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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.08.26 20:44:00 -
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this is gonna sound weird, but i think that i should shield tank my redeemer.i noticed this after seeing the <1k HP difference in armor and shields.
[Redeemer, tachs] Dark Blood Heat Sink Dark Blood Heat Sink Dark Blood Heat Sink Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System Tracking Enhancer II Inertia Stabilizers II
Brynn's Modified 100MN MicroWarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Covert Jump Portal Generator I Improved Cloaking Device II
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Bouncer I x5
after trying to get a tachyon and armor tank fit going, i eventually said screw it, and went for this fit. i actually enjoy the looks of this fit so far, and i want to see what others think about it.
just some notes here - i fitted brynn's MWD because thats one i already have, and saw no point in getting another. - T1 tachs because of the fitting and because i cant use them yet  - fittings are tight, and i may need a CPU or PG implant, so any suggestions on CPU or PG reduction would be nice.
also
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Airtight Alibi
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Posted - 2009.08.26 20:49:00 -
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cool story bro!
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.08.26 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Airtight Alibi cool story bro!
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Trustworthy Joe
Originally by: Airtight Alibi cool story bro!
i know right?
navy stuffs and not T2 guns? Dissapointing :) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Per Ole
Caldari Anonymous Alcoholics
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Airtight Alibi cool story bro!
I find your argument both shallow and pedantic
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Niko Takahashi
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Originally by: Trustworthy Joe
Originally by: Airtight Alibi cool story bro!
i know right?
navy stuffs and not T2 guns? Dissapointing :)
1 read his post 2 you have faction mods all over place get amarr navy Lazors
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Originally by: Trustworthy Joe
Originally by: Airtight Alibi cool story bro!
i know right?
navy stuffs and not T2 guns? Dissapointing :)
i know, working on it 
a thought occurs, i can get a rack of amarr navy tachs
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:18:00 -
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Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 26/08/2009 21:18:55
Originally by: Niko Takahashi
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Originally by: Trustworthy Joe
Originally by: Airtight Alibi cool story bro!
i know right?
navy stuffs and not T2 guns? Dissapointing :)
1 read his post 2 you have faction mods all over place get amarr navy Lazors
I did. Its you who failed to realize what I was really saying. :P
I still find the lack of T2 guns dissapointing. Why fly a T2 BS with only named guns? I'd rather wait and train up to fit it proper. ;) But thats maby just me :P
Also, use two invuls and 1 LSE, more ehp that way. :)
But consider Mega Pulse as well, 52km optimal (max) with T2 Scorch L ammo. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:27:00 -
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Looks to me like its going to end up starved for cap to run those guns though, but I can't check at the moment.
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:34:00 -
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Cap Booster.
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1 Looks to me like its going to end up starved for cap to run those guns though, but I can't check at the moment.
to this and the cap booster guy
i just dont want to deal with the damn things. this ship isnt going to be in a fight, its just going to supply some long range DPS when the targets locked down. can run the guns for about 4 minutes, MWD can be pulsed occasionally.
to the t2 lazor crowd:
i know EXACTLY what you mean, and i feel like a noob whenever i have to fit t1 stuff. that said, i am currently training large lasers up atm, and this is just a temp fit. amarr navy tachs take up too much powergrid to fit, and i have a feeling t2 will as well 
i had a redeemer fit a while back that had mega pulses (which i have the t2 version of) and it was meh. i want LONG range, not medium. _______________________ Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
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Jasese
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.26 23:09:00 -
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Hmm nice sniper fitt... beside the fact you can only lock 65 km  |

Mr Reason
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Posted - 2009.08.26 23:12:00 -
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That ships has no purpose and any purpose you might attribute to it, it fails miserably at. It has no range (both on guns as locking), it has no tank worthy of a marauder.
Conclusion; OP is moronic or a troll, probably both.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.26 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reason That ships has no purpose and any purpose you might attribute to it, it fails miserably at. It has no range (both on guns as locking), it has no tank worthy of a marauder.
Conclusion; OP is moronic or a troll, probably both.
its not a marauder.
Also, it needs more cargo expanders and rigs, to fit all the fuel to jumpbridge stuff.
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Mr Reason
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Posted - 2009.08.26 23:27:00 -
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ups, BO. Guess I'm a moron as well. Still, it makes no sense at all. Either fit it as a sniper or fit it to tank and in the case of the redeemer; sniper.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.26 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reason ups, BO. Guess I'm a moron as well. Still, it makes no sense at all. Either fit it as a sniper or fit it to tank and in the case of the redeemer; sniper.
that fit has enough range and locking to shoot out to 62km.. which i assume is his intended operational range.
However, id still go megapulse with scorch.
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Mr Reason
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Posted - 2009.08.26 23:47:00 -
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Do explain what tactical use a BO has with 62km range, no real tank and not enough scan res to actually lock stuff before next year.
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.08.27 00:03:00 -
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Edited by: Trustworthy Joe on 27/08/2009 00:04:30
Originally by: Mr Reason Do explain what tactical use a BO has with 62km range, no real tank and not enough scan res to actually lock stuff before next year.
well, its better than a black ops with 25km range, no real tank, and not enough scan res to actually lock stuff before next year.
if you have ever flown a black ops, you would understand. they have less DPS and tank than their t1 equivalents. any attmept to tank them usually kills you.
i want a tach redeemer for 1: the huge tracking bonus on the ship and 2: to add extra DPS to my current recon gang, seeing how this isnt meant to be solo.
however, i dont really value any input you have, as you didnt even check to see what ship it was. you assumed marauder, and you didnt even think of counting the guns.
the point of this ship is just to add a significant amount of DPS at mid ranges to my recon gang. i agree on the fuel bay, i can always take out a HS/Istab or something to add on a cargo expander. fuel is a problem.
EDIT: lance, i dont want to use scorch because id rather have a bit more range than 62km if needed. i dont plan on being a 180+ sniper, i just want to be far enough away to negate most damage. _______________________ Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
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Mr Reason
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Posted - 2009.08.27 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Reason on 27/08/2009 00:27:08 If you get caught, and you will at 60km if the other guys gain the initiative, no amount of LSE's and CN invuls will save you. RANGE saves you, it means you're too far out for an intie to closein so fast you can't react to it and it gives you the opportunity to be aligned to something while staying staying in optimal.
So; either properly (active armor) tank it OR use massive range. Doing it half-half gains you nothing but lossmails.
[Redeemer, New Setup 1] True Sansha Heat Sink True Sansha Heat Sink True Sansha Heat Sink Signal Amplifier II Reactor Control Unit II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Sensor Booster II
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Radio L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Microwave L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Infrared L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Covert Jump Portal Generator I Improved Cloaking Device II
Ancillary Current Router I Targeting System Subcontroller I
Bouncer II x5
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.27 00:52:00 -
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Edited by: Lance Fighter on 27/08/2009 00:53:38 imo add dps wit ha pilgrim, not a redeemer >.>
Why not something like this? [Redeemer, tachs import 1] Dark Blood Heat Sink Dark Blood Heat Sink Dark Blood Heat Sink 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Amarr Navy Adaptive Nano Plating Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Damage Control II
Brynn's Modified 100MN MicroWarpdrive Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Covert Jump Portal Generator I Improved Cloaking Device II
Algid Energy Administrations Unit I Algid Energy Administrations Unit I
Bouncer I x5
edit you gain 10k ehp with this setup... as well, RR is more effective.
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.08.27 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter Edited by: Lance Fighter on 27/08/2009 00:53:38 imo add dps wit ha pilgrim, not a redeemer >.>
Why not something like this? [Redeemer, tachs import 1] Dark Blood Heat Sink Dark Blood Heat Sink Dark Blood Heat Sink 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Amarr Navy Adaptive Nano Plating Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Damage Control II
Brynn's Modified 100MN MicroWarpdrive Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Covert Jump Portal Generator I Improved Cloaking Device II
Algid Energy Administrations Unit I Algid Energy Administrations Unit I
Bouncer I x5
edit you gain 10k ehp with this setup... as well, RR is more effective.
i like, and i dont feel dirty armor tanking my amarr BS. thank you sir  _______________________ Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.27 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Trustworthy Joe
Originally by: Lance Fighter Edited by: Lance Fighter on 27/08/2009 00:53:38 imo add dps wit ha pilgrim, not a redeemer >.>
Why not something like this? [Redeemer, tachs import 1] Dark Blood Heat Sink Dark Blood Heat Sink Dark Blood Heat Sink 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Amarr Navy Adaptive Nano Plating Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Damage Control II
Brynn's Modified 100MN MicroWarpdrive Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Covert Jump Portal Generator I Improved Cloaking Device II
Algid Energy Administrations Unit I Algid Energy Administrations Unit I
Bouncer I x5
edit you gain 10k ehp with this setup... as well, RR is more effective.
i like, and i dont feel dirty armor tanking my amarr BS. thank you sir 
well. That was easyer than I thought.
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Capt Oconell
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Posted - 2009.09.02 16:25:00 -
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First of all. If you cant use T2 guns you shouldnt be flying a ship that costs over a billion.
And second, I dont know how you fit your armor tank, but the difference is not 1k HP. Any kind of geddon type ship is an armor tanker no matter how you fit it. The smallest dif I can get on eft between shield and armor tanking setup is 8k at the very least.
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