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Cavazos Caldari BlackWater Mercenary's	Posted - 2009.09.10 13:32:00 - [1] ok ik this ship is no where near the best of the interceptors and i wondering how this fit looked for a claw. The targeting range is around 27.5km and and it does around 137 dps w/ barrage. [Claw, New Setup 1] Gyrostabilizer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Overdrive Injector System II 1MN MicroWarpdrive II J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S 'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Gremlin Rocket Small Ionic Field Projector I Small Targeting System Subcontroller I info is welcome and thanked regards, Cavazos
Grut Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.09.10 15:17:00 - [2] I'd always fit a 400mm rolled tungsten to a claw. Kinsy > deadman you there? Kinsy > are either of us in pods, becase we dont know... Mostly harmless [ 2005.12.09 19:22:50 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble the Dreadnought
Andrea Skye Caldari The Python Cartel.	Posted - 2009.09.10 15:21:00 - [3] Edited by: Andrea Skye on 10/09/2009 15:21:56 200mm x 3 Arbalast rocket Lancher Best named scram Best named MWD 200mm Rolled tungston Small armor rep II Damage control II Overdrive II (or a Adaptive plate, but i prefer the speed from the OD) rigs: Damage and RoF reasonably fast, quite tough, and decent dps. I love it! :P You also need decent fitting skills to get it all on, if you cant fit something due to cpu then just use a named damage control. Lacking PG? then downgrade the guns :)
Stuart Price Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.09.10 15:28:00 - [4] Originally by: Grut I'd always fit a 400mm rolled tungsten to a claw. This. 3 x 125mm Gat AC II's 1 x Small Energy Neut II 1 x 1mn MWD II 1 x Warp Scram II 1 x 400mm RRT Plate 1 x OD II 1 x Nano II 1 x MAPC I 1 x Projectile ROF Rig 1 x Projectile Damage Rig Putting the 'irate' into 'Pirate'
SuiJuris Absinthe Brothers Consortium	Posted - 2009.09.10 15:29:00 - [5] If you want to actually beat say a Ranis or a Crusader which is a VERY tall order, try a using a Small Neut in the highs and enough tank to last until that neut turns there guns off. Play possum and make them MWD to catch you so there cap is close to dry when they finally do, as most dogfighting ceptors are not cap stable and if they are its right around 33%, thats your best bet, goodluck. I've never lost to a claw in my Crusader but then I can't say for sure if I've ever fought a well fit one. --- Ceptor Pilots HULL tank
Suas Perkone	Posted - 2009.09.10 15:51:00 - [6] Stop...speedfitting...combat...interceptors... ;________; _________________________ HELLO! I am Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. PREPARE TO DIE!
Jan'z Kolna Dark Star Cartel	Posted - 2009.09.10 16:53:00 - [7] cavazos, your fit is best from posted here at least combination disruptor/speed makes sense, I mean, for gang tackle, not dogfighting mwd/scrambler combo is fail IMO,as is mixing speed&tank mods i don't fly AB interceptors, i don't go short range ,i intercept :) if i wanted dogfighting , i'd take rifter :) claw, long range tackle: 3x250mm t2, malkuth rocket mwd, 24km disruptor 2xnanofiber 2 other slots - i prefer 2x TE , best named ,giving effective arty range 18.5 km with rf emp (opt+falloff) no cpu for gyro, hence rather pitiful dps if not TE, then whatever to taste - ODI for more speed, or resists for some semblance of tank rigs - proj dmg and rof with wrong pilot at helm ,dies to one volley from arty hurricane ( i know, i killed similar fit :) ) but then , tanked inty with wrong pilot dies to 2 volleys, that's 6.5sec longer ( triple gyros give nice rof reduction :) ) malkuth for anti-drone/defenders (at least some missle dmg mitigation) t2 disruptor is 'must-have' , you rather want to stay outside neut range as long as possible ( that's 1'50'' for me ) cap stable, arties can track drones no problem CETERUM CENSEO CALDARI NERFAM ESSE
kessah Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.10 17:39:00 - [8] [Claw, New Setup 1] Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Small Armor Repairer II Adaptive Nano Plating II 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S Small Nosferatu II Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Does me very nicely. Switch out the trimarks for something more preferable to your tastes if you wish. Eats up Taranis and Saders with ease. 5.4k EFT HP's
SuiJuris Absinthe Brothers Consortium	Posted - 2009.09.10 17:46:00 - [9] Originally by: kessah [Claw, New Setup 1] Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Small Armor Repairer II Adaptive Nano Plating II 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S Small Nosferatu II Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Does me very nicely. Switch out the trimarks for something more preferable to your tastes if you wish. Eats up Taranis and Saders with ease. 5.4k EFT HP's A Properly fit Taranis with just a DCU II for tank has almost 4kehp and does nearly 300 dps. Your claw setup would need to do more dps to be able to take out a properly fit Taranis. --- Ceptor Pilots HULL tank
kessah Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.10 17:51:00 - [10] Originally by: SuiJuris Originally by: kessah [Claw, New Setup 1] Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Small Armor Repairer II Adaptive Nano Plating II 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S Small Nosferatu II Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Does me very nicely. Switch out the trimarks for something more preferable to your tastes if you wish. Eats up Taranis and Saders with ease. 5.4k EFT HP's A Properly fit Taranis with just a DCU II for tank has almost 4kehp and does nearly 300 dps. Your claw setup would need to do more dps to be able to take out a properly fit Taranis. Explosive damage makes your Ranis rather weak to Claws, ive been very successful killing properly fit ranis pilots.
1600 RT	Posted - 2009.09.10 19:41:00 - [11] Originally by: kessah Originally by: SuiJuris Originally by: kessah [Claw, New Setup 1] Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Small Armor Repairer II Adaptive Nano Plating II 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S Small Nosferatu II Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Does me very nicely. Switch out the trimarks for something more preferable to your tastes if you wish. Eats up Taranis and Saders with ease. 5.4k EFT HP's A Properly fit Taranis with just a DCU II for tank has almost 4kehp and does nearly 300 dps. Your claw setup would need to do more dps to be able to take out a properly fit Taranis. Explosive damage makes your Ranis rather weak to Claws, ive been very successful killing properly fit ranis pilots. explo damage means nothing on taranis since 60% of taranis HP are in the hull
kessah Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.10 19:44:00 - [12] Easy way to settle this. 1v1?
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2009.09.10 19:56:00 - [13] Edited by: Omara Otawan on 10/09/2009 20:02:58 Originally by: kessah Explosive damage makes your Ranis rather weak to Claws, ive been very successful killing properly fit ranis pilots. Explosive damage doesnt change anything for the taranis tbh, its EHP is surprisingly uniform for all damage types. Against a claw, on the other hand... Anyway, plates on a ceptor, well if you really want to, but trimarks makes me a sad panda. While I can see you beating a taranis if he messes up with this fit, what do you intend to do against a crusader?
SuiJuris Absinthe Brothers Consortium	Posted - 2009.09.10 20:04:00 - [14] Edited by: SuiJuris on 10/09/2009 20:05:24 Originally by: Omara Otawan Originally by: kessah Explosive damage makes your Ranis rather weak to Claws, ive been very successful killing properly fit ranis pilots. Explosive damage doesnt change anything for the taranis tbh, its EHP is surprisingly uniform for all damage types. Against a claw, on the other hand... Anyway, plates on a ceptor, well if you really want to, but trimarks makes me a sad panda. I aggree lol. Trimarks, I have to say the sader fit I use in fleet fights to remove other fleets tackle goes almsot 5200 ms, and ITS very nice to be going 5200 ms before overheat because i spend a ****load less time running down 5kms ares after 5kms crow, after 5kms claw yada yada yada. I managed to get 7 Solo kills in the middle of 1 40 vs 40 fleet fight and 5 of them were tech 2 frigates. --- Ceptor Pilots HULL tank
kessah Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.11 01:05:00 - [15] Originally by: kessah Easy way to settle this. 1v1? Thats what i indend to do. If you are confident in telling me and the New Eve public on how to fit your ships, Then you can beat me as a test to your awesome eft skillz. Im waiting. I'll Fraps and gladly post as a loser if i do your skills as an interceptor pilot, but if your wrong i except the same in return. Tbh this is a bargin because i dont sell eve characters Had kessah for 5 years.
Lilith Velkor Minmatar Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity	Posted - 2009.09.11 01:24:00 - [16] Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 11/09/2009 01:28:53 Originally by: kessah Im waiting. I'll Fraps and gladly post as a loser if i do your skills as an interceptor pilot, but if your wrong i except the same in return. Hit me up in game (evemail), we try to arrange something. I dont fly crusaders or ranises, but my artillery claw against your trimarked plate-claw.
kessah Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.11 14:22:00 - [17] Edited by: kessah on 11/09/2009 14:23:17 Originally by: Lilith Velkor Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 11/09/2009 01:28:53 Originally by: kessah Im waiting. I'll Fraps and gladly post as a loser if i do your skills as an interceptor pilot, but if your wrong i except the same in return. Hit me up in game (evemail), we try to arrange something. I dont fly crusaders or ranises, but my artillery claw against your trimarked plate-claw. That fight will have you kiting outside of scramble range, and il be overloading to try and get you there. Little point (no pun intended). Its was an offer to Sujaris or what not for his taranis. Actually would like to ask, what is a 'properly' fit Taranis these days (common setup).
SuiJuris Absinthe Brothers Consortium	Posted - 2009.09.11 14:47:00 - [18] Edited by: SuiJuris on 11/09/2009 14:48:49 Originally by: kessah Edited by: kessah on 11/09/2009 14:23:17 Originally by: Lilith Velkor Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 11/09/2009 01:28:53 Originally by: kessah Im waiting. I'll Fraps and gladly post as a loser if i do your skills as an interceptor pilot, but if your wrong i except the same in return. Hit me up in game (evemail), we try to arrange something. I dont fly crusaders or ranises, but my artillery claw against your trimarked plate-claw. That fight will have you kiting outside of scramble range, and il be overloading to try and get you there. Little point (no pun intended). Its was an offer to Sujaris or what not for his taranis. Actually would like to ask, what is a 'properly' fit Taranis these days (common setup). I can't fly a Ranis yet, sadly still training for it. Very comon setups are the dual prop mod setup and a full gank setup. [Taranis, New Setup 1] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot] Hybrid Burst Aerator I Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Hobgoblin II x2 My Sader fits are as follows, [Crusader, New Setup 2] Adaptive Nano Plating II Small Armor Repairer II Heat Sink II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Gatling Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Gatling Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Gatling Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Gatling Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Energy Burst Aerator I Energy Collision Accelerator I Second fit is for fleet work as I can hold tackle on targets that would eat me in scram range and it goes over 5kms for chasing down stilletto after ares after crow after burning 60km for those stealthbombers. [Crusader, New Setup 1] Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Faint Warp Disruptor I Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency S Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency S Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency S Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency S Energy Burst Aerator I Energy Locus Coordinator I --- Ceptor Pilots HULL tank
SuiJuris Absinthe Brothers Consortium	Posted - 2009.09.11 14:58:00 - [19] Also looking at your setup, I have no idea how you catch a tackling Ares / crow / Malediction, most the ones I have to chase down go 4900 ms+ before they overheat and yours barely squeezes out 4800+ with a overheat. --- Ceptor Pilots HULL tank
Marko Riva Adamant Inc.	Posted - 2009.09.11 15:06:00 - [20] Originally by: SuiJuris Also looking at your setup, I have no idea how you catch a tackling Ares / crow / Malediction, most the ones I have to chase down go 4900 ms+ before they overheat and yours barely squeezes out 4800+ with a overheat. piloting, experience and paying attention. Ofcourse if the other side does the same thing they can/will win, but in that case they deserve it. Most people are lazy, lack experience and don't actually put in effort which makes a big difference in intie fights.
kessah Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.11 15:13:00 - [21] Originally by: SuiJuris Also looking at your setup, I have no idea how you catch a tackling Ares / crow / Malediction, most the ones I have to chase down go 4900 ms+ before they overheat and yours barely squeezes out 4800+ with a overheat. Very easy actually. They only need so mess up once and when/if they do they are dead there are no second chances. I bump them off gates (there orbit makes them collide with it) and then overload and bang. Same with belts. Ive waited for them to have that mwd running in their orbit, waited for their Perigee and just lunged at them. The sader setup with gatling pulse is something i used as soon as the scramble patch came into effect. Very good setup.
Canaloney Soup	Posted - 2009.09.11 15:31:00 - [22] Edited by: Canaloney Soup on 11/09/2009 15:31:32 In my claw take out gank fit blaster ranis with about 20-40% armour left and sader even easier to kill even the 15km pulse sader, rail ranis r a pain though
Lilith Velkor Minmatar Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity	Posted - 2009.09.11 16:48:00 - [23] Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 11/09/2009 16:50:40 Originally by: kessah That fight will have you kiting outside of scramble range, and il be overloading to try and get you there. Little point (no pun intended). Most likely, that is the problem with the trimark rigs only though. Even with overloading it would be very difficult to get in range I think, as your fit is still significantly slower overheated than mine without, and you'd have to close in 7-9km. Have you considered something like this, it has no active rep and a like 800 less EHP, but makes up for that with over 50% damage increase, can carry a small rep in cargo and repair after fights: [Claw, New Setup 1 import 3] Internal Force Field Array I Gyrostabilizer II Adaptive Nano Plating II 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S Small Remote Armor Repair System II /OFFLINE Projectile Burst Aerator I Projectile Collision Accelerator I If the IFFA is too expensive, can use a cpu implant for a cheaper one, or you can drop to the initiated harmonic scrambler. Or something like this if you really want that EHP over 5k, also over 40% more dps, which kinda offsets the lack of a repper and quite a bit faster: [Claw, New Setup 1 import 3] Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II Adaptive Nano Plating II 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Projectile Burst Aerator I Projectile Collision Accelerator I
SuiJuris Absinthe Brothers Consortium	Posted - 2009.09.11 21:08:00 - [24] Originally by: kessah Edited by: kessah on 11/09/2009 14:23:17 Originally by: Lilith Velkor Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 11/09/2009 01:28:53 Originally by: kessah Im waiting. I'll Fraps and gladly post as a loser if i do your skills as an interceptor pilot, but if your wrong i except the same in return. Hit me up in game (evemail), we try to arrange something. I dont fly crusaders or ranises, but my artillery claw against your trimarked plate-claw. That fight will have you kiting outside of scramble range, and il be overloading to try and get you there. Little point (no pun intended). Its was an offer to Sujaris or what not for his taranis. Actually would like to ask, what is a 'properly' fit Taranis these days (common setup). I spend most my pvp time in and around the Amarr FW area, in Tuomuta, I have a sader there if you want to 1v1. Provided no funny business with loading up on em and therm resistances. I'll use my Dual light pulse fit with a mwd and scram against your plate active rep fit. --- Ceptor Pilots HULL tank
Cavazos Caldari BlackWater Mercenary's	Posted - 2009.09.13 02:29:00 - [25] Originally by: SuiJuris Also looking at your setup, I have no idea how you catch a tackling Ares / crow / Malediction, most the ones I have to chase down go 4900 ms+ before they overheat and yours barely squeezes out 4800+ with a overheat. if your talking about my claw fit your very wrong it goes 5.1km/s w/o overheat
SuiJuris Absinthe Brothers Consortium	Posted - 2009.09.13 03:12:00 - [26] Originally by: Cavazos Originally by: SuiJuris Also looking at your setup, I have no idea how you catch a tackling Ares / crow / Malediction, most the ones I have to chase down go 4900 ms+ before they overheat and yours barely squeezes out 4800+ with a overheat. if your talking about my claw fit your very wrong it goes 5.1km/s w/o overheat Was talking about the trimarked plated claw --- http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1177119

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