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Turiel Demon Minmatar Shadow Reapers	Posted - 2009.09.07 07:24:00 - [1] To people who deal with serious amounts of isk 'just' 'fair' 'rightful' etc. aren't as important as that they know they will do business safely. Sure F9 is ok if you want to trade a collectors item or two (unless maybe they were liberated from a station that he had friends in) or even to secure an MS trade (unless it was bought via a scam maybe)... You can be neutral, or you can judge your clients, F9 has chosen his route. Keep using him only if you're sure your morality is in perfect alignment with his and you've never strayed from the 'true path' which he holds to. Also, it has come to my attention that I'm really in need of a proper signature.
Turiel Demon Minmatar Shadow Reapers	Posted - 2009.09.07 08:07:00 - [2] Originally by: Lana's Alt Originally by: Dianabolic How on earth can his sense of justice prevail if his client is actually selling "their own" stuff? (ie, it is actually theirs and not stolen) Does not compute. I thought I put it pretty clearly im my previous post.. If you sell things through F90 now it doesn't matter if its your own stuff or not, it now matters if he believes its your stuff.. So.. We'll try a couple of different scenarios that I hope will help. Scenario 1 - Clear cut I take a Nyx from Person A. I offer it up for sale and use F90 as a 3rd party. Person A complains to F90 and he sees what I have done and returns the Nyx to Person A leaving me with nothing. Essentially this is what he has done here, and you believe this is the right thing to do. Scenario 2 - Muddy Waters I have a Nyx and I offer it for sale using F90 as a 3rd party. Before it sells I manage to take a Nyx from Person A. Person A complains to F90 that I stole a Nyx and I have a Nyx for sale through him. Its obvious what I have done.. Does F90 return the other Nyx to make up for the loss? Should he? Scenario 3 - The con I have a Nyx and I offer it for sale using F90 as a 3rd party. Person A doesn't like me very much and fabricates a lot of evidence that I stole the Nyx from him. Person A complains to F90 that I stole the Nyx from him. F90 believes him. Does F90 return the Nyx? Obviously he shouldn't, but he doesn't know its a con, so im going with yes he will. Scenario 4 - Friends helping friends I have a Nyx and I offer it for sale using F90 as a 3rd party. My alliance is at war with another alliance and im going to use the ISK to help fund the war. F90 is friendly with the alliance I am at war with. He is asked (even pressured) buy the other alliance to give them the Nyx. Will he give it to them? My whole point is, in a situation where you are relying 100% on trust, why would you trust someone that has already proven they cant be trusted? Thank you, you're better at thinking up scenarios than me Clear enough for everyone now? Also, it has come to my attention that I'm really in need of a proper signature.

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