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Atticus Fynch
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Posted - 2009.09.12 23:51:00 -
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Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 12/09/2009 23:51:45
Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 12/09/2009 23:51:33
This is my first MMO and the one thing I have had to learn is that there is no instant gratification like non-MMO games. If you want to be anyone, get anywhere or accomplish anything of significance, you MUST invest time....and that time is spent on skills.
I have an idea of where I want to go. I am mainly industry oriented and not so much into pew-pew...but I need to study, study, study.
Overall EVE is a fun game, but it's a bit like Christmas..."I cant wait until i have this skill or that skill so I can do x,y,z"
Sometimes it can be frustrating: "Man, I wish I could take out some battleships but all I have is a pea-shooter."
Then there is the diary of a courier run:"
10 Pick up stuff
20 Take nap while en route to delivery destination
30 Wake up in time to dock
40 GOTO 10
So I'm investing time....just hope it pays out.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2009.09.12 23:55:00 -
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I've been waiting for 3 years and I'm still not where I want to be
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Bestofworst
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.12 23:56:00 -
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I joined the game for Battleships, kicking myself because of it.
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ServantOfMask
Minmatar
Foundation
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.09.13 00:17:00 -
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Edited by: ServantOfMask on 13/09/2009 00:18:11
i dunno what couriers your doing ... i only did level 4 couriers and they where 98% shuttle flying, 1% hauler (damn garbage/janitors/mats for war) and 1% combat. add in the fact that most of the couriers i ran in the shuttle were either in-system (undock warp dock) or simple 2-3 hop jumps done in about 5 minutes it was pretty fast money / lp and i never had time for a nap.
if its too boring fit a destroyer or frigate and do some low level combat missions for the kick of it. hell you can run level 3 missions in a cruiser for a kick, level 4's will probably eat it alive but by that point couriers are attractive as a nearly risk-free isk print. granted they used to pay much better when implants only came from LP offers or storyline missions since you could get 1 or more storylines /hr.
EDIT: the Christmas style wait never ends.. since once you reach the shiny you are currently waiting for you will have 2 more shinies on your mind making you antsy for skills to complete. it's all part of the joy that is eve.
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Joethelions
Caldari
Universal Order
Utopian Order
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Posted - 2009.09.13 00:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Bestofworst
I joined the game for Battleships, kicking myself because of it.
battleships are rely good and best ships in game wat r u talken about?????
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Bestofworst
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.13 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Joethelions
Originally by: Bestofworst
I joined the game for Battleships, kicking myself because of it.
battleships are rely good and best ships in game wat r u talken about?????
Talking about how much I've heard they've been nerfed, how many times they've been looked over for by HAC pilots, how many skills I need just to fly one properly. I'm currently training Inty IV.
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The Riddik
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Posted - 2009.09.13 03:42:00 -
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your missing the point.
CCP has pretty much, imho,differentiated the ship classes pretty well.
every class of ship in the game has a definate use in certain situations, but its up to you to figure that out.
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Michwich
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Posted - 2009.09.13 03:53:00 -
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Buy more isk!!
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Manu Hermanus
FaDoyToy
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Posted - 2009.09.13 03:54:00 -
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no, eve is a waste of time, as is any mmo/video game/most tv programs/books.
luckily I have lots of time that I don't value highly 
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.09.13 06:59:00 -
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Edited by: Zartanic on 13/09/2009 07:01:20
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 12/09/2009 23:51:45
Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 12/09/2009 23:51:33
This is my first MMO and the one thing I have had to learn is that there is no instant gratification like non-MMO games. If you want to be anyone, get anywhere or accomplish anything of significance, you MUST invest time....and that time is spent on skills.
I have an idea of where I want to go. I am mainly industry oriented and not so much into pew-pew...but I need to study, study, study.
Overall EVE is a fun game, but it's a bit like Christmas..."I cant wait until i have this skill or that skill so I can do x,y,z"
Sometimes it can be frustrating: "Man, I wish I could take out some battleships but all I have is a pea-shooter."
Then there is the diary of a courier run:"
10 Pick up stuff
20 Take nap while en route to delivery destination
30 Wake up in time to dock
40 GOTO 10
So I'm investing time....just hope it pays out.
Well all MMORPG's are a time sink. The good thing about EVE is you can do a lot from the first week, including destroying that battleship.
And doing couriers is second only to mining in my list of boring things to do. So the wait would be very boring.
What I tend to do is forget what I'm training for and play with what I have. That stops me sitting there waiting which was the big mistake I made when I first played this game for a while a few years back. I found that after all that training I was not really that much better off and still bored as I had not worked out what I really liked to do with what I had.
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Morreth
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Posted - 2009.09.13 07:22:00 -
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Well, then wonderful news! Once you get your hauler skills up, it will still be just like that, only you'll make more money and have to stay at your PC so you don't get ganked.
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The AEther
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.09.13 09:03:00 -
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Well for pve/pvp players in this game the trick to making the training time fly by faster is when you get into a new ship, try to spend some time perfecting the way you are flying it. Work out several good fits, test them out in game, boost your player-knowledge about tactics used in that ship. This will take weeks and even months. By that time you will have discovered that you have just trained up to use a new ship in game, so you can repeat the process again. Many players when they start out just rush to train up to the most expensive and what they think are most powerful ships in game. If they fail running level 3 mission in their battlecruiser this means that they really have to train up to that battleship asap. Then they find themselves stuck looking at their skill points tickling in. I don't really know what the indy players do ... seems to me all you can do is mine rock and read online guides while you wait for those skills to train up.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2009.09.13 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker
I've been waiting for 3 years and I'm still not where I want to be
I've only been playing for two years, but I've gotten to where I want to be five times now.
Onwards to the next one! 
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you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
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Blasphemour
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Posted - 2009.09.14 14:14:00 -
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same here, first MMO here, thought I would play one or two night a week after I had a few skills which would make my playtime usefull.
Fool that I was... :D
It is a major timesink indeed, as has been said thousands of times before (this year...) and you just have to decide if it is wort it.
The big pro on eve is that you 'level up' while you are offline, w*****g the forums, working (right.... eve players work.... I am present in an office building and get payed :P ) and such...
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.09.14 14:34:00 -
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According to the login info I've spend a total of 552d 17h 20m in New Eden, so yep EVE is surely an investment in time.
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Crimsoneer
Gallente
Knowledge Stick Station
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Posted - 2009.09.14 15:21:00 -
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Why are you just sitting around doing courrier missions instead of stuff you enjoy? It isn't going to get any more fun just because you're now doing missions with a BS instead of an ity. Go and PvP or something entertaining! If you're just playing EVE so you can wait for your next skill to train up, you might as well not be playing at all.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2009.09.14 15:25:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 14/09/2009 15:27:15
Skills train themselfs. To get somewhere in the game you have to put in lots of time and build something up, weather its a business or a pirate corp. Eve needs to be like a second life...
And thats why I spend most of my time on the forums instead of in the game. I am the instant gratification type. I dont like grinding and grinding, waiting and waiting, to get somewhere 3 years later. Its not for me. I can do that on a job to get somewhere but not in Eve.
But if I end up unemployed, Eve is my insurance. :)
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.14 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Crimsoneer
Why are you just sitting around doing courrier missions instead of stuff you enjoy? It isn't going to get any more fun just because you're now doing missions with a BS instead of an ity. Go and PvP or something entertaining! If you're just playing EVE so you can wait for your next skill to train up, you might as well not be playing at all.
Not true. The forums are worth the $15 a month and then some!
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Doppleganger
Minmatar
Libera Mentem Tuam
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Posted - 2009.09.14 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker
I've been waiting for 3 years and I'm still not where I want to be
I have been here about 6.5 yrs not including beta and I'm still not where I want to be... by now I thought I would be Jovian.  Since back when I started CCP said Jovians would be a playable race in the future.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.09.14 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Crimsoneer
Why are you just sitting around doing courrier missions instead of stuff you enjoy? It isn't going to get any more fun just because you're now doing missions with a BS instead of an ity. Go and PvP or something entertaining! If you're just playing EVE so you can wait for your next skill to train up, you might as well not be playing at all.
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Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
The Bastards
The Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.09.14 19:46:00 -
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Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 14/09/2009 19:49:55
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
This is my first MMO and the one thing I have had to learn is that there is no instant gratification like non-MMO games. If you want to be anyone, get anywhere or accomplish anything of significance, you MUST invest time....and that time is spent on skills.
I have an idea of where I want to go. I am mainly industry oriented and not so much into pew-pew...but I need to study, study, study.
Overall EVE is a fun game, but it's a bit like Christmas..."I cant wait until i have this skill or that skill so I can do x,y,z"
Sometimes it can be frustrating: "Man, I wish I could take out some battleships but all I have is a pea-shooter."
Then there is the diary of a courier run:"
10 Pick up stuff
20 Take nap while en route to delivery destination
30 Wake up in time to dock
40 GOTO 10
So I'm investing time....just hope it pays out.[/quote
I can tell you one thing as a player that has been playing since '03.
Once you've passed that 100mil skillpoint mark, and you realize you have so much left to do...
THIS seems much more important than skillpoints on your character.
Right now you feel your character is useless and empty. If that were the case then why do many older players play with a second account with a lower skillpoint char?
The truth of the matter is that your meta-game needs a bit of inspiration. Knowledge and experience come after the modivation to find a useful place for yourself in eve.
For example, if you're interested in industry do some research on hauling. That IS a useful skill for beginning players. Don't do courier contracts, do research and find corps or even players that would be interested in letting you haul. Do it for free at first then use that as a way to find more useful parts for you to play. Get in an experienced corp and offer to help people with their level 5 mission salvage and hauling just for the chance to come along for the bounties and faction. Things like that get you ahead far quicker than training skills on your character.
If you're into pvp learn the basic skills to tackle and go bait/tackle for a group of pirates. A good tackle/scout is probably the most important part of a good fleet. If you get good enough at it you can bum free ships off of the corp for awhile as frigs are really cheap for most corps. In the bastards we pirate to make isk, so in time you will get better and start making isk by pirating.
If alliance 0.0 stuff is your style, get some basic info on the alliance, try to join up and if you do make yourself useful by exploring when you're not in fleets.
In all cases:
Learn to use the directional scanner fast and well.
Learn about common ships and what they're set up with, how they work etc.
Ask questions and learn history.
In eve, the single most important skillset to train is your communication and social skills for real life. Trust is the most valuable thing in eve, not isk. You can be a trustworthy eve player with zero skillpoints on your character and make billions of isk by auditing. For that matter, you can make just as much being a 'trustworthy' spy for an alliance and use meta-game skills to social engineer useful information.
So, don't let appearances be so deceiving, eve isn't like other mmos or games. The fastest way to get rich or successful isn't to play the game but to play people. Invest in that and I promise you eve is full of riches that others will continually miss day after day.
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Kaaii
Caldari
KaaiiNet Holding Executor Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.14 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
According to the login info I've spend a total of 552d 17h 20m in New Eden, so yep EVE is surely an investment in time.
Amateur....
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there.
kieron
Director of Community Relations,
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Wacktopia
Infinity Miners Union
Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr
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Posted - 2009.09.14 20:12:00 -
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1. Every MMO takes a lot of time, it's what makes then different from quick-win games.
2. A lot of the time is spent just getting organised, waiting on people.
3. EVE has a lot less grind than other MMOs, think yourself lucky.
4. EVE also enables you get involved from 'day one'. Ok 'week one' at least.
5. Do not play the game just for battleships, they are not the 'end game'.
6. Do not assume that when you have a battleship you will kill everything.
7. You will lose your first battleship surprisingly easily.
8. If you weren't always waiting for something then the game would be more boring.
9. Ignore kill mails and smack talk, they will only make you bitter.
10. What you get for all your time is a load of friends and fun.
Basically: Don't get caught up on how many isk you have, how many ships you blow up or how many faction battleships you own. Play the game and have fun.
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Bropine
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.09.14 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Manu Hermanus
no, eve is a waste of time, as is any mmo/video game/most tv programs/books.
luckily I have lots of time that I don't value highly
LOL! Best response eva!!!
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Ninja Troll
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Posted - 2009.09.15 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Manu Hermanus
no, eve is a waste of time, as is any mmo/video game/most tv programs/books.
luckily I have lots of time that I don't value highly
Pretty much this, for me.
But I do know Facebook addicts that, for whatever reason, like to play their little flash games playing farmer Joe for 25 hours a day.
So, to each 'their' own vOv
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Nito Musashi
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Posted - 2009.09.15 00:46:00 -
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every mmo is a waste of time/timesink, just there are worse timesinks out there like going to strip clubs for nothing but stuffing cash into a girls g string. or going to bar in general and blowing 10 bucks a mixed drink with watered down booze and such. or buying 10 video games a month to beat them in about 20 hours a pop.
lest in eve you can train while not logged in, you can set whatever long as your payed up or bought enough plex to keep you going while you train, and assuming you have enough isk left over to buy that fancy new toy you are training hard for.
where other mmos i would have to be grinding mobs, quests or "pvp" usually for meaningless rank or titles and standing.
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