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sweetrock
State War Academy Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2012.06.03 08:52:00 -
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In all honesty, if CCP removed plex from the game, would you still play?
Could you find it in your heart to pay -ú9.99 no wait sorry 14.99e no wait i swear that e-mail said -ú9.99 who knows, ccp arnt sure....... Would you still play if you had to pay? |

Krota Hetei
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.03 08:53:00 -
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The people buying Plex to sell, obviously think it's worth paying to pay play. Since they are paying twice over. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2295
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Posted - 2012.06.03 09:04:00 -
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I've never used a PLEX to pay for subscription.
I usually pay for 1 year subscription with a Credit Card, it's the best deal of all and I don't have to worry about my subscription each month.
DMC |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
363
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Posted - 2012.06.03 09:06:00 -
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Absolutely. For its laundry list of faults, it's the most unique game going right now. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1538
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Posted - 2012.06.03 09:10:00 -
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It is significantly cheaper from a time investment perspective to pony over the subscription. If it takes you less time to make 500m ISK than it does to make $15, then you ought to re-evaluate your priorities.
Also, EVE is the only MMO I can play without cursing the developers and burning out after a few weeks. It is not nearly as demanding of your time, and is completely free-form. I won't be playing another MMO, likely ever. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
717
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Posted - 2012.06.03 09:16:00 -
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I haven't had to pay a subscription or get PLEX off the market for a while
space communism owns let me tell you eh |

sweetrock
State War Academy Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2012.06.03 10:46:00 -
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Abandoning thread. Mission failed -20 cool points  |

Ituhata Saken
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
212
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Posted - 2012.06.03 12:27:00 -
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I paid 15$ a month to play WoW for nearly 7 months just to log in, stand around in Orgrimmar, and eventually log off because I was tired of doing anything remotely productive in-game. It was really hard to let go of since I had put so much time and effort into my character but I finally had to admit that I was no longer having fun. I'm not rich or anything, to me 15$ is such a small portion of my monthly income that it's a non-issue, but there's no sense in giving away 15$ for a product that's no longer useful to you.
That being said, I made up my mind about EvE last time around that on principle alone I will not spend more than a monthly subscription to play, if I can't make this game enjoyable without resorting to the plex/iwin/free isk button then I don't need ot be playing. You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~ |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.06.03 12:31:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:It is significantly cheaper from a time investment perspective to pony over the subscription. If it takes you less time to make 500m ISK than it does to make $15, then you ought to re-evaluate your priorities.
Probably in most poor countries, in richest ones if you can't make 15$ per hour you did it all wrong. |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
267
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Posted - 2012.06.03 12:35:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:I've never used a PLEX to pay for subscription.
I usually pay for 1 year subscription with a Credit Card, it's the best deal of all and I don't have to worry about my subscription each month.
DMC
Same here.
Then what I earn in Eve I can afford to lose in Eve. You want fries with that? |

George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2012.06.03 12:48:00 -
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sweetrock wrote:In all honesty, if CCP removed plex from the game, would you still play?
I probably will. Considering I have played this game since 2010 now, and never paid for my game time with PLEX so far... 
"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread |

George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2012.06.03 12:50:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:It is significantly cheaper from a time investment perspective to pony over the subscription. If it takes you less time to make 500m ISK than it does to make $15, then you ought to re-evaluate your priorities. Probably in most poor countries, in richest ones if you can't make 15$ per hour you did it all wrong.
Indeed. I live and work in Norway, and probably make around $50 per hour. Not sure if Akirei Scytale really thought this through. "I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread |

Shukuzen Kiraa
Viziam Amarr Empire
144
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Posted - 2012.06.03 12:58:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Absolutely. For its laundry list of faults, it's the most unique game going right now.
This |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
353
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Posted - 2012.06.03 13:02:00 -
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Probably won't, but not because of me not going to pay for the subs, most likely will be because my friends who use PLEXes would stop playing. "Eve isnGÇÖt some welcoming online utopia: itGÇÖs cut-throat, cruel, atavistic despite the futuristic setting. Give people a sandbox, and theyGÇÖll throw the sand in a rivalGÇÖs eyes before kicking them in the shins and destroying their sandcastle." -Keza MacDonald, IGN. |

Rajan Marelona
Hedion University Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.06.03 13:16:00 -
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George Whitebread wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:It is significantly cheaper from a time investment perspective to pony over the subscription. If it takes you less time to make 500m ISK than it does to make $15, then you ought to re-evaluate your priorities. Probably in most poor countries, in richest ones if you can't make 15$ per hour you did it all wrong. Indeed. I live and work in Norway, and probably make around $50 per hour. Not sure if Akirei Scytale really thought this through. You understood it backwards. Akirei Scytale said "LESS" not "more". If it takes less time to make 500m ISK compared to making 15$, assuming that you make at most 200m ISK per hour but probably much less, that means you make at most 7$ per hour but probably a lot less. |

Kill Rockstar
Perkone Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.06.03 13:19:00 -
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33p a day is a lot of money.  |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2012.06.03 13:25:00 -
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Rajan Marelona wrote:George Whitebread wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:It is significantly cheaper from a time investment perspective to pony over the subscription. If it takes you less time to make 500m ISK than it does to make $15, then you ought to re-evaluate your priorities. Probably in most poor countries, in richest ones if you can't make 15$ per hour you did it all wrong. Indeed. I live and work in Norway, and probably make around $50 per hour. Not sure if Akirei Scytale really thought this through. You understood it backwards. Akirei Scytale said "LESS" not "more". If it takes less time to make 500m ISK compared to making 15$, assuming that you make at most 200m ISK per hour but probably much less, that means you make at most 7$ per hour but probably a lot less.
If you can make 500M/h but not $15/h there's still a problem.
However with a single char make 500M/h is impossible, the ratio isk/h is quite limited, however a very few dudes can but those are really exceptions and I don't believe they can do this ratio every time they log unless trading. |

Rajan Marelona
Hedion University Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.06.03 13:26:00 -
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If you make 1$/hour working in RL, you should pay cash if you make under 25 mil ISK/hour, buy PLEX with ISK if you make more. If you make 7$/hour working in RL, you should pay cash if you make under 180 mil ISK/hour, buy PLEX with ISK if you make more. If you make 15$/hour working in RL, you should pay cash if you make under 385 mil ISK/hour, buy PLEX with ISK if you make more. If you make 30$/hour working in RL, you should pay cash if you make under 770 mil ISK/hour, buy PLEX with ISK if you make more. |

Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
105
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Posted - 2012.06.03 13:27:00 -
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George Whitebread wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:It is significantly cheaper from a time investment perspective to pony over the subscription. If it takes you less time to make 500m ISK than it does to make $15, then you ought to re-evaluate your priorities. Probably in most poor countries, in richest ones if you can't make 15$ per hour you did it all wrong. Indeed. I live and work in Norway, and probably make around $50 per hour. Not sure if Akirei Scytale really thought this through.
In my country people earn average 300-350 euro per month and they work minium 10hours per day, like ordinary people, manuals workers, confectioner, baker etc, is realy low payment while i compare payment to most rich countrys in EU 1200-1400euro per month, form this money they need pay for all kind of rent every month + food and all is expensive, however in my country is big payment dispresion, some people earn even 500-600euro, but in most cases ordinary people cant easy aford monthy onlines games payment, if you got like 350 euro per month and after paying all rent you need thinking how to survive next month...
Back to OP, even i living in poor country driung my game period i spent xxx euro so far to buy GTC Form CCP, i would pay always real money if i can aford this, but to be honest i cant aford this every month by this way so if possible i use plexes.
Answer to OP, if ccp remove plexes i will try to pay normal money so long as i got abbility to aford it.
Ps. Sorry for my grammar. |

Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
107
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Posted - 2012.06.03 13:30:00 -
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Rajan Marelona wrote:If you make 1$/hour working in RL, you should pay cash if you make under 25 mil ISK/hour, buy PLEX with ISK if you make more. If you make 7$/hour working in RL, you should pay cash if you make under 180 mil ISK/hour, buy PLEX with ISK if you make more. If you make 15$/hour working in RL, you should pay cash if you make under 385 mil ISK/hour, buy PLEX with ISK if you make more. If you make 30$/hour working in RL, you should pay cash if you make under 770 mil ISK/hour, buy PLEX with ISK if you make more.
I like your idea, payment depend idividual countrys economy conditions, but life is brutal, no marer where you living and how much you earn you always pay same amount of money like other. |

Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
382
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Posted - 2012.06.03 13:34:00 -
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I hate carebearing with a passion, so I'd be really bummed. Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter |

Jame Jarl Retief
Corps Diplomatique Terrestrienne
129
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Posted - 2012.06.03 13:41:00 -
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Honestly? No, no I wouldn't. Not 100% sure, but about 85% sure. I might come back, check out the latest expansion about twice a year, but that's about it.
It's the same deal as recently released Tera Online. I would play it if it was F2P. But at $15/mo, it's just not worth it. Note: I'm not saying I can't afford it, I'm saying that from a responsible consumer's point of view I can't justify throwing my money at an inferior product.
From where I'm sitting, decision-makers at CCP are their own worst enemy. The game could be very, VERY far ahead of where it is today, if they made simple, intelligent choices and made simple, intelligent modifications to the game. As it applies to EVE, I can't see myself spending money on an MMO that doesn't even have the ability to change the font or scale size. And no, I don't consider 100%-110%-125% and that's it a viable UI scaling system. I like to play on high resolution on big screen, and even at 125% it's still too damn small.
Until CCP starts fixing this very, very basic stuff that has been pretty much a standard feature for games post-2002, I don't see myself paying them for it. I'm not even talking "gankers vs miners" or the colossal failure that was Incarna. I mean very, very basic usability features. |

Hathrul
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
91
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Posted - 2012.06.03 13:44:00 -
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i would still be playing. just not sure if i would have 4 active accounts all the time |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1543
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Posted - 2012.06.03 14:25:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:It is significantly cheaper from a time investment perspective to pony over the subscription. If it takes you less time to make 500m ISK than it does to make $15, then you ought to re-evaluate your priorities. Probably in most poor countries, in richest ones if you can't make 15$ per hour you did it all wrong.
I grew up in countries like Ecuador and Thailand. Even there, if you have an internet connection, I can pretty much guarantee you will make $15 faster. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
159
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Posted - 2012.06.03 14:25:00 -
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If you play for fun, and you have 500M left over at the end of the month then you should buy PLEX.
If its a game then its wrong to compare it to work unless you work for fun also. |

George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2012.06.03 14:29:00 -
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Rajan Marelona wrote:George Whitebread wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:It is significantly cheaper from a time investment perspective to pony over the subscription. If it takes you less time to make 500m ISK than it does to make $15, then you ought to re-evaluate your priorities. Probably in most poor countries, in richest ones if you can't make 15$ per hour you did it all wrong. Indeed. I live and work in Norway, and probably make around $50 per hour. Not sure if Akirei Scytale really thought this through. You understood it backwards. Akirei Scytale said "LESS" not "more". If it takes less time to make 500m ISK compared to making 15$, assuming that you make at most 200m ISK per hour but probably much less, that means you make at most 7$ per hour but probably a lot less.
Ah... true. Sorry about that. "I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1150
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Posted - 2012.06.03 15:06:00 -
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sweetrock wrote:In all honesty, if CCP removed plex from the game, would you still play?
Could you find it in your heart to pay -ú9.99 no wait sorry 14.99e no wait i swear that e-mail said -ú9.99 who knows, ccp arnt sure....... Would you still play if you had to pay? Why are you still here?
Haven't you been quitting for weeks now? For someone tired of the game, you sure aren't tired of the forums.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |

Roisin Saoirse
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2012.06.03 15:42:00 -
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I mostly paid for my main account with -ú, but my alt accounts were paid for with PLEX. If PLEX hadn't been around I'd have just stuck with a single account, so in answer to the OP yes and no.  |

sweetrock
State War Academy Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2012.06.03 15:43:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:sweetrock wrote:In all honesty, if CCP removed plex from the game, would you still play?
Could you find it in your heart to pay -ú9.99 no wait sorry 14.99e no wait i swear that e-mail said -ú9.99 who knows, ccp arnt sure....... Would you still play if you had to pay? Why are you still here? Haven't you been quitting for weeks now? For someone tired of the game, you sure aren't tired of the forums.
it hasnt even been 2 weeks yet, and im jsut waiting for subscirptions to expire that is all. |

Len Ross
Federal Trading and Transport
1
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Posted - 2012.06.03 16:00:00 -
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No. I can't, so wouldn't. I'm unemployed now. 9.99 a month is a small fortune to me. I've more time than money right now. |
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