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Dreez
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:41:00 -
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Was testing some EW today in FFA1, jamming some people who were ganging up on other poor souls.
My ship was a scorpion, and my skills in EW is almost maxed out. I was using t2 jammers and sitting
about 100km from my targets, still, it took me ~10 cycles on a dominix to jam him, which is horrible.
E-war should NOT be about chances. Once you train your Ew-skills to max, and you fly a ship BUILT FOR E-War
fitted with t2 jamming modules, there should be almost no chance of failing unless the target is heavily
backed up on its sensorstrenght. With my skills, in a scorpion with t2 gear and optimal range, i should
be able to jam my targets with ease, but this is currently not the case.
It's like you would train your shieldboosting skills to max but it only reps your shield if you are
really lucky. And people also whine about that EW was too powerful at one point.
Ever heard of ECCM ?.
If you watch some of the eve-vids where people fly blasterthrons, you will notice that they mostly
carry at least 1 ECCM module, to avoid getting jammed. Currently the most effective EW is a simple
dampner with range-script. It's time to bring EW back to glory and revive scorpions & rooks again.
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el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.09.10 20:16:00 -
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Revamp?
 Originally by: Dreez
E-war should NOT be about chances.
I agree, chance-based game mechanics are fail.
Originally by: Dreez
Currently the most effective EW is a simple dampner with range-script.
I lol'd.
Originally by: Dreez
It's time to bring EW back to glory and revive scorpions & rooks again.
You're going to get flamed so hard.
I can't tell if you're a troll or incredibly stupid. I miss the days when I could tell the difference. 
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2009.09.10 21:42:00 -
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Appart from the lolz this is the wrong forum. Go here for suggesting features: Linkage
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Veliria
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Posted - 2009.09.10 21:57:00 -
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I wonder how you plan ECM to work without using a chance based system?
You intending for ECM modules to reduce the max targets that can be locked one by one instead?
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:01:00 -
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I fly a Rook and it's been amazingly effective.
Only conclusion I can reach is you're a troll.
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Captain Mastiff
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Posted - 2009.09.12 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Mastiff on 12/09/2009 12:18:51
Lol?
I slightly agree, but as someone else said how are you going to use EW without chanced based...
However I understand his point in that for all the skills you trained it is pretty poor that using the formula to say a 60% jamming potential, you cycle 6 race specific jammers on him and they all fail then you're toast.
Though someone who has a mega buffer tank and someone shield transferring to him will always 100% of the time receive that shield bonus from the transfer. Same with general boosting etc.
It's a poor example... I know but I think making Electronic Warfare like using missiles where they always land would be extremely stupid, irresponsible of CCP. Possibly, just possibly have a little bit more strength in the modules and I mean a little more. A couple of Rooks or even blackbirds can effectively jam but it just seems the chance based system fails you more than it should... 50% doesn't feel like 50% in Eve!
Maybe if your cycle fails it has some additional effect rather than wasted cap and your ship exploding. Perhaps a failed jamming cycle reduces their sensor strength for a second or so? Perhaps it comes up with a message saying "Train your EW Skills you nub"
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Hayaishi
Gallente
Swiftarrow Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.09.12 16:30:00 -
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tbh nerf ECM, make sensor damps the optimal range of ECM and ECM the range of sensor damps.
it would make sense, anyone agree?
(if you're pro ECM, your point is invalid...)
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Renarla
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Posted - 2009.09.12 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dreez
Currently by far the absolutely least effective EW is a simple
dampner with range-script.
Fixed.
And fix damps. 
However, on another note, I now have one of those annoying sigs. |
Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.13 08:58:00 -
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Some simple question for the OP.
Your targets were in a gang with someone boosting sensor strength?
Your target ship had boosted its sensor strength?
As you don't know those simple information your wine is useless.
The ship you targeted could have boosted its sensor strength to an high level and that can be the simple reason why you failed.
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TheRealBanana1
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.13 11:46:00 -
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No ECM rigs on your dedicated ECM ship?
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Lili Lu
Purveyors of Uber Research Valuables and Ships
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Posted - 2009.09.13 14:07:00 -
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Ok, others have flamed you. So I won't.
What I will say is that yes, the ew balance situation is messed up atm. CCP after much delay realized there was a Falcon problem. They then did the typical nerf. However, because it was a Caldari mechanic (majority of eve flies Caldari), they also did the typical instant re-buff to try to compensate (Gallente, Minmatar, and Amarr still waiting on compensatory buffs). 30% per level is ridiculous. ECM still rules, and the other ew is still meh.
Well, here's where I agree with you, sorta. Rollback the Falcon nerf as it relates to the Rook. Cut force recon targeting range, and with needed buffs to damps and webs, as well as something for the Pilgrim, leave all the force recons as short range roaming ships or solo gankers. Make the Rook able to ECM again in the 150(optimal with rigs) -200km range (max with falloff). Then buff the damp, painter, and td boats so they too can apply their ew at that range (always in falloff). Rooks with the old 20% bonuses would have to jam fleet snipers, Lachesi, Curse, and Huginns. Lachesi would be trying to damp Rooks, Curse, Huginns, and snipers. Huginns would be painting whatever for the snipers. And Curses would be td-ing snipers.
This situation would put a lot of strategy back into fleet fights. It would no longer be a simple numbers game. Would pull missiles, Ravens and Scorpions, back into them, as well as boost the cerb, due to the td-ing and painting. One could still use the combat recons for smaller engagements just with a different fit. But they would all be able to fit for a fleet role.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente
War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.09.13 16:33:00 -
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OP, may want to check your TARDIS, you appeared to have arrived to your location several years too late.
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