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Juilus Carnius Caldari Powerthirst inc. Exiliar Syndicate	Posted - 2009.08.30 16:58:00 - [1] I notice that RA and XXX/Solar are tearing it up in wc. (RA took a byrn outpost.) Forums have been pretty quiet about it, so are there any people willing to shed some light on this?
Ibaneez Amarr Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2009.08.30 17:26:00 - [2] lights a candle hope it helps Creating an idiot proof system will only inspire god to create a bigger idiot
Juilus Carnius Caldari Powerthirst inc. Exiliar Syndicate	Posted - 2009.08.30 17:30:00 - [3] Originally by: Ibaneez lights a candle hope it helps that helps like driving a railroad spike into my sack
Bin Matar Minmatar Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2009.08.30 17:51:00 - [4] Originally by: Juilus Carnius Originally by: Ibaneez lights a candle hope it helps that helps like driving a railroad spike into my sack Father is that you??? Quote: [20:25:09] wtfepixz > did someone just shoot me?
Devilish Ledoux Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.08.30 17:59:00 - [5] You could ask Sc0rched Earth's allies, but they might be too busy claiming that they were never allies. _ Dr. Gene Ray, Cubic and Wisest Human.
Phelaen Amarr Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas	Posted - 2009.08.30 18:13:00 - [6] wait SE is still alive? i thought they died allready, their member count has been decreasing for weeks now.
Juilus Carnius Caldari Powerthirst inc. Exiliar Syndicate	Posted - 2009.08.30 18:19:00 - [7] Originally by: Phelaen wait SE is still alive? i thought they died allready, their member count has been decreasing for weeks now. That's what I am thinking since TNT managed to take an outpost from them,
Too Stoned Minmatar Altless Green Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.30 21:11:00 - [8] Assault on Atlas is imminent
Yakoff Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2009.08.30 22:43:00 - [9] Originally by: Juilus Carnius Originally by: Phelaen wait SE is still alive? i thought they died allready, their member count has been decreasing for weeks now. That's what I am thinking since TNT managed to take an outpost from them, Huh, what? We did? You mean I have to check CAOD to find out this crap? ___ It deosnt mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, olny taht the frist and lsat leettr be in the rghit pclae. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef.
Dwight Hammerhead Caldari Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.08.30 23:10:00 - [10] Don't panic. I am sure the russians are up to no good as always and this has a logical explanation. Just follow the isk trail.. I bet some1 forgot to pay their rent _____________________________________________ Too bad at photoshop and too poor to buy a sig. Amarr Victor? Unlikely.
Relentless Phantsm Minmatar Black Serpent Technologies Atropos.	Posted - 2009.08.30 23:22:00 - [11] BYRN scavenges space in Fade, ally with Liberty. NC wants PB and Fade back after BoB fight in north is over. BYRN kisses TCF says we bow down help you. BYRN moves to Curse after throwing Liberty under the bus. BYRN works with BLACK to take WC. BYRN throws BLACK under bus takes all of WC. BYRN gets attacked by Aggro. TCF saves BYRN. Aggro moves in next door. BYRN says screw TCF we take out TCF space and play nice with Aggro so we keep space. BYRN has no more friends, they threw them all under the bus. BYRN cant cry to someone half competent to save them. RA sees easy space, takes it.
Juilus Carnius Caldari Powerthirst inc. Exiliar Syndicate	Posted - 2009.08.30 23:59:00 - [12] Originally by: Yakoff Huh, what? We did? You mean I have to check CAOD to find out this crap? yeah you guys got q-g back.
Yakoff Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2009.08.31 01:24:00 - [13] Originally by: Juilus Carnius Originally by: Yakoff Huh, what? We did? You mean I have to check CAOD to find out this crap? yeah you guys got q-g back. Now I am even morely confuseder. When did we ever have it before? ___ It deosnt mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, olny taht the frist and lsat leettr be in the rghit pclae. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef.
Juilus Carnius Caldari Powerthirst inc. Exiliar Syndicate	Posted - 2009.08.31 01:28:00 - [14] wheren't you based out of there when tcf had sov there
Graalum Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.31 01:35:00 - [15] Edited by: Graalum on 31/08/2009 01:36:26 Originally by: Relentless Phantsm BYRN scavenges space in Fade, ally with Liberty. NC wants PB and Fade back after BoB fight in north is over. BYRN kisses TCF says we bow down help you. BYRN moves to Curse after throwing Liberty under the bus. BYRN works with BLACK to take WC. BYRN throws BLACK under bus takes all of WC. BYRN gets attacked by Aggro. TCF saves BYRN. Aggro moves in next door. BYRN says screw TCF we take out TCF space and play nice with Aggro so we keep space. BYRN has no more friends, they threw them all under the bus. BYRN cant cry to someone half competent to save them. RA sees easy space, takes it. somehow i doubt aggro had much to do with that.
Barak Tor Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.08.31 01:54:00 - [16] Once there was an alliance named scorched earth..... They could field a 150 man fleet.... Then they accidentally their whole moral and pvp corps Now they are bleeding members and have a hard time getting 20 people together in prime. They are losing members, losing sov, lost their only r64. The only reason they aren't dead yet is they reinforced their station systems with the pos' from their outlying systems. But tbqh its just a matter of time. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Yakoff Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2009.08.31 05:07:00 - [17] Originally by: Juilus Carnius wheren't you based out of there when tcf had sov there I don't know. According to other alliance intel, we are PL pets handed towers to be the cannon fodder. To us, a pen is hard enough to hold, let alone sov - with a station even. So I have to say that your intel is corrupted. Please reboot and check again. ___ It deosnt mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, olny taht the frist and lsat leettr be in the rghit pclae. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef.
CrazyDeathz Gallente SPORADIC MOVEMENT Cult of War	Posted - 2009.08.31 12:08:00 - [18] Originally by: Barak Tor Once there was an alliance named scorched earth..... They could field a 150 man fleet.... Then they accidentally their whole moral and pvp corps Now they are bleeding members and have a hard time getting 20 people together in prime. They are losing members, losing sov, lost their only r64. The only reason they aren't dead yet is they reinforced their station systems with the pos' from their outlying systems. But tbqh its just a matter of time. I'm not sure bout the rest of you but I do find it a tiny, little bit funny, that the mighty Minor Threat, can say anything at all when they themselves are rly the new BRYN. Lets look here abit, Bryn changes sides to save themselves, and there space. Dosnt work out, like it hasnt for well almost who have tried such a idea. Ed IRC most recently, the list can go on for ages as we all know. Now we take Minor. As im sure alot of u avid readers of coad can remember, wasnt to long ago that they was all Mrs high and mighty over busten up RA taken scalden and so on. Now seems to me, and correct me if im wrong, but dosnt it sound a little bit the same as bryn was. Switch sides to save space blah blah blah. Look forward to all the crap that comes with posten such dribble, get space so on and all the rest, fact remains bryn and minor dont look to different to me. Ps, Hey Rydis ill still say crikey once more for u on vent, spelling and grammer blah blah blah.............
Cippalippus Primus Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.08.31 12:34:00 - [19] Originally by: CrazyDeathz Look forward to all the crap that comes with posten such dribble, get space so on and all the rest, fact remains bryn and minor dont look to different to me. rawrwarwaa u r liek byrn recruits byrn corps -clp
128th ABC123 Caldari Eve Liberation Force Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2009.08.31 12:42:00 - [20] Originally by: Relentless Phantsm BYRN scavenges space in Fade, ally with Liberty. NC wants PB and Fade back after BoB fight in north is over. BYRN kisses TCF says we bow down help you. BYRN moves to Curse after throwing Liberty under the bus. BYRN works with BLACK to take WC. BYRN throws BLACK under bus takes all of WC. BYRN gets attacked by Aggro. TCF saves BYRN. Aggro moves in next door. BYRN says screw TCF we take out TCF space and play nice with Aggro so we keep space. BYRN has no more friends, they threw them all under the bus. BYRN cant cry to someone half competent to save them. RA sees easy space, takes it. El'rac is a backstabber and should be trusted even less than the rest of Eve.
Hinkledolph Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.08.31 13:08:00 - [21] Originally by: CrazyDeathz Originally by: Barak Tor Once there was an alliance named scorched earth..... They could field a 150 man fleet.... Then they accidentally their whole moral and pvp corps Now they are bleeding members and have a hard time getting 20 people together in prime. They are losing members, losing sov, lost their only r64. The only reason they aren't dead yet is they reinforced their station systems with the pos' from their outlying systems. But tbqh its just a matter of time. I'm not sure bout the rest of you but I do find it a tiny, little bit funny, that the mighty Minor Threat, can say anything at all when they themselves are rly the new BRYN. Lets look here abit, Bryn changes sides to save themselves, and there space. Dosnt work out, like it hasnt for well almost who have tried such a idea. Ed IRC most recently, the list can go on for ages as we all know. Now we take Minor. As im sure alot of u avid readers of coad can remember, wasnt to long ago that they was all Mrs high and mighty over busten up RA taken scalden and so on. Now seems to me, and correct me if im wrong, but dosnt it sound a little bit the same as bryn was. Switch sides to save space blah blah blah. Look forward to all the crap that comes with posten such dribble, get space so on and all the rest, fact remains bryn and minor dont look to different to me. Ps, Hey Rydis ill still say crikey once more for u on vent, spelling and grammer blah blah blah............. You sound like a very bitter person. Instead of posting on CAOD, use that time to protect your space.
Pasha. Minmatar ZipZoom Kaboom	Posted - 2009.08.31 13:30:00 - [22] Originally by: CrazyDeathz Lets look here abit, Bryn changes sides to save themselves, and there space. Dosnt work out, like it hasnt for well almost who have tried such a idea. Ed IRC most recently, the list can go on for ages as we all know. I have an issue with this statement but this is CAOD I won't bother.
Ethan Hunte Gallente Ninjas With Frikkin StarShips	Posted - 2009.08.31 14:00:00 - [23] after reading dozens of posts on the issue. I see that Atlas reset cow. And then Minor Threat reset atlas. Cow being so incompetent not even atlas wanted them as pets. Doesn't look like a switch sides. More like someone recruited who was worth recruiting. In this case atlas' enemies recruited minor threat. Ninja is recruiting.
Juilus Carnius Caldari Powerthirst inc. Exiliar Syndicate	Posted - 2009.08.31 17:11:00 - [24] Originally by: 128th ABC123 Originally by: Relentless Phantsm BYRN scavenges space in Fade, ally with Liberty. NC wants PB and Fade back after BoB fight in north is over. BYRN kisses TCF says we bow down help you. BYRN moves to Curse after throwing Liberty under the bus. BYRN works with BLACK to take WC. BYRN throws BLACK under bus takes all of WC. BYRN gets attacked by Aggro. TCF saves BYRN. Aggro moves in next door. BYRN says screw TCF we take out TCF space and play nice with Aggro so we keep space. BYRN has no more friends, they threw them all under the bus. BYRN cant cry to someone half competent to save them. RA sees easy space, takes it. El'rac is a backstabber and should be trusted even less than the rest of Eve. El'rac is no longer a director in byrn though
Xirxo Minmatar Vanguard Frontiers Slightly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.08.31 22:10:00 - [25] Originally by: Juilus Carnius El'rac is no longer a director in byrn though El'rac hasn't played EVE for awhile now. He left along with some others when it was realized that some people take this game so seriously they'll make anonymous death threats to a person's home.
Kuar Z'thain Caldari Fraser's Finest Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.08.31 22:27:00 - [26] Originally by: Ethan Hunte after reading dozens of posts on the issue. I see that Atlas reset cow. And then Minor Threat reset atlas. Cow being so incompetent not even atlas wanted them as pets. Doesn't look like a switch sides. More like someone recruited who was worth recruiting. In this case atlas' enemies recruited minor threat. Logic, reason and facts have no place on CAOD. Good day to you, sir.
Silent Dodger Caldari Bad Robot Inc. Red Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.31 22:34:00 - [27] WC Belongs to TnT. That's the fundamental statement for now. We respect their attitude and dedication to the common goal of destruction of our enemies. For RA, that war is not about land, or moons - it's about revenge for the attack on our motherland (Insmother, and c-j6). Therefore, any one, who is eager to join our cause, will be remembered and respected. So say we all (c). “There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.”
Calindoth Caldari Militant Mermen Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.31 22:40:00 - [28] I remeber back when Minor Threat were decent, shame they are now one of the biggest ***** of eve. Joining the NAPtrain for no other reason than to stay alive is p.sad tbh, I wonder if AAA had set you blue would you have joined them? Truly is a shame I just hope that competent corps like Recon, which if I remeber correctly fought the Naptrain in insurgency, will realize how borring the naptrain really is... What a sell out, do you really want to be like RZR and have to go over 70 jumps to find someone who isn't red?
Juilus Carnius Caldari Powerthirst inc. Exiliar Syndicate	Posted - 2009.08.31 22:42:00 - [29] Originally by: Silent Dodger WC Belongs to TnT. That's the fundamental statement for now. We respect their attitude and dedication to the common goal of destruction of our enemies. For RA, that war is not about land, or moons - it's about revenge for the attack on our motherland (Insmother, and c-j6). Therefore, any one, who is eager to join our cause, will be remembered and respected. So say we all (c). Thanks I was looking for a RA comment which is something this thread lacked. c/d? on said comment?
Kuar Z'thain Caldari Fraser's Finest Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.08.31 22:46:00 - [30] Originally by: Calindoth I remeber back when Minor Threat were decent, shame they are now one of the biggest ***** of eve. Joining the NAPtrain for no other reason than to stay alive is p.sad tbh, I wonder if AAA had set you blue would you have joined them? Truly is a shame I just hope that competent corps like Recon, which if I remeber correctly fought the Naptrain in insurgency, will realize how borring the naptrain really is... What a sell out, do you really want to be like RZR and have to go over 70 jumps to find someone who isn't red? It is quite obvious from our killboard that the naptrain is not providing us with any action. ...
Calindoth Caldari Militant Mermen Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.31 23:01:00 - [31] Originally by: Kuar Z'thain It is quite obvious from our killboard that the naptrain is not providing us with any action. ... I hear blob action is best action. MT seemed decent when you were by yourselves I will definantly give you that, now go and make a name for yourselves, b/c in the naptrain you are compeltly overshadowed by RA/TCF/XXXdeath/GS/ZAF/KIA/PL/MM/RZR/MH/WI/CoT/SoT
Graalum Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.31 23:11:00 - [32] Originally by: Silent Dodger WC Belongs to TnT. That's the fundamental statement for now. We respect their attitude and dedication to the common goal of destruction of our enemies. For RA, that war is not about land, or moons - it's about revenge for the attack on our motherland (Insmother, and c-j6). Therefore, any one, who is eager to join our cause, will be remembered and respected. So say we all (c). How is xdeath pet status anyways?
Graalum Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.31 23:12:00 - [33] Originally by: Calindoth Originally by: Kuar Z'thain It is quite obvious from our killboard that the naptrain is not providing us with any action. ... I hear blob action is best action. MT seemed decent when you were by yourselves I will definantly give you that, now go and make a name for yourselves, b/c in the naptrain you are compeltly overshadowed by RA/TCF/XXXdeath/GS/ZAF/KIA/PL/MM/RZR/MH/WI/CoT/SoT as bad as minor threat may be, your posting is worse, please stop
Calindoth Caldari Militant Mermen Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.01 04:12:00 - [34] Says someone in atlas, the second -a- takes a break from helping you kill RA things take a drastic turn for the worst, I have never seen a leader blue ball his fleets more than bobby did
Shiu Gallente EtE Clan Varangians.	Posted - 2009.09.01 09:11:00 - [35] The reason why Sc0rched Earth is slowly folding, is that the previous leadership decided that the amount of metagaming going on was not worth it. A good bunch of the PVP corps left the alliance when that happened, even though some corps stayed and tried to make it work, it appears that it didnt. You can speculate all you want about the fact that BYRN decided to blue Atlas and friends. But at the time it happened, there was no other choice. All major allies at the time were busy fighting elsewhere. Despite heroic efforts to convince the leadership at the time, that help would have come, you know as well as I do, that would not have happened. Apart from that, BYRN didnt really owe anything to anyone, not even TCF who was just an absent landlord who would not let BYRN actively take part in any of the major conflicts going on, nor would they let BYRN get access to the R64's, instead it was given to carebears who did NOTHING to defend the area. But hey.. Its always great to be able to know better when viewing things from the sideline right? "This long run is a misleading guide to current affairs - In the long run we are all dead." - John Maynard Keynes
Deltaprimus Caldari Shadow Legion. Maru Ka'ge	Posted - 2009.09.01 22:47:00 - [36] Originally by: Juilus Carnius Originally by: Ibaneez lights a candle hope it helps that helps like driving a railroad spike into my sack Has to be the funniest thing ive read all year in this forum! actually couldtn breathe laughing when i saw that one haha! ------------------------- (Join the Shadow)
Mia Archer Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.01 23:54:00 - [37] Edited by: Mia Archer on 01/09/2009 23:54:55 Originally by: Shiu The reason why Sc0rched Earth is slowly folding, is that the previous leadership decided that the amount of metagaming going on was not worth it. A good bunch of the PVP corps left the alliance when that happened, even though some corps stayed and tried to make it work, it appears that it didnt. You can speculate all you want about the fact that BYRN decided to blue Atlas and friends. But at the time it happened, there was no other choice. All major allies at the time were busy fighting elsewhere. Despite heroic efforts to convince the leadership at the time, that help would have come, you know as well as I do, that would not have happened. Apart from that, BYRN didnt really owe anything to anyone, not even TCF who was just an absent landlord who would not let BYRN actively take part in any of the major conflicts going on, nor would they let BYRN get access to the R64's, instead it was given to carebears who did NOTHING to defend the area. But hey.. Its always great to be able to know better when viewing things from the sideline right? Thats true in some ways, but i think TNT would disagree with your belief that they had no other choice, they did have a choice. BYRN chose to switch sides and lose any chance of anyone trusting them enough to help them gain space or give them space again so that it could live a little bit longer in the space that it had. Would they have lost their space had they not switched sides, yes most likely and I don't think anyone with half a brain would dispute otherwise. They would however have had a chance to take back that space with help from their allies. Instead they chose to switch sides to keep their space a little longer in return for losing all chance of anyone helping them take its back when they finally lost it. Even if BYRN had not totaly fail cascaded and miraculously Atlas and -A- retook wicked creek they sure as hell would never have given it back to BYRN, simply because BYRN jumping ship to join their side means that they cant really trust BYRN's loyalty anymore than anyone else can. anyway there is my somewhat intelligent post for the month and ill get back to only making horrible troll posts.
Takarina Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.02 07:57:00 - [38] Edited by: Takarina on 02/09/2009 07:58:08 Originally by: Shiu Would they have lost their space had they not switched sides, yes most likely and I don't think anyone with half a brain would dispute otherwise. They would however have had a chance to take back that space with help from their allies. Exactly this. BYRN leadership failed to see this option. They could have just picked up and moved to Curse and run WOLFPAX thru WC space all day until allies got back there after helping RA. Also to refute an earlier post, KOS switched sides and that kinda worked out for them, for awhile anyway.
Shiu Gallente EtE Clan Varangians.	Posted - 2009.09.03 01:57:00 - [39] Originally by: Mia Archer Edited by: Mia Archer on 01/09/2009 23:54:55 Thats true in some ways, but i think TNT would disagree with your belief that they had no other choice, they did have a choice. BYRN chose to switch sides and lose any chance of anyone trusting them enough to help them gain space or give them space again so that it could live a little bit longer in the space that it had. Would they have lost their space had they not switched sides, yes most likely and I don't think anyone with half a brain would dispute otherwise. They would however have had a chance to take back that space with help from their allies. Instead they chose to switch sides to keep their space a little longer in return for losing all chance of anyone helping them take its back when they finally lost it. Even if BYRN had not totaly fail cascaded and miraculously Atlas and -A- retook wicked creek they sure as hell would never have given it back to BYRN, simply because BYRN jumping ship to join their side means that they cant really trust BYRN's loyalty anymore than anyone else can. anyway there is my somewhat intelligent post for the month and ill get back to only making horrible troll posts. Yeah to a large degree you are right there. Reason for the switch was not only based on hostilities either. Much of BYRN leadership was burned out. In retrospect what killed BYRN (imho) was the rapid growth that happened after Aggression had attacked. Too many corps came in with nothing but deadweight. Some people in BYRN went above and beyond to get things rolling. My personal guess is, if BYRN had moved to an NPC area like curse, BYRN would have fallen apart anyways, since it already had some signs of it. It was a longshot, which went the wrong way. Personally the best time I had there was when we helped RA against ED/IRC. Good fun, unfortunately it ended too early. "This long run is a misleading guide to current affairs - In the long run we are all dead." - John Maynard Keynes
Juilus Carnius Caldari Powerthirst inc. Exiliar Syndicate	Posted - 2009.09.04 00:11:00 - [40] So you are saying that the same thing that cause aggro to fail caused byrn to fail?
Shiu Gallente EtE Clan Varangians.	Posted - 2009.09.04 00:16:00 - [41] Originally by: Juilus Carnius So you are saying that the same thing that cause aggro to fail caused byrn to fail? Very likely. But it was one of many things :) "This long run is a misleading guide to current affairs - In the long run we are all dead." - John Maynard Keynes

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