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Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.12 10:47:00 - [1] Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 12/09/2009 10:54:26 Shieldtanking drone boat? Whoah. Bhaalgorn working (damage + neuts) whoah again. Reading, will comment when i finish ;p EDIT: ok. comment is all round, not by particular ships. guristas - interesting. much better for small gangs/solo than domi (thx to uber crystal set compared to slave set) bloods - like sansha on steroids. well at least they can deal decent/good damage and still use its bonuses sansha - ^^ seems little less omph now after you introduced other changes ;p but good serp - interesting marauder combo angel - same, good marauder bonus
Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.12 11:09:00 - [2] Originally by: Dibsi Dei Empire faction ships: Obsolete even before implemented to the game. price difference tier1 bs will cost around 400m pirate bs around 1400m ;p (nah just kidding, but they will be at least 2x more expensive)
Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.12 12:00:00 - [3] Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 12/09/2009 12:05:13 Originally by: wallenbergaren Slightly less damage yes, but it has much more PG and one more rig slot Rep bonus hardly matters in PvP Weaker webs, but one more mid Actually in faction battleship PVP rep bonus matters THE MOST. Those ships arent used (and if they are then rearely) in blobfests. They are used in solo/very small gang situations where your local rep is much better than using buffer tank. Thus 4k DPS tank kronos is quite nice toy - can be used to engage up to 4-5 battleships solo. 37,5% less rep = around 3k dps tank = you can engage 1 BS less. Quote: Lets be honest, this new Bhaalgorn is a solowtfpwnmobile. 8 effective turret slots, and three extremely bonused neuts. It will web anything it can shoot It is. And it will cost accordingly. Quote: I don't want solowtfpwnmobiles in EVE. It neuts like 2 Domis and DPSes like an Abaddon No it doesnt DPS like an abaddon. It DPSes like an apoc. And no its not solowtfpwn mobile. Its good but putting 4-5 battleships on it will break it (unless you invest in full xtype stuff for reps). Still its easier to kill than kronos/shield tankers. Quote: And the Gila 400m3 drone bay? 125 mbit/s bandwidth? That's the same as the Navy Dominix for crying out loud, but it's a cruiser. The myrmidon, which is one ship class higher, has 75 mbit/s and it doesn't have 3 bonuses. All faction ships have 3 bonuses. Myrm is not faction, its normal t1. Also its still a cruiser (with nice damage to boot). Few seconds of focused fire and gila is dead.
Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.12 12:11:00 - [4] Originally by: Count Helmchen Originally by: El Yatta Why is the Ashimmu better at damage AND using its utility highs (uberneuts) than the Phantasm? wrong ashimmu deals 488dps (4x HPL II + 2x HS II) phantasm deals 518dps (3x HPL II +2x HS II +3x Hob's II) ashimmu get neuts , phantasm get drones simple 20 dps difference for uberneuts and uberwebs(which negate tracking more than 25% tracking bonus on phantasm)? hm....
Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.12 12:21:00 - [5] I like daredevil tho. This one is a beast. Taranis (1x magstab 3x neutron, 2x damage rigs) does around 300-340dps overheated (280ish without oh). Thats 4,5 effective turret. Daredevil can push it up to 400dps. Lmao. If you are in sabre and see daredevil - RUN ;p
Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.12 12:26:00 - [6] Originally by: Tom Hanks I think your Bhaalgorn is a lot more how it should be. One thing to change. Give it an 8th high slot. You give it plenty of CPU (FINALLY) so please allow use of 8th high slot for one more heavy neut or nos, or even a cyno or something for calling in triage help. I think it would be too good ;p Its already a beast Quote: WHEN WILL THIS BE RELEASED/ Dominion. So around december iirc
Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.12 13:10:00 - [7] Wonder how fast will machariel be able to go. And will it be able to bump caps from docking range? ;p
Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.12 13:21:00 - [8] Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 12/09/2009 13:21:45 Originally by: Schmell Originally by: Deva Blackfire Wonder how fast will machariel be able to go. And will it be able to bump caps from docking range? ;p They changed mass and agility. Base speed is the same ... dumbo. mass comes into top speed equation. HEAVILY. Thus it will go much faster than now. Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer Thanks for the feedback, keep it coming. Related to testing on Singularity, we will make the pirate and navy ships available to all (probably through the redeeming system), as we want these changes to be extensively tested. If internal testing goes well and nothing asplodes, we will release these changes on Singularity next week. O_o Both new navy ships and faction? Or only faction?
Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.12 18:06:00 - [9] Originally by: Liang Nuren IMO, pirate bonus needs to goto 50% ROF, and leave it with 4 launchers (and no range bonus). Well, a 5th launcher would make it really nice... def not OP next to the other ships mentioned here. -Liang 50% rof = 8 effective laucnhers (same as normal raven). This means around 1000dps with torps plus another 480 dps from ogres. Umm... yeah.
Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.12 18:50:00 - [10] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Deva Blackfire 50% rof = 8 effective laucnhers (same as normal raven). This means around 1000dps with torps plus another 480 dps from ogres. Umm... yeah. CNR has 9.33 eff launchers + 160 DPS from drones (I don't believe in 2/2/1). Raven has 8 eff launchers + 160 DPS from drones. Rattler 8 eff launchers + 475 DPS from drones. I'm just not seeing a problem here. -Liang You are not, CCP will. Read this as: wishful thinking.

Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.12 19:33:00 - [11] Originally by: RedSplat Those of you asking for a trop damage bonus on the rattler... What bonus should it replace? Or should it be the Pirate bonus? I understand the complaints about 4 effective torps, but Drone bonus, Torp damage bonus and Resists makes for an OP hull. Would you lose the resists for a 5% Damage or Rof bonus? Liang wanted to change pirate 50% velocity bonus. OP you say?
Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.12 19:58:00 - [12] Originally by: RedSplat Originally by: Deva Blackfire Liang wanted to change pirate 50% velocity bonus. OP you say? I'd rather see that changed to an explosion velocity bonus and a 5% damage Bonus to Torps (Not ROF) 5% IMO is quite doable. Ends up with 25%. Not 50% lol. And its damage not ROF. Tho if really needed it could just get more launcher slots. For example go with 6 launcher slots (this is 50% damage boost) but like with domi: force it to use RCU to actually fit this (shame there are no "downgraded" launchers).
Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.13 12:32:00 - [13] Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda Originally by: kimy jojo +1 launcher point on snake pls, as they are not damage or rof bonused Debatable. DPS numbers are between 600-700 with Ogre IIs. Snake trades blunt force for tank sustainability. If you want a blunt offense, check out the new 1300-1500 DPS Vindicator. Naw imo rattler could get even +2 launchers (like domi gets 6 guns). Would need to compromise anyways due to fitting issues with 6x siege t2 (+mwd, injector, xlarge booster etc).
Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.19 00:32:00 - [14] But waah waah rattle is crap, mach is crap! lol Told ya before, ships can be balanced/thought out only by looking at stats. Btw - what was macha fit/did it use snakes (hg?lg?), hardwires?
Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.09.19 18:43:00 - [15] In the post above you are sugesting that bhaalgorn sucks? Lol.
Deva Blackfire 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2009.11.16 16:09:00 - [16] Unless CCP fixed it (did they?) Worm is just crap. You are better off buying ishkur.

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