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Posted - 2009.09.10 12:02:00 -
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EVE Online Apocrypha 1.5.1 deployment is now live and Tranquility is open for business. Please use this thread to list any playability issues that you experience on Tranquility. The Developers will be monitoring this thread to check for any reported issues and we will provide updates when possible.
Please be sure to note which client you are using (Windows or Mac) if you believe the issue is client-specific.
Navigator
Senior Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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zombiedeadhead
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.09.10 12:48:00 -
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Edited by: zombiedeadhead on 10/09/2009 12:51:58
Easily first, and with a bug also  . Sittng in station, click leave ship, and nothing. Still my ship graphic there, checked in ships tab, and it showed my pod there, with empty ship, but the Graphic still showed me in a ship. When I double-clicked the ship, message of 'Your pod has no cargohold, do you wish to equip a ship'.
When I undocked, the correct graphic of my pod showed.
windows client. (Had two clients running, the issue was on other client)
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Rosa Rosette
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Posted - 2009.09.10 12:51:00 -
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pathcer claims corrupt install and advises reinstallation of the full client.
game start nevertheless
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CosmicSpork
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Posted - 2009.09.10 13:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Rosa Rosette
pathcer claims corrupt install and advises reinstallation of the full client.
game start nevertheless
I confirm this. I am using the Steam version if that makes any difference.
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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2009.09.10 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: CosmicSpork
Originally by: Rosa Rosette
pathcer claims corrupt install and advises reinstallation of the full client.
game start nevertheless
I confirm this. I am using the Steam version if that makes any difference.
Thanks for the report. We're looking into the Steam client issue.
Fallout
Associate Community Manager
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Saarikko Stone
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Posted - 2009.09.10 13:35:00 -
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I'm experiencing some problems here.
I have 2 machines, one running Vista and one running XP. The Vista machine is working fine.
On the XP machine:
Inventory windows have 0 items (items & ships)
Corp hangar has 0 items
Science & Industry screen returns nothing on any page
Market window says "fetching orders" indefinitely
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.09.10 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Rosa Rosette
Edited by: Rosa Rosette on 10/09/2009 13:16:29
pathcer claims corrupt install and advises reinstallation of the full client.
game start nevertheless
EDIT: steam version as well here
I have the sam issue like forever now. I dont bother with it sice it all work properly after patching.
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pompeius
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Posted - 2009.09.10 13:41:00 -
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look i didn't see where i can put this but i got a meager problem i got the new windows 7 and as i installed it i cannot enter eve any more can you tell me what do i need to do ?
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.09.10 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 10/09/2009 13:51:31
Originally by: pompeius
look i didn't see where i can put this but i got a meager problem i got the new windows 7 and as i installed it i cannot enter eve any more can you tell me what do i need to do ?
That's pretty vague don't you think. Try to go into as much detail as you can and explain exactly what is happening and what you see. That way people might take a guess at what is happening. Also a bug report might be in order.
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pompeius
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Posted - 2009.09.10 13:54:00 -
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well i get the first screen before the log in screen and then nothing like it wont get in to the login screen
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Ariane VoxDei
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Posted - 2009.09.10 13:57:00 -
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long post warning, regarding filtering.
tl;dr: averages are now consistent, but not calculating/providing the average you want/expect to base your deviation filters on. In short they are the average of the orders that are up, not the traded average.
---- Joe podpilot need not read beyond this line. ----
Something is up with the way price averages are calculated for the filters.
While they now appear to consistently get the same result (inconsistency was the previous problem), I do not find the results to be in line with the averages I would expect, namely something close to the daily or 5-day average.
I am getting strange results for some items (others *appear* to be ok), when deviation filters are on.
What really raised my suspicion was that all the megacyte buy orders in Kador were filtered out.
Since the deviation setting was very wide and the average of megacyte is easily in the 4-5k range (4.5k-5k in kador), then orders down to about 2k/unit should still have shown.
However, every order (and the highest is 4.8k/unit) from 0.50/unit and up was being filtered out.
Market history data for the last month clearly shows that all daily median in megacyte falls within 4k to 5k isk per unit, so the average can impossibly be outside that range.
The deviations are supposed to be in percentage, not absolutes, and you can not type in the % char in the field, so we have to assume that part is working as intended.
Trying various filter values concur that they are applied as percentages as intended (not as absolute numbers).
Testing with unusually narrow settings:
[-1 ; 1] in the filter gives some unexpected results. Try it and you will see.
From trying to explore the markets with that setting, it looks like the filters operate with 2 independent averages.
Case example:
Tritanium in Kador, using a [-1;1] filter on buy and sell it shows the following ranges :
sell @ 3.69-3.74isk
buy @ 2.27isk
Now if the filter is correct, those numbers are within 1% of the average.
As any trader can tell you, those numbers are laughably wrong or perhaps just naive.
Contrast the above numbers to this:
5-day average hovering about 2.75isk +/- 0.02isk.
Donchian channel the past 10 days: 2.6-2.95isk
Daily median the past month: about 2.74-2.92isk.
That shows that the average used in sell order filtering is about 1 isk too high (~35-40% too high) and it puts the average used in buy orders about 0.5isk too low.
So the conclusion seems to be that the averages that are fed to the filters are:
the weighted average of the sell orders and the weighted average of the buy orders. And those are very likely being calculated correctly.
The problem arises from the fact that I/we expect the traded average, which is usually close the the 5day average on the price history graph.
When we set filters, we want the deviations relative to the average traded price, if we can not access more accurate numbers such as average sell and average buy.
What the averages of the orders are is irrelevant, what matters is the average of what moves.
We very clearly do not want to have it jacked up/down by superexpensive sellorder or ultralow regional buyorders that never move any units - but that is what it very much looks like we are getting.
Please change this asap. The current averages are not useful, since to compensate for them the filters have to be so lax as to become useless.
Pre 1.5.0 it worked.
In 1.5.0, sometimes it was borked - someone cutting too many corners to optimize a need for speed effort I suppose.
1.5.1: consistent, but undesirable deviation filtering due to choice of averages.
Please drop me a email/game-mail if you want this submitted as a new bugreport, as the issue is different from the previous inconsistency one.
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Rogue1004
Caldari
Black Knight Buccaneers
Strength in Numbers.
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Posted - 2009.09.10 13:59:00 -
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also getting a verification failure asking to re-install the eve client
"D:\CCP\EVE\script\complied. code" seems to be corrupt
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PJRiddick
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Posted - 2009.09.10 14:33:00 -
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For those of you not being able to enter the game and you are able to get to the chariter select screen,....ive done this trick.
hit your excape and back your graphisc down ie 1024x768 shold do it,...and turn off all the extras too. I had a machine do that to me the other day that i was loading EVE onto and it barfed on me big time. This is what i did just ot get into the game and from there i brought the graphics back up to a good level.
Not sure what the deal was but its working now. I use that system for my mining alt. not a realy high frame rate but it workss for mining.
Just wanted to throw that out there. Hope it helps
-=+>xXx<+=-
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borgqueenx
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Posted - 2009.09.10 15:39:00 -
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i have a problem, look here: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1176498
the patch wont install.
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ReconByFire
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Posted - 2009.09.10 17:15:00 -
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Pre patch everthing worked fine but after I installed the patch it doesnt work right on Vista but works right on XP. On my computer with Vista it opens the opening screen before the login screen then comes up with a CCP error somethin thing that closes down the game. So I took the game off my computer and reinstalled the whole thing again but the same thing happend. Anyone know whats up with that?
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Twiagon
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Posted - 2009.09.10 17:19:00 -
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Unable to download patch either automatically:
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There was an unexpected error while retrieving update status:
Unable to download file o2/evepremiumpatch99186-101786.exe from the server.
Error: ('http protocol error', 0, 'got a bad status line', None)
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or from the Patches section of the Forum.
Anything I can do at my end to correct this?
TIA
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Shiba Miki
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Posted - 2009.09.10 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Twiagon
Unable to download patch either automatically:
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There was an unexpected error while retrieving update status:
Unable to download file o2/evepremiumpatch99186-101786.exe from the server.
Error: ('http protocol error', 0, 'got a bad status line', None)
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or from the Patches section of the Forum.
Anything I can do at my end to correct this?
TIA
Same here, have the patches been taken down?
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Brycesv1
Caldari
Subspace Freelancers
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Posted - 2009.09.10 17:37:00 -
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ok now that we have another patch number maybe the forces that be will FINALLY start to work on fixing the sound issues? or maybe we could get a dev to at least acknoledge that there is a problem... or maybe give us an explanation as to why we cant hear anything unless were staring up the exhaust tubes of our ship...
then again i AM talking about CCP......
/me throws hope back under the bed
There once was a man from Nantucket. Who tried to build a good ship but said "**** it". He grabbed his glue and his duct tape too. And thats why the Minmatar all suck it. |
Dynamix Boon
Gallente
Ealurian Wolves
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2009.09.10 17:52:00 -
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I'm having problems downloading the patch. I tried through the client and the website. 
The client reports:-
There was an unexpected error while retrieving update status:
Unable to download file o2/evepremiumpatch99186-101786.exe from the server.
Error: [Errno socket error] (10060, 'Operation timed out', 'thread::connect failed with error 10060: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond.\r\n')
Is there an alternate site to download the patch?
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Ayre Rowan
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:01:00 -
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I'm getting similar problems, for both the patch and client download. I'm using Google Chrome so get as far as the address for the item e.g. http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/EVE_Premium_Setup_101786_m.exe. My error message is:
Quote:
This web page is not available.
The web page at null might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
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Ehranavaar
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:35:00 -
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is it just me or when they say they fixed some exploits does not your ears perk up and you wonder what the scoundrels had been getting away with this time.
please ccp instead of just saying you've fixed exploits can you not drop a few general words in about what the exploits were? nosey people want to know 
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Hamee Thorn
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Hamee Thorn on 10/09/2009 18:40:17
Started game as normal via Steam
Requested patch. Eve shutdown and patch was installed (Windows Vista 32)
Now when I try to run eve I get this
"Your EVE client installation may have modified, damaged or corrupt files. Please re-install the game client
Bad manifest signature, timestamp "2009.09.03 11:22:45", expected "2009.08.14 13:59:00"
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Kralizek Kharr
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:05:00 -
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Hello...
same problem here when try to auto patch after 20 secs I got message
There was an unexpected error while retrieving update status:
Unable to download file o2/evepremiumpatch99186-101786.exe from the server.
Error: [Errno socket error] (10054, 'Connection reset by peer', 'IOCompletionWsaGetOverlappedResult failed with error 10054: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.\r\n')
Do you want to go to support page?
then tried to manually download ANYTHING from your website... patch, full build and I can't due to time out etc. tried even download some video trailers can't either...but my internet works fine.. can access other websites and download from them stuff... so please help .
Any ideas what may causing this?
P.S. Using windows XP
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Lukas Rox
Monastery of Eternal Life
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:17:00 -
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Heavy drones cannot hit large objects. Looks like changing the gunnery mechanics changes a lot when the object you shoot at is very big. For example in mission "The Infested Ruins" when you order Ogre IIs to shoot the structure, they are too far to actually hit it. Had to use sentries. And I'm positive, that this did not happen pre patch.
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Visit in game for nice items links http://eve.interkam.pl/eveships
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Al'Ter Ego
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:25:00 -
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Patch downloader stalls, not fetching the RTP package.
Got evepremiumpatch99186-101786_m.exe from the "EVE Patches" - page: No problems with that.
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Tranz molar
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:52:00 -
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Unable to patch, neither the auto patcher runs
"Unable to download file o2/evepremiumpatch99186-101786.exe from the server.
Error: [Errno socket error] (11001, 'getaddrinfo failed', 'thread::getaddrinfo failed with error 11001: No such host is known.\r\n')"
Tried manual download of patch but just getting connection error and same with trying to download the full client for windows.
The old client starts up ok and connects just the patch server seems to be the problem rather than the patch itself |
Tranz molar
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Posted - 2009.09.10 20:09:00 -
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nm didnt do enough forum hunting.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1176563&page=1#6
Time to kill the isp provider |
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CCP Atlas
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Posted - 2009.09.10 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ariane VoxDei
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So the conclusion seems to be that the averages that are fed to the filters are:
the weighted average of the sell orders and the weighted average of the buy orders. And those are very likely being calculated correctly.
The problem arises from the fact that I/we expect the traded average, which is usually close the the 5day average on the price history graph.
When we set filters, we want the deviations relative to the average traded price, if we can not access more accurate numbers such as average sell and average buy.
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Pre 1.5.0 it worked.
In 1.5.0, sometimes it was borked - someone cutting too many corners to optimize a need for speed effort I suppose.
1.5.1: consistent, but undesirable deviation filtering due to choice of averages.
You are indeed correct. In Apocrypha 1.5 we changed this to use the average price of the outstanding orders rather than the regional average of sold units. This was done for performance reasons. It was hugely expensive for the server to calculate this information for people with this filter set. Basically this was done as an emergency need-for-speed change.
The tooltip for the filter does tell you how the deviation is calculated but I agree that it's not as useful as the old system. For the long term we might revisit this and find a smarter way to report the same information but I'm afraid this is all we have for now.
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shukran fahid
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Posted - 2009.09.10 21:04:00 -
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i havent been able to download the patch all day. i tried to DL the entire client as well with no success. anyone else having timeout problems on DL???
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Piker Sareth
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Posted - 2009.09.10 21:25:00 -
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I have the steam client and also have what appear to be cosmetic issues.
After installing the patch I'm told my install is corrupt and needs to be reinstalled... but the game will start just fine.
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Empathic Psychopath
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Posted - 2009.09.10 21:36:00 -
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Well, can't say I'm too impressed with this patch. Did anyone at CCP actually test this on a wide range of system types? WinXP? Win Vista? 32 AND 64 bit versions?
First off, I install the patch, "8.9 mbytes? cool...won't take long" I think...sure...15 minutes later nothing is happening. DXSETUP.EXE is still running and my system has pretty much frozen. Imagine my surprise when the system just reboots and the POST runs...no shutdown, just a restart. This appears to be a bad omen...
....and 30 minutes later I decide the black screen after the reboot isn't going to get better. So, cold boot the system again and I have do boot from last known good config to get the system running again.
Lets try it again. Start the patch process and yup, been waiting just on 10 minutes now while DXSETUP.EXE does what ever it is trying to do and...my....system...is...lagging...like...jita...used...to.....arrrrgghhhhhh!!!
I have several install directories (one per account) and at this rate it will another 3 days to update all of them.
FYI, I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate x64. Prior to this patch I've never had ANY problems with this system (been running the current install for over 12 months now).
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Mr Xanatos
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:19:00 -
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LMAO, permanent fix to deysnc, eh... NO
Just patched, logged in and desynced 15 mins into a lvl 4. Not a very nice feeling when your shield looks healthy on your Golem but it's telling you a big lie and then you cant warp, your only option is to log and hope she's still alive when you get back. All I seem to do is play Eve but watch the log server for everything to turn yellow/red to know that I'm in trouble.
File a bug report, yes I will with the log servers attached, not that it will do much good (speaking from experience) |
Mr Xanatos
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Xanatos
LMAO, permanent fix to deysnc, eh... NO
Just patched, logged in and desynced 15 mins into a lvl 4. Not a very nice feeling when your shield looks healthy on your Golem but it's telling you a big lie and then you cant warp, your only option is to log and hope she's still alive when you get back. All I seem to do is play Eve but watch the log server for everything to turn yellow/red to know that I'm in trouble.
File a bug report, yes I will with the log servers attached, not that it will do much good (speaking from experience)
Wohooo \0/ desync number 2, only 13 minutes after the first one. |
Mr Xanatos
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Xanatos
Originally by: Mr Xanatos
LMAO, permanent fix to deysnc, eh... NO
Just patched, logged in and desynced 15 mins into a lvl 4. Not a very nice feeling when your shield looks healthy on your Golem but it's telling you a big lie and then you cant warp, your only option is to log and hope she's still alive when you get back. All I seem to do is play Eve but watch the log server for everything to turn yellow/red to know that I'm in trouble.
File a bug report, yes I will with the log servers attached, not that it will do much good (speaking from experience)
Wohooo \0/ desync number 2, only 13 minutes after the first one.
Number 3 only 6 minutes after second one lol |
ReconByFire
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: ReconByFire
Pre patch everthing worked fine but after I installed the patch it doesnt work right on Vista but works right on XP. On my computer with Vista it opens the opening screen before the login screen then comes up with a CCP error somethin thing that closes down the game. So I took the game off my computer and reinstalled the whole thing again but the same thing happend. Anyone know whats up with that?
Just wanted to be more specific since I wasnt earlier. The screen that has the Apocrypha thing on it with all the fancy colors and stuff pops up then a mocrosoft windows ting pops up tellin me CCP ExeFile has stopped working. Ive removed the game completey and reinstalled it 3 times now restarting the computer each time. Would be greatly appreciated if I could get some help with this.
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Dhu Kar
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:09:00 -
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Well I tried... and once again I have a corrupt client.
WTF is going on with this.
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Mr Xanatos
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Xanatos
Originally by: Mr Xanatos
Originally by: Mr Xanatos
LMAO, permanent fix to deysnc, eh... NO
Just patched, logged in and desynced 15 mins into a lvl 4. Not a very nice feeling when your shield looks healthy on your Golem but it's telling you a big lie and then you cant warp, your only option is to log and hope she's still alive when you get back. All I seem to do is play Eve but watch the log server for everything to turn yellow/red to know that I'm in trouble.
File a bug report, yes I will with the log servers attached, not that it will do much good (speaking from experience)
Wohooo \0/ desync number 2, only 13 minutes after the first one.
Number 3 only 6 minutes after second one lol
You know, I'm getting really fed up with this. When I petition you respond by saying you cant repeat or that the description is not enough " please add more detail in your description "
Now I'm being told that my description is to long in text and cant be processed. Make up your bloody minds.
Send me a link where I can actually file a bug report that allows me to write the needed text and attach the relevant files.
Thank you for your bug report. Your report ID is 84033 |
Dhu Kar
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Dhu Kar on 10/09/2009 23:41:41
OK something very screwy is going on - does anyone have any idea why the patch keeps throwing up an incompatible version (patch files do not match the files in the client) error message?
I've triple checked that I'm downloading the correct patch for my client version - yet it continues to do this.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mr Xanatos
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:57:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Xanatos on 11/09/2009 00:05:23
Originally by: Dhu Kar
Edited by: Dhu Kar on 10/09/2009 23:41:41
OK something very screwy is going on - does anyone have any idea why the patch keeps throwing up an incompatible version (patch files do not match the files in the client) error message?
I've triple checked that I'm downloading the correct patch for my client version - yet it continues to do this.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have a fresh client lying around?. Try install that one and then let it auto patch to it |
Vechtor
Gallente
Federation Mineral Reserves
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Posted - 2009.09.11 01:57:00 -
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I had a sell order placed yesterday for the duration of 24 hours, for 50 million Tritanium units and there is no trace of what happened after the patch. No transactions log. No Tritanium on the Deliveries tab on Corp Assets window, no money on any wallet resulting from the sell order being executed...
Already petitioned.
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Root Canal
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Posted - 2009.09.11 02:48:00 -
[41]
Good stuff. Now how about fixing the Windows client crash and dump that occurs randomly on closing the client? This locks up my PC for 30-60 seconds and the last time it happened it caused a graphic driver to get hosed, which in turn changed a bunch of window positions and settings as it reverted to some kind of default VGA or something to give me a chance to save and close things. Usually this problem just locks me up while it makes the dump, then pops up the Microsoft reporting option window. CCP must have received many thousands of those reports from Microsoft with crash info surely sufficient for them to identify and fix the problem.
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MeigsYan
Caldari
Black Out Horizons
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Posted - 2009.09.11 03:02:00 -
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I've always had a pretty stable client, in fact I usually run two windowed clients on the same box, one for each alt. Tonight after the 1.5.1 patch I have experienced more than half a dozen crashes to the desktop. In each case the crash is generating a "socket closed" message.
- Vista 32bit, fully updated
- 2 GB RAM
- High-end everything
- 24" 1920x1280 monitor
Master of the (Orca Class) Deep Space Exploration And Mining Vessel "Long Shot" |
Giselay
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Posted - 2009.09.11 07:19:00 -
[43]
Macbook Air, Snow Leopard, patch wenn well without problems.
Everything works, flying, jumping, chat etc.
However:
Market Data can't be read with right click after the 1st time
My assets show 0 items in containers
I can't fit items to ships.
Relog, restart etc, doesn't help. I will try on my windows machine
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Callisto Ares
Companion Cube Industries
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Posted - 2009.09.11 08:11:00 -
[44]
I rarely if ever had de-sync's before unless in massive FW fights since the last small fix went in.
Since updating the latest "FIX" I've lost connection on both accounts to the server with de-syncs about 10 times this night. Had to just quit for the night and log it was getting so bad, even eve-voice was screwed up.
Vista 64bit
Had already applied the de-sync 'fix' line over a month ago to my eve config file. |
Bel Arvandan
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Posted - 2009.09.11 08:30:00 -
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hi, I installed the patch last night and ran the client for a couple of hours and all seemed well. I then logged out and shut down my computer. When starting it up today I have been getting error messages like;
Generic Host Process for Win32 services has encountered a problem and needs to close.
Error Signiture:
szAppName : svchost.exe szAppVer : 5.1.2600.5512
szModName : wiaservc.dll szModVer : 5.1.2600.5512 offset : 0002fc66
The system seems to lag when opening My Computer and when I try to open the EVE client I get this message and the client crashes/closes;
Verification Failure
Your EVE client intallation may have modified, damaged or corrupt files, Please reinstall the game client. Verification failed:"C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\bin\DirectX\dsetup32.dll", crc:a46ac406, expected: 9646c4ed. Verification failed: "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\res\splash.bmp", crc:9e08e1da, expected:28e01781
I'm not really that IT savvy but my system was running perfectly until today and the only change has been the patch update. Any help would be appreciated even if it's to tell me that the problems aren't caused by the patch, thx.
Win XP (fully updated)
2GB RAM
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ISHKUR MASTER
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.11 11:24:00 -
[46]
desyncs a couple of times today - client crash on exit warps
Also - bug reported - this account
Corp members going red to each other when test pvping, both getting outlaw status and countdown timers, never happened before patch.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.09.11 11:59:00 -
[47]
I still can look into the ship model when undocking or jumping through a gate and need to zoom out.
Is this never going to get fixed?
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Mr Xanatos
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Posted - 2009.09.11 12:09:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Mr Xanatos on 11/09/2009 12:09:30
Originally by: Callisto Ares
I rarely if ever had de-sync's before unless in massive FW fights since the last small fix went in.
Since updating the latest "FIX" I've lost connection on both accounts to the server with de-syncs about 10 times this night. Had to just quit for the night and log it was getting so bad, even eve-voice was screwed up.
Vista 64bit
Had already applied the de-sync 'fix' line over a month ago to my eve config file.
Was starting to think I was alone. I've had this for over 2 months but get it even when running missions so my income is gone out the window. Took me 3 hours to run a 45 min mission last night then I just logged, couldn't be bothered with Eve.
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Mr Xanatos
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Posted - 2009.09.11 12:18:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Mr Xanatos on 11/09/2009 12:22:58
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PJRiddick
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Posted - 2009.09.11 12:27:00 -
[50]
May i interject something here. CCP,..the question comes to mind as to the condition of the OS that is being used at the time of install. maybe im not discribing or explaning well but ill give it a shot.
If you got a lot of stuff running on your system, or if you use that machine for surfing and if you do then the chances are very good that there are bugs on it ie spyware and the like, Just how much would that effect EVE from running.
I am under the assumption that a buggy system would "LAG", vs a clean system.
And there is the issue of OS system updates ie are you running the latest system updates and patches from Microslop,...>OOPS sorry about that Mr Bill<
I myself dont have any problems with the updates or patches because i dont use my game machines >X2< for anything else other than EVE,...Dedicated machines.
And i do keep both of them patched from Mr Bills house of OS software ie microslop.
>Im an old AMIGA user from way back<
But the question still remains would these factors contrubute to the problems that we see here in the usage and install of EVE?
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ReconByFire
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Posted - 2009.09.11 12:31:00 -
[51]
Originally by: PJRid****
May i interject something here. CCP,..the question comes to mind as to the condition of the OS that is being used at the time of install. maybe im not discribing or explaning well but ill give it a shot.
If you got a lot of stuff running on your system, or if you use that machine for surfing and if you do then the chances are very good that there are bugs on it ie spyware and the like, Just how much would that effect EVE from running.
I am under the assumption that a buggy system would "LAG", vs a clean system.
And there is the issue of OS system updates ie are you running the latest system updates and patches from Microslop,...>OOPS sorry about that Mr Bill<
I myself dont have any problems with the updates or patches because i dont use my game machines >X2< for anything else other than EVE,...Dedicated machines.
And i do keep both of them patched from Mr Bills house of OS software ie microslop.
>Im an old AMIGA user from way back<
But the question still remains would these factors contrubute to the problems that we see here in the usage and install of EVE?
i doubt it since the computer i use for nothin but games is the one havin the trouble while the one i use for web surfin and stuff is doin fine.
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ReconByFire
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Posted - 2009.09.11 13:53:00 -
[52]
Alright so I thought this was weird. Ive been havin trouble gettin this thing to work on Vista so I decided let me try to download the test server and at least try to play around on there. Get that downloaded start it up and bam it works as the Tranquility server. But when I try to open the other one up it doesnt work, I still get the same message. Hmmmm wtf. I dont get it but whatever. Just to make sure though when youre loggin in the test server it says Singularity on the login page under server correct? And also, Im sure we all apreciate CCP answerin that one persons question about the market but could yall at least give us a post that says youre workin on the rest of our problems. Im sure Im not the only one gettin ****ed off thinkin that yall are blowin us off.
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Kenpachi Viktor
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.09.11 15:17:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Kenpachi Viktor on 11/09/2009 15:22:33
Originally by: Dhu Kar
Edited by: Dhu Kar on 10/09/2009 23:41:41
OK something very screwy is going on - does anyone have any idea why the patch keeps throwing up an incompatible version (patch files do not match the files in the client) error message?
I've triple checked that I'm downloading the correct patch for my client version - yet it continues to do this.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had this issue this patch, I have had this issue on other patches, but it lies.
My client has worked most of those times, with out re-downloading the full client.
Edit: For the record, it worked this time.
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PJRiddick
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Posted - 2009.09.11 16:14:00 -
[54]
Well as i stated before however, I have had little to no problem with updates up to this point. I believe there was one time that i did have an issue with a patch once a long time ago, i had to download the install from the site and nuke the EVE folder completely, ran a regester cleaner and then reinstalled, it worked great rom that point. But as far as patches from that point, ive always kept that system up to date and spyware free,...it dosent see the net otherwise,..and EVE has been stable scence.
BTW i dont run an active virus protection like norton or C.A. but i do keep MALWAREBYTES on the system, that and a couple other goodies.
Runs good so far,...60 to 70 FPS.
I havent had the opertunity to try out the BANK-BANG ZERO point yet though. that should be interesting.
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Mr Hellcat
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Posted - 2009.09.11 16:38:00 -
[55]
Ok, first day, first client in is not sync'ed with server. Asteroid is 11 Km away, strip miner will not activate because it tells me I am not within 15 Km. I kill client and restart, all seems fine.
Today I have two clients running, mining with my Orca and Alt and a friend. For some reason the Orca is 22 KM away and I am able to put stuff in the corp hangers from my alt. Friend is able to do the same even though he shows Orca is 22 Km. No reason why something happened and Orca is out of range of other two ships, but they act if it is right next to them. Thought maybe server sync issues, but all clients show the orca 22 Km away.
Anyway, go drop load of ore, come back next to both ships and continue mining. Three rats appear in gravimetric site I am mining. The Orca acts like it was bumped and speeds away at over 1,000 m/s! As I am flying away I get about 39 Km away from hulk (friend) and retriever (my alt). Retriever's drones make short work of the rats. Both hulk and retriever had corp hanger open. Able to put ore into corp hanger, even though all clients show Orca 39 KM away. Three rats left wrecks 37 Km, 38 KM, and 41KM away. Have salvager on Orca, first two I can salvage like they are within 5KM, third one at 41KM complains I need to be within 5KM, tractor it 2 KM closer and able to salvage it from 39 Km away. Can gets dropped from one wreck, can't open it until it is showing as 2500 meters away.
Both My alt and friend close corp hanger, open corp hanger while Orca is 39KM away. Both able to place ore in corp hanger.
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Megan Ryder
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.09.11 18:24:00 -
[56]
Has anyone else had the jitters since the patch?
Inside stations, and outside in space, when you spin the camera or goto warp there's a constant stutter in the motion.
Infact, if I open the framerate monitor (ctrl+f), I can clearly see the stutter in the graph scrolling. The graph itself have a distinct saw-tooth shape, but then I remember it being similar to that before, the noticeable thing is the sideways scrolling of the graph.
I also notice that in station, the big Caldari one with the 'wingy bits' [Station (Caldari 1)], there are three black rectangles on the interior wall which I've never noticed before. They look more like missing textures than than something deliberate. Not sure if that is related to the stutter.
This is happening on 3 separate eve installs, guess its time to fire up the logging thingy, see if that's moaning..
Megan
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Kaelisra enamal
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Posted - 2009.09.11 20:09:00 -
[57]
desync issues FROM this patch. none before
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Olimax
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.09.12 04:07:00 -
[58]
 my best Wingman CAN'T LOG ON because he has windows vista ! the latest patch seems to not be working very well... does SOMEONE have a SOLUTION for me mate ? come on folks! don't leave us hangin ! 
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ReconByFire
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Posted - 2009.09.12 04:13:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Olimax
my best Wingman CAN'T LOG ON because he has windows vista ! the latest patch seems to not be working very well... does SOMEONE have a SOLUTION for me mate ? come on folks! don't leave us hangin !
have him try to download the test server off of the eve downloads tab on this site. that made it work for me. not sure why but it did. even after that though i tried to switch all those files to the default folder and it wouldnt open from that folder. i had to keep it in my custom folder for it to work. just dont have him download the conversion patches and all that. for me it popped up and said i had to download that version manually then it worked. we might could know why if CCP would ever say somethin but as of yet all theyve said is one thing about some market crap. oh well.
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Olimax
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.09.12 04:21:00 -
[60]
any chance you could respond even more clearly? he's downloading the Singularity (Test) now . .. .
thanks!
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Aloe Cloveris
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.12 07:37:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Aloe Cloveris on 12/09/2009 07:42:09
Originally by: ReconByFire
Originally by: ReconByFire
Pre patch everthing worked fine but after I installed the patch it doesnt work right on Vista but works right on XP. On my computer with Vista it opens the opening screen before the login screen then comes up with a CCP error somethin thing that closes down the game. So I took the game off my computer and reinstalled the whole thing again but the same thing happend. Anyone know whats up with that?
Just wanted to be more specific since I wasnt earlier. The screen that has the Apocrypha thing on it with all the fancy colors and stuff pops up then a mocrosoft windows ting pops up tellin me CCP ExeFile has stopped working. Ive removed the game completey and reinstalled it 3 times now restarting the computer each time. Would be greatly appreciated if I could get some help with this.
I'm in the same boat as Recon - I momentarily get the splash page before I get a crash message. Both Windows (Vista 32) and CCP Log Server say it's exefile.exe. It worked like a charm last night, but I tried logging in 10 minutes after I'd initially logged out (and repeatedly since) and I've gotten nothing but the crash message each and every time.
I guess I'll try the Sisi workaround after I go kick something. Kick something really, really hard.
PS I can get to the login screen when I use the safemoded eve.exe
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Oh god how did this get here I am not good with computer |
PJRiddick
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Posted - 2009.09.12 11:24:00 -
[62]
Ya know im just wondering if this is a hardware problem and not a software issue. IM not going to try to do CCPs job here and try to diagnose all these problems but more and more that i here the issues, some of these issues could be hardware related, GPU bandwidth related or GPU "FUNK" and another firend of mine in the business calls it.
Remember that EVE hits the GPU kind of hard and it has to be fast to survive regardless.
Ive got a system at work that has a invidia 5300 in it. the proc is not the problem with this one either but i got to back the video all the way down jsut to log in and stay logged in otherwise it bails out back to windows.
Now with my system i have now problems at all. All the problems that you all discribe, i dont have at all. Thisis why im suggesting that the problem might be hardware or could be hardware atributed.
My system is:
ASUS A8V Deluxe
AMD 3400 X64
VisionTec Radeon HD 3850 AGP
4 gigs of ram
XPeeee, latest service pac and all the system updates
I myself get between 55 and 75 frames and nto glitchie at all
Throw your systemout there and lets compare a bit |
Jitalein
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Posted - 2009.09.12 12:31:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Jitalein on 12/09/2009 12:31:36
Ok, I verified the problem: I reinstaled Eve, eve using a different internet provider for testing puposes.
I stay in jita and look at market details. After about 3-4 minutes the market stops responding but the chat still works. The game doesn't disconnect me, it stays like this, unfunctional, even for 60 minutes (I tried).
In other words: I can't play Eve anymore since patch and I am hesitating playing missions due to this as even fitting ships is ok for a couple of minutes but stops responding after a while.
Gisele, Macbook Air, Snow Leopard
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KtoJest
Minmatar
Silkroad Partners
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Posted - 2009.09.12 15:44:00 -
[64]
response times extremely slow.
market orders take 2-3 minutes to register.
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Dekidasu
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Posted - 2009.09.12 16:06:00 -
[65]
It seems very apparent that the server has magnificently crashed! It began with market issues, followed by everything else's steady decline of functionallity. Any news would be very much apreciated. Thankyou.
I am running windows XP 32-bit service pack 3. I am however pretty certain that this is not related. |
Stoner Stronginthearm
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Posted - 2009.09.12 17:43:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Mr Xanatos
LMAO, permanent fix to deysnc, eh... NO
Just patched, logged in and desynced 15 mins into a lvl 4. Not a very nice feeling when your shield looks healthy on your Golem but it's telling you a big lie and then you cant warp, your only option is to log and hope she's still alive when you get back. All I seem to do is play Eve but watch the log server for everything to turn yellow/red to know that I'm in trouble.
File a bug report, yes I will with the log servers attached, not that it will do much good (speaking from experience)
From the devblog
Quote:
Clock skew is not desync
When your shield and cap show wrong values, e.g. you start taking armor damage while still showing healthy shield status or the inverse when you don't take armor damage when you think your shield is gone, you're experiencing clock skew. Same applies for analogous cap issues. This is a simple artifact of PC clocks which all run at slightly different speeds. Your client will re-sync its internal clock when you log in, undock and jump but if you stay in the same space long enough, chances are you'll get slightly skewed. Usually not enough to notice, but it happens. On a couple of occasions in the past a server or proxy clock on TQ has gone out of sync, resulting in the same symptoms, but we've fixed our servers so they should never do that again.
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Jacques duWhee
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Posted - 2009.09.12 22:05:00 -
[67]
Desync before the patch = Less than 1 per day with 3 clients running on 1 machine.
Desync after the patch = Greater than 1 per hour with 1 client = Greater than 1 per 15 minutes with 2 clients = Greather than 1 per 5 minutes with 3 clients.
Vista 64-bit Service pack 2
4 GB ram
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT w/ 512mb
2 22" Monitors
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Mr Xanatos
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Posted - 2009.09.12 22:18:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Stoner Stronginthearm
Originally by: Mr Xanatos
LMAO, permanent fix to deysnc, eh... NO
Just patched, logged in and desynced 15 mins into a lvl 4. Not a very nice feeling when your shield looks healthy on your Golem but it's telling you a big lie and then you cant warp, your only option is to log and hope she's still alive when you get back. All I seem to do is play Eve but watch the log server for everything to turn yellow/red to know that I'm in trouble.
File a bug report, yes I will with the log servers attached, not that it will do much good (speaking from experience)
From the devblog
Quote:
Clock skew is not desync
When your shield and cap show wrong values, e.g. you start taking armor damage while still showing healthy shield status or the inverse when you don't take armor damage when you think your shield is gone, you're experiencing clock skew. Same applies for analogous cap issues. This is a simple artifact of PC clocks which all run at slightly different speeds. Your client will re-sync its internal clock when you log in, undock and jump but if you stay in the same space long enough, chances are you'll get slightly skewed. Usually not enough to notice, but it happens. On a couple of occasions in the past a server or proxy clock on TQ has gone out of sync, resulting in the same symptoms, but we've fixed our servers so they should never do that again.
What I described is only the tip of the iceberg. My bug report is so big text wise that it wont even post in the forums there are so many things that go wrong in the list :) |
kwix
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.09.12 23:43:00 -
[69]
Since the patch has come out it seems that the GPU and/or CPU load has increased significantly. My system running substantially hotter to the point where dual accounting, which I have run on this system with no problems for 2 years, is really really struggling and my GPU and CPU are reporting higher temps than before the patch.
I'm hearing other people are having this issue as well.
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Anosh
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Posted - 2009.09.13 11:17:00 -
[70]
"stutter" or pulsing of frame-rate, noticeable when you spin the camera - Yep
Poorer performance running multiple accounts - Yep
Getting randomly disconnected - Yep
Just like to add that scanning rigs seem to randomly not be getting applied - forcing a ship change. Could it be in some way because these are large rigs fitted inside a frigate sized ship somehow ? Either that or there's some changes to the scannability of all site types in high level WHs (more difficult and variable) that didn't make the patch notes.
Anyone else seen this last one ?
Otherwise, ok so far. But then if the desynch isnt fixed (as some have suggested) what again was the point of this patch ? Ho hum.
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Mr Xanatos
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Posted - 2009.09.13 14:29:00 -
[71]
Well, I sent in 6 bug reports yesterday due to the desync problem and an EWAR bonus problem.
Got a reply saying that they have fixed the desync issue on one of their test servers but that a hotfix will need to be pushed out to us to resolve it. No date as to when it will happen. My guess is that they will hold of until Dominion seeing as its only affecting a few of us.
Are we allowed to paste/post bug report response in the forum or is it against rules? |
OSGOD
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Posted - 2009.09.16 11:16:00 -
[72]
Edited by: OSGOD on 16/09/2009 11:18:49
have a guess what Gm told me i was the only 1 having this problem asked me to run ping plotter then said packet loss dosent mean anything (cough BULL****) since the so called desync fix i cant stay logged on with 2 accounts more than 30 minutes, before patch could play game 4 52 hrs straight with no DC,
AMD Phenom 9850 Quad-core 2.50 running at 3 gig
4 GB corsair dominator ram
vista 64 bit ultimate
ATI radeon HD 3870 x 2
i also use thermaltake water cooling with cat coolant(caterpillar mobile mining gear antifreeze best thier is)
24 kbps upstream /1020 downsream internet connection
as a paying customer i expect a lot better service than this ,very tempted to go to fanfest
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Umtagati
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Posted - 2009.09.16 11:57:00 -
[73]
This patch has been a real pain in the arse!
One of my accounts i have no problems with but the other having problems every day.
When i log in to select main or alt it crashes alot and changing resolution to lowest and turning down all graphics does nothing.
My overview is constantly messed up i have to look in local to be sure of standings of players and when i go into my saved fittings and select them for a ship it keeps leaving one or two items off and have to click fit again.
I have deleted my eve client and reinstalled it cleared my cache and is still messed up.
Roll on next patch ASAP CCP!!!
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PJRiddick
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Posted - 2009.09.16 13:27:00 -
[74]
last inght i did a couple missions without any problems and from reports from the corp, so far they havent had any real troubles. I am experiencing an intermittant crash on my alts machine but that is due to a powersupply problem,..takes me all the way back to reboot, not game client related.
I realy havent had any real troubles scence the weekend,....maybe a bit laggie at times but thats it.
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MrLuciferi
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Posted - 2009.09.18 05:39:00 -
[75]
Edited by: MrLuciferi on 18/09/2009 05:39:47
After you had the API fixed I've been having major problems. Before I could have 2-3 clients running in windowed mode with no issues at all and 50-60 FPS. Now it's impossible. After about 10 minutes things are slowing down, and open tabs takes 1-5 minutes. With screen turning black and say client doesn't answer just to come back again... FPS dropping to 5-10, and after 15-20 mins everything stops working. Closing down clients takes up to 20 minutes.
Windows Vista 64 Ultimate
Core2Duo 3.01
4GB RAM
GTX 260
10Mbit line
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PJRiddick
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Posted - 2009.09.18 14:59:00 -
[76]
CCP:
Im not *****ing about this but i have been hereing from the corp mates that in missions and when salvaging, the drops are really light and lots of realy crappy stuff.
How about giving us some better drops,....lvl 3s and 4s,
it would be nice,...that and more salvage to.
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Brycesv1
Caldari
Subspace Freelancers
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Posted - 2009.09.22 19:18:00 -
[77]
i just want to see the random disconnects stop and i want to hear my guns blowing the holy **** out of everything
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Gaetano Sizziano
Gallente
Cerrus Brighter Futures Inc
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Posted - 2009.09.24 05:37:00 -
[78]
test
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Daiferas
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Posted - 2009.10.12 15:30:00 -
[79]
Two minor issues to report.
1. Entering a station in a pod when you have no ship at the station results in insurance giving you the rookie ship and tritanium when you haven't actually lost a ship.
2. Fitting strip miners (not sure if others do this) from a ship maintenance array or Orca results in the miners not showing on the ship and no laser animation while mining, however you still get ore, just no laser animation.
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