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Techtriz
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Posted - 2004.10.18 10:13:00 -
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Which battleship do you think is the best for NPCing, except from the obvious cheap Amarr ships, and how do you prefer to have them fitted for NPCing?
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Techtriz
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Posted - 2004.10.18 10:13:00 -
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Which battleship do you think is the best for NPCing, except from the obvious cheap Amarr ships, and how do you prefer to have them fitted for NPCing?
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2004.10.18 10:25:00 -
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Megathron / Raven. Raven obviously if youve got money to spare.
Megathron loaded with 425mm's, sensor boosters, trackiong comps, damage mods. Make bookmarks at 120km from the belt and snipe.
Raven sieges with torps / cruises. 2 M blasters, lasers, whatever floats yer boat. Have a mate in a frig collect all the loot, recycle and build new missiles from that.
And just on a sidenote...Hunting with Amarr BS isnt cheap atall. You usually carry about 20mill worth of ammo in yer hold. (4 * 8 crystals) Can buy a whole lot of L ammo for that money. Just the logistics are easier.
/Elve
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2004.10.18 10:25:00 -
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Megathron / Raven. Raven obviously if youve got money to spare.
Megathron loaded with 425mm's, sensor boosters, trackiong comps, damage mods. Make bookmarks at 120km from the belt and snipe.
Raven sieges with torps / cruises. 2 M blasters, lasers, whatever floats yer boat. Have a mate in a frig collect all the loot, recycle and build new missiles from that.
And just on a sidenote...Hunting with Amarr BS isnt cheap atall. You usually carry about 20mill worth of ammo in yer hold. (4 * 8 crystals) Can buy a whole lot of L ammo for that money. Just the logistics are easier.
/Elve
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.10.19 08:41:00 -
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Hmm I can't do nearly enough damage at long range with the 425mms. The long range ammo just doesnt cut it against those npc battleships. Even cruisers are hard. Aren't the Apocalypse and escpecially the Raven much better? The Raven should do high damage a longer ranges just like at close range, no?
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.10.19 08:41:00 -
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Hmm I can't do nearly enough damage at long range with the 425mms. The long range ammo just doesnt cut it against those npc battleships. Even cruisers are hard. Aren't the Apocalypse and escpecially the Raven much better? The Raven should do high damage a longer ranges just like at close range, no?
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Garric Vor'g
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Posted - 2004.10.19 08:48:00 -
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I've seen a Tempest used with great success, the friend who used this has taken on 3x bs spawns, the spawn was 1x 6mil and 2x 750k, he was unable to kill the 6mil himself, but he was able to tank the whole spawn by himself, until he killed both 750k's and took the 6mil into armor at which time he finally got some help. Wish i knew the setup he used.... if i can find out i'll try and remember to post it.
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Garric Vor'g
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Posted - 2004.10.19 08:48:00 -
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I've seen a Tempest used with great success, the friend who used this has taken on 3x bs spawns, the spawn was 1x 6mil and 2x 750k, he was unable to kill the 6mil himself, but he was able to tank the whole spawn by himself, until he killed both 750k's and took the 6mil into armor at which time he finally got some help. Wish i knew the setup he used.... if i can find out i'll try and remember to post it.
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Magorath
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Posted - 2004.10.19 10:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Elve Sorrow
And just on a sidenote...Hunting with Amarr BS isnt cheap atall. You usually carry about 20mill worth of ammo in yer hold. (4 * 8 crystals) Can buy a whole lot of L ammo for that money. Just the logistics are easier.
Not if you loot the crystals.
I've had a lot of sucess with a megathron and large lasers.
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Magorath
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Posted - 2004.10.19 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow
And just on a sidenote...Hunting with Amarr BS isnt cheap atall. You usually carry about 20mill worth of ammo in yer hold. (4 * 8 crystals) Can buy a whole lot of L ammo for that money. Just the logistics are easier.
Not if you loot the crystals.
I've had a lot of sucess with a megathron and large lasers.
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2004.10.19 10:09:00 -
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Obviously not if you loot the crystals. Then again, need to buy crystals to be able to shoot rats, to be able to loot them, no? And youre still losing 20mill if the ship blows up.
/Elve
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2004.10.19 10:09:00 -
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Obviously not if you loot the crystals. Then again, need to buy crystals to be able to shoot rats, to be able to loot them, no? And youre still losing 20mill if the ship blows up.
/Elve
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Xtro 2
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Posted - 2004.10.19 10:19:00 -
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Tanked megathron for close/mid combat is the only lower tech solution to an apocalypse.
7x350x rails (plutonium/antimatter), 1x rocket launcher (defenders)
rest same as youd fit to a apoc ie: 4x cap recharger 2's, and standard/typical dual repair 3xarmour harden/1x cap power relay setup.
Easy...
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Xtro 2
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Posted - 2004.10.19 10:19:00 -
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Tanked megathron for close/mid combat is the only lower tech solution to an apocalypse.
7x350x rails (plutonium/antimatter), 1x rocket launcher (defenders)
rest same as youd fit to a apoc ie: 4x cap recharger 2's, and standard/typical dual repair 3xarmour harden/1x cap power relay setup.
Easy...
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FZappa
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Posted - 2004.10.19 10:32:00 -
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Edited by: FZappa on 19/10/2004 10:36:09
Originally by: Techtriz
Which battleship do you think is the best for NPCing, except from the obvious cheap Amarr ships, and how do you prefer to have them fitted for NPCing?
bloods : apoc
serps : mega
guris : dunno , havent hunted guris .
sansha : apoc
ravens will do well on any spawn , but the missile costs will
be high . a mega will struggle a bit on certain NPC types
specialy those who like to stay long range or have high resistence vs thermal and kinetic .
P.S
megathron and large lasers is well... sad 
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FZappa
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Posted - 2004.10.19 10:32:00 -
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Edited by: FZappa on 19/10/2004 10:36:09
Originally by: Techtriz
Which battleship do you think is the best for NPCing, except from the obvious cheap Amarr ships, and how do you prefer to have them fitted for NPCing?
bloods : apoc
serps : mega
guris : dunno , havent hunted guris .
sansha : apoc
ravens will do well on any spawn , but the missile costs will
be high . a mega will struggle a bit on certain NPC types
specialy those who like to stay long range or have high resistence vs thermal and kinetic .
P.S
megathron and large lasers is well... sad
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Stufico
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Posted - 2004.10.19 18:30:00 -
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I fly a mega for npcing,it is tough, but with good skills on your character and in hunting it can be done well. my setup is 6x 425 with 1 siege and 1 cruise. my midslots are 4 cap 2's and my lows are currently 1 pdu, 2 cap relay 1 large accomidator 2 n type kinetic and 1 n type thermic.
i am currently hunting serpentis, this setup is able to use torps, because close range megathrons = lots of damage. the key is not to get to worried until you hit around 10% armor and you show no sign of progression. I can take a double elder 1 mill spawn, by simply moving away from the spawn and attacking the cruisers. this lures one elder away from the other and accomplishes alot, because cruisers add up in damage. once you take the first elder, you can take the second elder. i currently use urnaium, because dominix's and elders stay in the range of 39-45km and that is the optimal range for 425's and that ammo. plus serpentis do thermal and kinetic, but more kinetic than thermal. so 2 kinetic and 1 thermal. if you can figure out what they are weak to and what damage they do, it is benifical cause armor tanks are made and broke by that knowledge. there is an excellent post on the bounty hunters and the type of damage they do and what their resistences are. check it out. the most important thing is, know your limits of your ship and how you can take spawns that could otherwise own you by using a bit of skill to win. it is well worth it.
-Stufico
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Stufico
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Posted - 2004.10.19 18:30:00 -
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I fly a mega for npcing,it is tough, but with good skills on your character and in hunting it can be done well. my setup is 6x 425 with 1 siege and 1 cruise. my midslots are 4 cap 2's and my lows are currently 1 pdu, 2 cap relay 1 large accomidator 2 n type kinetic and 1 n type thermic.
i am currently hunting serpentis, this setup is able to use torps, because close range megathrons = lots of damage. the key is not to get to worried until you hit around 10% armor and you show no sign of progression. I can take a double elder 1 mill spawn, by simply moving away from the spawn and attacking the cruisers. this lures one elder away from the other and accomplishes alot, because cruisers add up in damage. once you take the first elder, you can take the second elder. i currently use urnaium, because dominix's and elders stay in the range of 39-45km and that is the optimal range for 425's and that ammo. plus serpentis do thermal and kinetic, but more kinetic than thermal. so 2 kinetic and 1 thermal. if you can figure out what they are weak to and what damage they do, it is benifical cause armor tanks are made and broke by that knowledge. there is an excellent post on the bounty hunters and the type of damage they do and what their resistences are. check it out. the most important thing is, know your limits of your ship and how you can take spawns that could otherwise own you by using a bit of skill to win. it is well worth it.
-Stufico
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Geoff W
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Posted - 2004.10.19 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Stufico
I fly a mega for npcing,it is tough, but with good skills on your character and in hunting it can be done well. my setup is 6x 425 with 1 siege and 1 cruise. my midslots are 4 cap 2's and my lows are currently 1 pdu, 2 cap relay 1 large accomidator 2 n type kinetic and 1 n type thermic.
i am currently hunting serpentis, this setup is able to use torps, because close range megathrons = lots of damage. the key is not to get to worried until you hit around 10% armor and you show no sign of progression. I can take a double elder 1 mill spawn, by simply moving away from the spawn and attacking the cruisers. this lures one elder away from the other and accomplishes alot, because cruisers add up in damage. once you take the first elder, you can take the second elder. i currently use urnaium, because dominix's and elders stay in the range of 39-45km and that is the optimal range for 425's and that ammo. plus serpentis do thermal and kinetic, but more kinetic than thermal. so 2 kinetic and 1 thermal. if you can figure out what they are weak to and what damage they do, it is benifical cause armor tanks are made and broke by that knowledge. there is an excellent post on the bounty hunters and the type of damage they do and what their resistences are. check it out. the most important thing is, know your limits of your ship and how you can take spawns that could otherwise own you by using a bit of skill to win. it is well worth it.
-Stufico
whats the grid useage on that Mega?
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Geoff W
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Posted - 2004.10.19 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Stufico
I fly a mega for npcing,it is tough, but with good skills on your character and in hunting it can be done well. my setup is 6x 425 with 1 siege and 1 cruise. my midslots are 4 cap 2's and my lows are currently 1 pdu, 2 cap relay 1 large accomidator 2 n type kinetic and 1 n type thermic.
i am currently hunting serpentis, this setup is able to use torps, because close range megathrons = lots of damage. the key is not to get to worried until you hit around 10% armor and you show no sign of progression. I can take a double elder 1 mill spawn, by simply moving away from the spawn and attacking the cruisers. this lures one elder away from the other and accomplishes alot, because cruisers add up in damage. once you take the first elder, you can take the second elder. i currently use urnaium, because dominix's and elders stay in the range of 39-45km and that is the optimal range for 425's and that ammo. plus serpentis do thermal and kinetic, but more kinetic than thermal. so 2 kinetic and 1 thermal. if you can figure out what they are weak to and what damage they do, it is benifical cause armor tanks are made and broke by that knowledge. there is an excellent post on the bounty hunters and the type of damage they do and what their resistences are. check it out. the most important thing is, know your limits of your ship and how you can take spawns that could otherwise own you by using a bit of skill to win. it is well worth it.
-Stufico
whats the grid useage on that Mega?
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Grim Vandal
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Posted - 2004.10.19 21:46:00 -
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dominix
4 heavy pulse lasers (medium guns)
2 heavy nos
1 100mn mwd
4 cap recharger (at least named or tech 2)
2 large armor rep (named are of course better)
3 armor hardeners
2 cap power relays
and 30 heavy drones in your drone bay
I'll take on spawns of 1x 1,5 mil and 2x 1 mill plus a few intys and or cruisers all on my own without any problems ...
drones are still the bomb and will do the job for you ... the 4 heavy pulse lasers (multi crystals) range 8 km  are some little extra firepower...
you want to be close and fast (mwd) since you want all that loot right? even more that way you dont need a single 1m¦ of your cargo room therefor you have it all for precious loot.
this is one of the best and cheapest setups you could use for npc hunting ...
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Grim Vandal
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Posted - 2004.10.19 21:46:00 -
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dominix
4 heavy pulse lasers (medium guns)
2 heavy nos
1 100mn mwd
4 cap recharger (at least named or tech 2)
2 large armor rep (named are of course better)
3 armor hardeners
2 cap power relays
and 30 heavy drones in your drone bay
I'll take on spawns of 1x 1,5 mil and 2x 1 mill plus a few intys and or cruisers all on my own without any problems ...
drones are still the bomb and will do the job for you ... the 4 heavy pulse lasers (multi crystals) range 8 km are some little extra firepower...
you want to be close and fast (mwd) since you want all that loot right? even more that way you dont need a single 1m¦ of your cargo room therefor you have it all for precious loot.
this is one of the best and cheapest setups you could use for npc hunting ...
Greetings Grim |
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