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Serenity Lucifari	Posted - 2009.09.07 14:27:00 - [1] Ok so heres the deal, i am by no means a nublet when it comes to pcs it should be added, right so to the point /my keyboarvd is going nuts it does random things and i think the mobo is to blame. Random eg: some keys open programs with no hotkeys assigned. Some keys close programs / do the odd **** in this thread... etc all at random... sometimes it even works fine... the ps/2 port is officially dead and its only my keyboard with no regard to what usb port its hooked ot... and only this keyboard even remotely works... mobo = 680i evga with latest bios ironicly though everything else works fine... what do ya'll think. (ive tried 2 other keyboards both usb / ps/2 and both brand new) sorry about the crap formatting / spelling... the keyboard... well you get the idea... posted with an alt cus i can't be arsed to change it atm.
Another Liberthas Caldari Ha'Menudim SCUM.	Posted - 2009.09.07 14:33:00 - [2] If you think the motherboard is to blame, try replacing it?
Serenity Lucifari	Posted - 2009.09.07 14:36:00 - [3] dont have a spare one on hand unfortunatly and im waiting on evga to get back to me. the messed up thing is is that i've never had this issue with the cheapest of mobo's eg ECS but i get something nice and it only lasts 14 months lol =P At this point i've tried about everything else anyway just figured i'd get some input since there is always someone who knows more than you.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.07 14:39:00 - [4] Originally by: Serenity Lucifari dont have a spare one on hand unfortunatly and im waiting on evga to get back to me. the messed up thing is is that i've never had this issue with the cheapest of mobo's eg ECS but i get something nice and it only lasts 14 months lol =P At this point i've tried about everything else anyway just figured i'd get some input since there is always someone who knows more than you. This might sound very simple, but have you tried completely reformatting your computer and seeing if the issue persists on a clean install? _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Serenity Lucifari	Posted - 2009.09.07 14:45:00 - [5] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Serenity Lucifari dont have a spare one on hand unfortunatly and im waiting on evga to get back to me. the messed up thing is is that i've never had this issue with the cheapest of mobo's eg ECS but i get something nice and it only lasts 14 months lol =P At this point i've tried about everything else anyway just figured i'd get some input since there is always someone who knows more than you. This might sound very simple, but have you tried completely reformatting your computer and seeing if the issue persists on a clean install? yeah i did m8, took me a few hours cus vista 64 is a dirty expletive deleted to install but yeah i tried it... ran an sfc, checked for disk errors, corrupt drivers, firmware etc even tried yanking anything not needed and its still f'n up... though this just in now i no longer have sound... or rather windows is showing i have sound yet i have none at the speakers.... so it probably is the mobo... assuming there is nothing else that can cause a near complete peripheral meltdown so to speak.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.07 14:48:00 - [6] Originally by: Serenity Lucifari Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Serenity Lucifari dont have a spare one on hand unfortunatly and im waiting on evga to get back to me. the messed up thing is is that i've never had this issue with the cheapest of mobo's eg ECS but i get something nice and it only lasts 14 months lol =P At this point i've tried about everything else anyway just figured i'd get some input since there is always someone who knows more than you. This might sound very simple, but have you tried completely reformatting your computer and seeing if the issue persists on a clean install? yeah i did m8, took me a few hours cus vista 64 is a dirty expletive deleted to install but yeah i tried it... ran an sfc, checked for disk errors, corrupt drivers, firmware etc even tried yanking anything not needed and its still f'n up... though this just in now i no longer have sound... or rather windows is showing i have sound yet i have none at the speakers.... so it probably is the mobo... assuming there is nothing else that can cause a near complete peripheral meltdown so to speak. Yeah. You're motherboard is most likely dying. Out of interest, what type of PSU do you have? _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Serenity Lucifari	Posted - 2009.09.07 14:59:00 - [7] Edited by: Serenity Lucifari on 07/09/2009 15:03:01 Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Serenity Lucifari Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Serenity Lucifari dont have a spare one on hand unfortunatly and im waiting on evga to get back to me. the messed up thing is is that i've never had this issue with the cheapest of mobo's eg ECS but i get something nice and it only lasts 14 months lol =P At this point i've tried about everything else anyway just figured i'd get some input since there is always someone who knows more than you. This might sound very simple, but have you tried completely reformatting your computer and seeing if the issue persists on a clean install? yeah i did m8, took me a few hours cus vista 64 is a dirty expletive deleted to install but yeah i tried it... ran an sfc, checked for disk errors, corrupt drivers, firmware etc even tried yanking anything not needed and its still f'n up... though this just in now i no longer have sound... or rather windows is showing i have sound yet i have none at the speakers.... so it probably is the mobo... assuming there is nothing else that can cause a near complete peripheral meltdown so to speak. Yeah. You're motherboard is most likely dying. Out of interest, what type of PSU do you have? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256006 Model Brand SILVERSTONE Model ST75ZF Spec Type ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS12V Maximum Power 750W Fans 1 x 80mm ball bearing fan PFC Active Main Connector 20+4Pin +12V Rails Quad +12V rails PCI-Express Connector 4 x 6-Pin SLI Certified CrossFire Ready Modular No Efficiency > 80% Over Voltage Protection Yes Input Voltage 100 - 240 V Input Frequency Range 47 - 63 Hz Input Current 12 - 6A Output +3.3V@24A, +5V@30A, +12V1@18A, +12V2@18A, +12V3@18A, +12V4@18A, [email protected], [email protected] MTBF 100,000 hours at 25¦C, full load Approvals OCP,OVP,SCP,NLO Features Connectors 1 x 20+4Pin motherboard connector (550mm) 1 x 8Pin EPS12V connector (550mm) 1 x 4Pin ATX12V connector (550mm) 4 x 6Pin PCI-E connector (550mm) 2 x triple SATA connector (500mm +250mm + 250mm) 2 x dual 4Pin IDE & single floppy power connectors (500mm + 250mm + 150mm) 1 x dual 4Pin IDE power connectors (500mm + 250mm) Features Quad +12V rail for superior performance Industrial class components Support for ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS12V Efficiency greater than 80% (max. 86%) And a APC UPS behind that for line conditioning and back up power. Edit: Im only drawing 138w of power from the UPS (of 865w max). That being the case I'm not any where near the theoretical max of the PSU
Fina Kelitan	Posted - 2009.09.07 16:12:00 - [8] Edited by: Fina Kelitan on 07/09/2009 16:12:18 Nice PSU Normally I would say that programs randomly opening and closing and random typing/not typing would be the keyboard itself or a virus, especially for a USB keyboard (which isn't usually handled by the bios/motherboard), but a clean install shakes those theories. Have you tried booting from an Ubuntu Linux cd, just to be sure? No need to install, the cds boot into Linux, letting you test if your problem is Windows-specific or not. If not, it is most likely your motherboard unfortunately. - Experienced EVE player trying a new character
Cardiana	Posted - 2009.09.07 16:20:00 - [9] i was just saying maybe it is one of this joke viruses and not a hardware related issue at all. have you tried using a boot cd?
Serenity Lucifari	Posted - 2009.09.07 16:27:00 - [10] Edited by: Serenity Lucifari on 07/09/2009 16:27:50 Originally by: Fina Kelitan Edited by: Fina Kelitan on 07/09/2009 16:12:18 Nice PSU Normally I would say that programs randomly opening and closing and random typing/not typing would be the keyboard itself or a virus, especially for a USB keyboard (which isn't usually handled by the bios/motherboard), but a clean install shakes those theories. Have you tried booting from an Ubuntu Linux cd, just to be sure? No need to install, the cds boot into Linux, letting you test if your problem is Windows-specific or not. If not, it is most likely your motherboard unfortunately. this is actually a good idea i'll try it now and let you know how it goes. m,m, Originally by: cardiana i was just saying maybe it is one of this joke viruses and not a hardware related issue at all. have you tried using a boot cd? Def not vixcmrvmusm, grrr virus as itsa clean install
Serenity Lucifari	Posted - 2009.09.07 17:00:00 - [11] doing the same thing on ubuntu =(
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.07 17:05:00 - [12] Originally by: Serenity Lucifari doing the same thing on ubuntu =( Sounds like its deffo the motherboard then. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Serenity Lucifari	Posted - 2009.09.07 17:07:00 - [13] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Serenity Lucifari doing the same thing on ubuntu =( Sounds like its deffo the motherboard then. figures you know i have really bad luck with mobo's these day's lol 2 asus m2n-e that wouldnt post and now this oh well hopefully i can get an rma soon
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2009.09.07 17:07:00 - [14] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Serenity Lucifari doing the same thing on ubuntu =( Sounds like its deffo the motherboard then. Yep. Even Vista should be able to read the keyboard without crashing. --- Originally by: Eve Forums ...you are going too fast, wait 5 minutes and try again...you are going too fast, wait 5 minutes and try again...you are going too fast, wait 5 minutes and try again...
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.07 17:11:00 - [15] Originally by: Serenity Lucifari Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Serenity Lucifari doing the same thing on ubuntu =( Sounds like its deffo the motherboard then. figures you know i have really bad luck with mobo's these day's lol 2 asus m2n-e that wouldnt post and now this oh well hopefully i can get an rma soon Go with gigabyte. I've never had an issue with their motherboards and have used them in numerous computer builds. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Serenity Lucifari	Posted - 2009.09.07 17:21:00 - [16] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Serenity Lucifari Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Serenity Lucifari doing the same thing on ubuntu =( Sounds like its deffo the motherboard then. figures you know i have really bad luck with mobo's these day's lol 2 asus m2n-e that wouldnt post and now this oh well hopefully i can get an rma soon Go with gigabyte. I've never had an issue with their motherboards and have used them in numerous computer builds. thanks for the advice
Another Liberthas Caldari Ha'Menudim SCUM.	Posted - 2009.09.07 18:48:00 - [17] Originally by: Blane Xero Go with gigabyte. I've never had an issue with their motherboards and have used them in numerous computer builds. Seconding this. Gigabyte are awesome in my experience. I broke one once, but that was my fault.
KingsGambit Caldari Knights	Posted - 2009.09.07 19:06:00 - [18] That's a really bizarre problem, and in honesty, one I wouldn't have believed without seeing it for myself. If it's doing it in both Windows AND linux, there's definitely a problem. However I'm still inclined towards the fault resting with the keyboard rather than the motherboard. It's also a lot cheaper to find out whether this is the case. Before springing for a new mobo, pick up or borrow any ol', cheap n' nasty QWERTY keyboard, preferably one without any additional functions (hot keys, macros, etc). If a basic keyboard works fine, it's most likely that it's drivers to blame. Uninstall and reinstall the basic ones on the CD it came with, if not, the latest version from msnf. web site. Saying that, it still doesn't explain how the keyboard could misbehave in linux. Have you tried this keyboard on another machine? Does it behave, or still play up? It's a very odd issue, and you could well be right, that you do need a new mobo after all's said and done. Might be worth trying a latest BIOS/chipset driver update as a last resort before ditching it, but otherwise, looks like a new motherboard is in your future! Good luck. -------------
Harm Gently Naughty 40	Posted - 2009.09.07 20:26:00 - [19] Originally by: KingsGambit That's a really bizarre problem, and in honesty, one I wouldn't have believed without seeing it for myself. If it's doing it in both Windows AND linux, there's definitely a problem. However I'm still inclined towards the fault resting with the keyboard rather than the motherboard. It's also a lot cheaper to find out whether this is the case. Before springing for a new mobo, pick up or borrow any ol', cheap n' nasty QWERTY keyboard, preferably one without any additional functions (hot keys, macros, etc). If a basic keyboard works fine, it's most likely that it's drivers to blame. Uninstall and reinstall the basic ones on the CD it came with, if not, the latest version from msnf. web site. Saying that, it still doesn't explain how the keyboard could misbehave in linux. Have you tried this keyboard on another machine? Does it behave, or still play up? It's a very odd issue, and you could well be right, that you do need a new mobo after all's said and done. Might be worth trying a latest BIOS/chipset driver update as a last resort before ditching it, but otherwise, looks like a new motherboard is in your future! Good luck. He said he already tried other keyboards in the OP. Weird problem. Let us know what the problem was when you get it sorted, will you?
annoing Amarr Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2009.09.07 21:06:00 - [20] Originally by: Blane Xero Go with gigabyte. I've never had an issue with their motherboards and have used them in numerous computer builds. Ive got a Giga now that works fine, but it was sent as a replacement under warranty for one that died a nasty death taking my gfx and ram with it. Giga admitted responsibility and offered to replace ram and gfx (bios sent too much juice to the ram and gfx apprently .. but im a noob what would I know?). As I had already sent back and recieved new ram sticks and gfx from those warranties I didnt take them up on the offer, but the mobo they sent me was much better than the one it replaced (GA-X48-DS5) Shame it cost me ú10 for them to check it out, should have been refunded I think Originally by: Zeba Its all the pron. Fappy people are happy people
Serenity Lucifari	Posted - 2009.09.08 01:18:00 - [21] Originally by: Harm Gently Originally by: KingsGambit That's a really bizarre problem, and in honesty, one I wouldn't have believed without seeing it for myself. If it's doing it in both Windows AND linux, there's definitely a problem. However I'm still inclined towards the fault resting with the keyboard rather than the motherboard. It's also a lot cheaper to find out whether this is the case. Before springing for a new mobo, pick up or borrow any ol', cheap n' nasty QWERTY keyboard, preferably one without any additional functions (hot keys, macros, etc). If a basic keyboard works fine, it's most likely that it's drivers to blame. Uninstall and reinstall the basic ones on the CD it came with, if not, the latest version from msnf. web site. Saying that, it still doesn't explain how the keyboard could misbehave in linux. Have you tried this keyboard on another machine? Does it behave, or still play up? It's a very odd issue, and you could well be right, that you do need a new mobo after all's said and done. Might be worth trying a latest BIOS/chipset driver update as a last resort before ditching it, but otherwise, looks like a new motherboard is in your future! Good luck. He said he already tried other keyboards in the OP. Weird problem. Let us know what the problem was when you get it sorted, will you? I'll def be sure to let you all know what it was as soon as its figured out. Atm its looking to be the mobo... i know its not an overheating thing as the hottest part of my board is actually the NB at 104 degree's my cpu runs on average around 99-101 with my cooling kit =) Gonna double check the ram just to be sure a module didnt fry for w/e reason... other than that im out of all other idea's... the thing that bothers me most though is its only the keyboard and occasionally the sound. It doesnt matter whats plugged where its just those 2... considering im using all my usb ports at one time or another it doesnt make sense that nothing else has issues. I even bought yet another kb today just for the ****s and giggles and that one wouldnt even light up via ps/2 though it would light and not work for the usb. anyway im about to run another mem test so i'll keep u all informed, thanks for all the replies btw.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.08 07:20:00 - [22] Originally by: Serenity Lucifari Originally by: Harm Gently Originally by: KingsGambit That's a really bizarre problem, and in honesty, one I wouldn't have believed without seeing it for myself. If it's doing it in both Windows AND linux, there's definitely a problem. However I'm still inclined towards the fault resting with the keyboard rather than the motherboard. It's also a lot cheaper to find out whether this is the case. Before springing for a new mobo, pick up or borrow any ol', cheap n' nasty QWERTY keyboard, preferably one without any additional functions (hot keys, macros, etc). If a basic keyboard works fine, it's most likely that it's drivers to blame. Uninstall and reinstall the basic ones on the CD it came with, if not, the latest version from msnf. web site. Saying that, it still doesn't explain how the keyboard could misbehave in linux. Have you tried this keyboard on another machine? Does it behave, or still play up? It's a very odd issue, and you could well be right, that you do need a new mobo after all's said and done. Might be worth trying a latest BIOS/chipset driver update as a last resort before ditching it, but otherwise, looks like a new motherboard is in your future! Good luck. He said he already tried other keyboards in the OP. Weird problem. Let us know what the problem was when you get it sorted, will you? I'll def be sure to let you all know what it was as soon as its figured out. Atm its looking to be the mobo... i know its not an overheating thing as the hottest part of my board is actually the NB at 104 degree's my cpu runs on average around 99-101 with my cooling kit =) Gonna double check the ram just to be sure a module didnt fry for w/e reason... other than that im out of all other idea's... the thing that bothers me most though is its only the keyboard and occasionally the sound. It doesnt matter whats plugged where its just those 2... considering im using all my usb ports at one time or another it doesnt make sense that nothing else has issues. I even bought yet another kb today just for the **s and giggles and that one wouldnt even light up via ps/2 though it would light and not work for the usb. anyway im about to run another mem test so i'll keep u all informed, thanks for all the replies btw. Please tell me those measurements are in Fahrenheit _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by:** CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Fina Kelitan	Posted - 2009.09.08 09:43:00 - [23] Edited by: Fina Kelitan on 08/09/2009 09:44:09 Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Serenity Lucifari i know its not an overheating thing as the hottest part of my board is actually the NB at 104 degree's my cpu runs on average around 99-101 with my cooling kit =) Please tell me those measurements are in Fahrenheit They'd be around 40¦C, which is pretty cool. 100¦C would be normal for GPUs, most have a temp cutoff of 120¦C, though more modern ones run much cooler. NB and CPU? Not so much. I have a PC whose CPUs run at 60-65¦C when idle , out of a 75¦C cutoff. With copper heat-pipe coolers. They are old Athlon MP chips though, and it took me a few years before my desktop was more powerful than it. Now it's just begging for an energy efficient replacement, but I can't bring myself to do it. - Experienced EVE player trying a new character
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.08 10:06:00 - [24] Originally by: Fina Kelitan Edited by: Fina Kelitan on 08/09/2009 09:44:09 Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Serenity Lucifari i know its not an overheating thing as the hottest part of my board is actually the NB at 104 degree's my cpu runs on average around 99-101 with my cooling kit =) Please tell me those measurements are in Fahrenheit They'd be around 40¦C, which is pretty cool. 100¦C would be normal for GPUs, most have a temp cutoff of 120¦C, though more modern ones run much cooler. NB and CPU? Not so much. I have a PC whose CPUs run at 60-65¦C when idle , out of a 75¦C cutoff. With copper heat-pipe coolers. They are old Athlon MP chips though, and it took me a few years before my desktop was more powerful than it. Now it's just begging for an energy efficient replacement, but I can't bring myself to do it. Thats why i said "Please tell me" because if those measurements are in Celsius to start with thats going to be a problem. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Taedrin Gallente The Space Bar South The Compass	Posted - 2009.09.08 13:47:00 - [25] I'm starting to wonder if the problem is that your keyboard/motherboard is sending extra random key presses. The opening of programs could be due to one of these random key presses being the "enter" key, which would open the currently selected program in Windows and many Linux distros. The random closing of applications might be caused by these random key presses being "alt+f4". Does your keyboard occasionally type random extra letters when typing in notepad?
Serenity Lucifari	Posted - 2009.09.08 19:56:00 - [26] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Fina Kelitan Edited by: Fina Kelitan on 08/09/2009 09:44:09 Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Serenity Lucifari i know its not an overheating thing as the hottest part of my board is actually the NB at 104 degree's my cpu runs on average around 99-101 with my cooling kit =) Please tell me those measurements are in Fahrenheit They'd be around 40¦C, which is pretty cool. 100¦C would be normal for GPUs, most have a temp cutoff of 120¦C, though more modern ones run much cooler. NB and CPU? Not so much. I have a PC whose CPUs run at 60-65¦C when idle , out of a 75¦C cutoff. With copper heat-pipe coolers. They are old Athlon MP chips though, and it took me a few years before my desktop was more powerful than it. Now it's just begging for an energy efficient replacement, but I can't bring myself to do it. Thats why i said "Please tell me" because if those measurements are in Celsius to start with thats going to be a problem. Shoulda mentioned that it wasnt in celsius lol. I use a custom made cooling kit i built out of a corsair nautilus 500. Pump rad and block mounting hardware from danger den and a industrial fan that runs around 1k ccm at max power, i run it significanly slower than that as its pretty loud and tbh it runs real cool as is.
Serenity Lucifari	Posted - 2009.09.08 23:20:00 - [27] Edited by: Serenity Lucifari on 08/09/2009 23:26:26 Its official, its a controller on the mobo and its out of warranty. Guess this means im going hardware shopping now i just need to put more hours in at work =P BTW if anyone wants to buy 8GB of dual channel DDR2 (4x 2GB) and a Q6600 Core 2 Quad cpu along with my custom liquid cooling kit (or any of them) let me know. My mobo warranty ran out lol the ram is almost brand new.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.08 23:30:00 - [28] The ram is tempting but i'm skint and i'll prolly be upgrading to DDR3 soon Good luck hardware shoppin _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2009.09.08 23:51:00 - [29] Who is it that has the Step Up program? www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.quafeultra.com ò Buy a GTC
Serenity Lucifari	Posted - 2009.09.09 00:30:00 - [30] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Who is it that has the Step Up program? EVGA and thats only for some of their gfx cards. @ Blane: Dont blame ya m8 with ddr3 comming down in price its starting to be a decent investment. I'm just trying to hurry up and get the cash needed to buy some new hardware before thats discontinued to lol... the less im stuck buying the better and the evga 790 is the last board to my knowlege that supports my cpu if i dont sell it.

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