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Yerik Locke
Silver.
Fade 2 Black
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Posted - 2012.06.02 13:44:00 -
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I tried to preserve as much as the rust as possible, but I wanted it to be able to handle a good egging. Those damned teenagers, I tell ye'.
Anyway, I felt like I wanted to pick a ship to redesign, and here's what came out. I'm really interested in design philosophy [of all the races, actually. And of non-Eve things as well,] and trying to preserve the "feel" of a certain aesthetic, whilst creating something new with it, or recreating something old. It's basically what I do all the time anyway, so the fact that it interests me here isn't too surprising.
So, have a look-see! I'm heading right to bed after this, but comments/criticisms are welcome, obviously. Thanks :)
http://imgur.com/c1m1W |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
53
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Posted - 2012.06.02 14:20:00 -
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Looks more like a mael body with pest fins. To put it bluntly, if I may, it looks less like a temptest and more like a whole different ship. Don't mean to bash, it's just my "honest" honest opinion. |
Solhild
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
710
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Posted - 2012.06.02 15:24:00 -
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Love it  |
Solhild
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
710
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Posted - 2012.06.02 15:26:00 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:Looks more like a mael body with pest fins. To put it bluntly, if I may, it looks less like a temptest and more like a whole different ship. Don't mean to bash, it's just my "honest" honest opinion.
In that case, it's a better Maelstrom than the current Mael 
EDIT: if the T2 variants get a substantially different model then the Vargur could look more like this. The basic Tempest still needs an update beyond t3 alone. |
Haldor Rune
State War Academy
Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2012.06.02 15:26:00 -
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My only comment on Minmatar aesthetics is I like the sail-fin-things. |
Kratisto
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.02 15:49:00 -
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I like the direction. I feel the Tempest is supposed to be more agile than a Mael, however, and therefore needs to be slimmed down a bit. |
Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2012.06.02 15:54:00 -
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I like it. The Tempest is a pretty terrible looking ship, so any redesign would be an improvement, I think. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1538
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Posted - 2012.06.02 15:56:00 -
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Solhild wrote:In that case, it's a better Maelstrom than the current Mael
The current mael looks a whole lot better than that, no offense. It's nicer than the tempest though.
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
744
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Posted - 2012.06.02 16:02:00 -
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looks great. Minmatar style and sifi at once.
a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Roisin Saoirse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
100
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Posted - 2012.06.02 16:02:00 -
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Yerik Locke wrote:So, have a look-see! I'm heading right to bed after this, but comments/criticisms are welcome, obviously. Thanks :)
Wow, I really like this. It actually looks like it won't fall apart at the first volley, and it still maintains the wingy bits.
It does kind of remind me a little too much of the Mael though, the Tempest (imho) should be more T-shaped with a vertical section - it's kind of a classic profile like the Raven and Megathron. Great pic though.  |
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
1238
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Posted - 2012.06.02 16:11:00 -
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Nice. Looks solid plus extra wingy bits to taste... Yum. |
TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries
EPIC Alliance
89
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Posted - 2012.06.02 16:19:00 -
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Niiiiiiice
I only ever emerge from the shadows when my main is banned. |
Johnny Rook
Requiem of the Sinner
17
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Posted - 2012.06.02 16:20:00 -
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Think the tempest could do with an overhaul but I prefer this |
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
59
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Posted - 2012.06.02 16:44:00 -
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Haldor Rune wrote:My only comment on Minmatar aesthetics is I like the sail-fin-things.
Really, that's my biggest sticking point with them. I hate them, I thought there were solar panels for awhile, apparently they are heat deflection panels. Either way they look stupid and look like the first hit that shield doesn't stop would take them off. |
Roisin Saoirse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
100
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Posted - 2012.06.02 16:45:00 -
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Lucy Ferrr wrote:Really, that's my biggest sticking point with them. I hate them, I thought there were solar panels for awhile, apparently they are heat deflection panels. Either way they look stupid and look like the first hit that shield doesn't stop would take them off.
Maybe once the new effects are in place, that will happen. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3970
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Posted - 2012.06.02 16:48:00 -
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I like this one much better http://axian.deviantart.com/gallery/#/dyhsre
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Yerik Locke
Silver.
Fade 2 Black
15
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Posted - 2012.06.02 17:13:00 -
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Thanks everyone for the feedback! I will acknowledge that it's inspired by the Maelstrom [obviously.] I think the main difference, if you were to see it in three dimensions, is that it wouldn't have a wide center "torso," but a slim one.
Also, I do like the other suggested design in general, but it's too clean for my taste. It looks a bit like a toy or something, rather than a refined warship. And it doesn't look big enough, though I know it's just a concept. I suppose with this one, I was trying to stray in the other direction, and weigh the two against each other.
Still don't know where I stand. :D |
Roisin Saoirse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
100
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Posted - 2012.06.02 17:27:00 -
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I've always thought that looked a bit too Gallentean and futuristic for the Minmatar. Too 'clean' like the new Reaper model. For me, part of the beauty of Minmatar ships is that they look like they've been patched together from old mission loot drops, like they're constantly in a state of running repairs.
I also like the idea that the wingy bits are solar panels that supplement the ship's leaking and poorly maintained power core, a requirement due to the crew often being comprised of a rag-tag mix of underskilled ruffians/militants/gangers/ex-slaves with little or no formal technical education. But maybe I'm just overthinking that a bit.  |
Solhild
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
710
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Posted - 2012.06.02 18:36:00 -
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Roisin Saoirse wrote:I've always thought that looked a bit too Gallentean and futuristic for the Minmatar. Too 'clean' like the new Reaper model. For me, part of the beauty of Minmatar ships is that they look like they've been patched together from old mission loot drops, like they're constantly in a state of running repairs. I also like the idea that the wingy bits are solar panels that supplement the ship's leaking and poorly maintained power core, a requirement due to the crew often being comprised of a rag-tag mix of underskilled ruffians/militants/gangers/ex-slaves with little or no formal technical education. But maybe I'm just overthinking that a bit.
I like the idea that the wings bits are related to warp technology and serve a complex and mysterious function |
Degren
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1119
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Posted - 2012.06.02 18:41:00 -
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I was under the impression the fins acted as direction finding/sensors. That would match up with their old-school technology. (IE: Thats how current comm sensors work)
Edit: http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3277/hurricaner.png
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Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar
Intrepid Crossing
125
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Posted - 2012.06.02 18:47:00 -
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Kratisto wrote:I like the direction. I feel the Tempest is supposed to be more agile than a Mael, however, and therefore needs to be slimmed down a bit.
It is indeed. I remember running nanopest gangs back in my White Noise days. A lot of fun. Though perhaps rendered a little obsolete with the introduction of the Tornado. Still a ship I like.
I speak only for myself and my corp. My views are not representative of my alliance. |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
339
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Posted - 2012.06.02 23:16:00 -
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Yerik Locke wrote:I tried to preserve as much as the rust as possible, but I wanted it to be able to handle a good egging. Those damned teenagers, I tell ye'. Anyway, I felt like I wanted to pick a ship to redesign, and here's what came out. I'm really interested in design philosophy [of all the races, actually. And of non-Eve things as well,] and trying to preserve the "feel" of a certain aesthetic, whilst creating something new with it, or recreating something old. It's basically what I do all the time anyway, so the fact that it interests me here isn't too surprising. So, have a look-see! I'm heading right to bed after this, but comments/criticisms are welcome, obviously. Thanks :) http://imgur.com/c1m1W
wait, this is the new minmatar noob ship, rite? 
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Yerik Locke
Silver.
Fade 2 Black
15
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Posted - 2012.06.02 23:17:00 -
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Depends on how you look at it. ;D |
Oberine Noriepa
796
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Posted - 2012.06.03 03:40:00 -
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Wow. That's very nice! |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
717
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Posted - 2012.06.03 05:59:00 -
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Did you glue the tempest's fins onto a Drake
eh |
Eternus8lux8lucis
New Eden Regimental Marines
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
96
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Posted - 2012.06.03 06:41:00 -
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I like it. Gritty and dark, everything Minnies should be. I like that the fins look a bit more stable than they are now, especially given the backstory of the firepower of ships in Eve. Was always my biggest beef with those things.
As to the other one, Axians, yeah its cleaner and nicer and would make a GREAT model for either lego or plastic but loses the darkness in the translation imo which for Minnie is a big deal. So from a cosmetic or manufacturing standpoint itd be easier to mass produce as a model, still gets the point across and is a good model but doesnt have the darkness to it.
Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3970
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Posted - 2012.06.03 10:35:00 -
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I like the new republic style, reminds me of space sharks with armor plates trying to contain the rage within, just like heh vygur from homeworld 2.
Something that you wouldnt disregard as fourth rate quality. The minmatar are done running away its time for them to put together machines of revenge.
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Varesk
Mafia Redux
Black Legion.
73
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Posted - 2012.06.03 14:12:00 -
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Solhild wrote:[quote=Sobaan Tali]The basic Tempest still needs an update beyond t3 alone.
So does the Vaga. |
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