a war, simple as that.
I will inform my ceo that I have offered this to you 1 last time we have been more then reasonable with this so the ball is in your court now. You have 24hours to deposit 47mil isk into Lethal1's account and I assure you this is the last time this offer will stand. I will eve mail Manicminer in game so he is aware of this yet again if you choose to delete the eve mail again that is your choice. At 11:00 am EST on Saturday this offer expires.
==Taimar > wars rock man. gotta hand it ot you guys. was getting boring until now. ManicMiner > what corp/s alliance/s would you like to recieve an evemail from asking you to retract the war==
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