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Alister Azimuth
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Posted - 2009.08.28 11:08:00 -
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I am going to join a corporation that owns a class 1 wormhole base and im a miner.I wanted to ask other more experienced wormhole explorers if class 1 wormholes have good enough belts to mine in my hulk and what kinds of ore can be found except ABC.Also do I need a tank-hulk while I mine or shall I go ahead with my cargo-hulk and mine away?
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Tramp Oline
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Posted - 2009.08.28 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: Tramp Oline on 28/08/2009 11:39:56
To start off with, you can only get a Hulk into a class 1 wormhole by repackaging it and hauling it in with a industrial ship or building it at the POS. Once you get the Hulk into the wormhole and assemble it you will never be able to get it out again.
When mining in a wormhole you'll only get one spawn of sleepers. Once they are killed you'll be able to mine without worrying about NPC spawns so if you like to mine with a cargo-hulk then go for it. I'd bring along some mining upgrades for those times when you have someone hauling for you.
The only thing really worth mining in a wormhole are the ABCs. If you are bored you can mine the Gneiss, Spodumain, Hedbergite, and other mid to low level ores. Mining the low end stuff really depends on whether or not your corporation is building stuff in the wormhole and needs the low end mins.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.28 12:31:00 -
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1. No tank needed.
2. Don't warp to all the sites immediately as this will start a despawn timer.
3. Your home system will eventually run out of ore/sites to mine. Be sure your corp intends to exploit the resources in neighboring wormhole systems.
4. Only mine ABCs and mercoxit when you can find it. Only mine other stuff if you absolutely need to (bored or need minerals).
5. Your hulk will not 100% be stuck there permanently. A wormhole from a higher level system or low/null sec could always open.
6. Covetor is a viable option for mining in w-space; less efficient but cheaper and insurable.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.08.28 13:31:00 -
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One last comment: the logistics of wormhole mining are the challenge. I've never seen mercoxit in a C1 or C2, even with an Uncommon Core Deposit, so they're right about ABC. Everything else is there, but that's all that's really worth mining (I'd rarely do Crokite even). All of that ore is 16 m3 per unit. Your choices are basically two:
1) Refine in the wormhole using one of the Refinery Arrays, or
2) Haul it out to k-space and refine it in a station.
Both of these are problematic. You can't get an Orca or a freighter in/out of a C1 wormhole, so you can't haul using those. That means your max cargo would be something in the neighborhood of 48,000 m3, using a rigged Iteron V. That's 3000 units of Arkonor, and I've found as much as 20,000 units in a single wormhole grav site. So, hauling it out is doable but takes a lot of trips.
If you refine in the hole, then you have to deal with the inefficiencies of the various refinery arrays. The regular one is a waste; don't use it. You can't get more than 35% of the ore out of it. The medium intensive can get you up to 75% max (it seems to be about 30-35% base because I don't get the full 75% with one refining Ark; no Ark processing yet), but can only hold 25,000 m3 of ore and takes 1.5 hours to refine. The intensive array can hold 200,000 m3 of ore, takes 3 hours to refine, and gives the same percentages. It does require a large tower, though.
The first time we set up in a C1 we hauled it out. The second time we used a medium intensive array. After that we upgraded to a large tower with an intensive array. It's a lot easier to get the minerals out than the ore, even though we lose 25% of them in the refining process. Now, if we had a Rorqual in there to compress ore I think we would have compacted it and hauled the compressed ore out.
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Dharken Rhaal
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Posted - 2009.08.28 13:39:00 -
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Raiding parties are not too rare in WHs. I lost about three retrievers to them.
And level 2 is much-much better for mining.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.28 13:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Dharken Rhaal
Raiding parties are not too rare in WHs. I lost about three retrievers to them.
And level 2 is much-much better for mining.
nice character name
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Red lensman
Gallente
BlackSky inc.
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.29 04:25:00 -
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a class 2 wh is a lot better for mining as you can get a orca in and out and they now carry upto 180k m3 of ore
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