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EliteProspector
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Posted - 2009.09.13 01:03:00 -
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So I have made about 60b in highsec through trading, and it is getting rather pointless to be making money only for its own sake. I have done very little in 0.0 other than flying around in a shuttle. So I want to ask, if I buy a mothership, fit lots of tank modules, and start flying around 0.0 ratting some belts, looking for officers, picking off small groups of PVPers, maybe running some epic missions, what are my chances of losing my ship? As it is immune to all forms of electronic warfare I could always just warp away, right? But in general I could stay moving at 75% speed (which isn't much) and aligned to a warp destination for easy warp out. I imagine if it looks very bad and the system is filling up with enemy ships I could log off in the middle of warp or something. So, how much of a risk am I taking by doing this solo without joining any corp and just warping to safety when I am outnumbered? I could save up some more for a titan but there doesn't seem to be a huge difference in the defensive capabilities of the two (25% more hp, same low power slots, same resistances). Maybe theres some shock value in the titan but that would be too devastating to lose.
I'd appreciate any analysis of the risk involved here. Thanks
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.09.13 01:09:00 -
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As far as I know, a heavy inderdictor with an infinite point CAN point your ship, and hold you there. Warp disruption bubbles can also prevent you from warping away. Both are very prevalent in 0.0. I doubt you'd last long at all before being blown up, IMO. 0.0 is full of bored blobs that would love to come kill a mothership.
Your best bet surviving solo in 0.0 is probably a recon ship with a MWD and cloak. If it's solo pvp and ratting you want, I highly recommend looking at lowsec before 0.0.
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The Gspot
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Posted - 2009.09.13 01:24:00 -
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Mom in 0.0 not in a big alliance parked at a pos or cloaked in a safe= a dead mom
invest in a t3 ship with some nice officer mods instead, at least you can dock that bird
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Lord Windu
Echelon Warfare Unit
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Posted - 2009.09.13 01:52:00 -
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Please mail me with your location when you take the mom into 0.0 and I will come and scout for you for free, cos I am such a nice guy. Oh and just out of curiosity, do you usually pay ransoms?
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Rilwar
BlackStar Industrial
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Posted - 2009.09.13 02:54:00 -
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Really awful troll is really awful.
This doesn't even deserve a /10 rating.
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Robert0288
Caldari
g guild
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.09.13 04:54:00 -
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rzr lost 3 moms while ratting in a belt + numerous support. Your 1 mom is as good as dead. Buy a T3 ship instead.
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Unfamed II
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.09.13 11:07:00 -
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I'd just buy 2-3 characters on different accounts and be a d1ck empire wardeccing people. Linky legion and few guardians.
And of course then claim how awesome I'm in solo pvp. 
But hey it could be fun.
 Originally by: Sandslinger of CA
So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
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Dr Lebroi
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Posted - 2009.09.13 12:50:00 -
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Funny!
I guess you're the kinda guy who goes out walking around the Serengeti with rashers of bacon stuck to your jacket.
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Muad' Dib
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.09.13 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Unfamed II
I'd just buy 2-3 characters on different accounts and be a d1ck empire wardeccing people. Linky legion and few guardians.
And of course then claim how awesome I'm in solo pvp.
But hey it could be fun.
Or you could donate it to me ... *shakes begger's cup.
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Guillieme Lohran
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Posted - 2009.09.13 15:17:00 -
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Remember the tips from the section on capital ships:
EVERYONE WANTS A CAPITAL SHIP KILL MAIL. Remember that, EVERYONE wants one. FREAKIN EVERYONE! If your grandmother that doesnĈt play Eve heard about there awesomeness, sheĈd want one too.
So you would make a lot of people happy if you carry out your plan.
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Lord Helghast
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Posted - 2009.09.14 17:13:00 -
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Gotta agree, and im not a 0.0 dweller, uber fit a t3, and then go out, dont take a MOM into 0.0 especially not alone.
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Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.09.14 18:56:00 -
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The mom will end up dieing horribly, possibly in the first day if you don't have any experience with them.
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Drykor
Minmatar
Reikoku
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Posted - 2009.09.14 20:12:00 -
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It will die. On the first day.
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Rilwar
BlackStar Industrial
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Posted - 2009.09.14 20:33:00 -
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Edited by: Rilwar on 14/09/2009 20:33:46
Just because no one's said it yet;
Everyone within a 2 region span will be fleeting up to come rape your mom. 
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Radbagger
Minmatar
CLAN W0LF
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Posted - 2009.09.14 20:48:00 -
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Wow what a noob. Why don't you just give your isk away instead. You'll be better off that way and make some people happy and they wont be laughing at you.
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the plague
Scoopex
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.09.14 23:22:00 -
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Edited by: the plague on 14/09/2009 23:25:08
Assuming this isn't a blatant troll... I wish you could do it. EVE would be a more interesting game if it were possible to go really deep into space and operate alone like that. However, these guys are right. If you try to solo in 0.0 in a mothership, your ship is going to get targeted by a large blob very quickly once you are spotted and reported to the local powers that be. Motherships suck in their current form and definitely aren't worth the ISK vs. a regular carrier.
If you are really intent on doing this and no one can talk you out of it, then I suggest the following. Do your homework and scout out a good wormhole that hardly gets any traffic at all. Build a POS, bookmark a bunch of safe spots and learn everything there is to know about this wormhole and the people who go there. Then bring in your mothership and have fun. There's still a very good chance you'll eventually run into trouble and die, but you at least have some chance to survive for more than five minutes. If you're very careful, you might even actually profit for a while. But IMHO, it's extremely unlikely you will ever make enough profit to break even on that ship. It probably won't even be close.
Or, you can just send the Mothership to me and I'll see that it finds a good home.
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Pan Dora
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.09.15 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: the plague
If you are really intent on doing this and no one can talk you out of it, then I suggest the following. Do your homework and scout out a good wormhole that hardly gets any traffic at all. Build a POS, bookmark a bunch of safe spots and learn everything there is to know about this wormhole and the people who go there. Then bring in your mothership and have fun. There's still a very good chance you'll eventually run into trouble and die, but you at least have some chance to survive for more than five minutes. If you're very careful, you might even actually profit for a while. But IMHO, it's extremely unlikely you will ever make enough profit to break even on that ship. It probably won't even be close.
sound like a good plan...except that supercaps dont fit in wornmholes. 
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the plague
Scoopex
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.09.15 04:50:00 -
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Edited by: the plague on 15/09/2009 04:52:49
Originally by: Pan Dora
sound like a good plan...except that supercaps dont fit in wornmholes.
Are you absolutely certain about that? I admit, I've not tried to fit a supercap into a WH so you may be right. But if so, how did they make this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvNwJUlWgno
I see at least one Nyx fighting sleepers in that video.
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Sky Grunthor
Minmatar
Conflagration.
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.09.15 05:05:00 -
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Sisi battle where the devs spawned sleepers into K-Space. Far as I know, supercapitals are well beyond the max mass of any wormhole class. regular capitals will fit in the higher class ones though.
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the plague
Scoopex
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.09.15 05:15:00 -
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Edited by: the plague on 15/09/2009 05:16:34
Originally by: Sky Grunthor
Sisi battle where the devs spawned sleepers into K-Space. Far as I know, supercapitals are well beyond the max mass of any wormhole class. regular capitals will fit in the higher class ones though.
Okay. Not that I would take a MS there anyway, but I suppose it would be nice to have the option. [shrug]
I did read something one of the devs wrote about even greater dangers lurking in WH space and "who knows" what me might see pop up in the future. I can only speculate he meant we might eventually see Sleeper capital ships, which makes me wonder if even more dangerous classes of WH might be added in an expansion.
Anyone want to take on a fleet of Sleeper caps?
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Trazis
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Posted - 2009.09.15 05:36:00 -
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The only way to get a super cap in a wh is to build it there. That said if you did build a mom in a class 6 wh you could make quite a bit a profit as you could solo everything me thinks
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Baka Lakadaka
Gallente
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.09.15 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: Trazis
The only way to get a super cap in a wh is to build it there. That said if you did build a mom in a class 6 wh you could make quite a bit a profit as you could solo everything me thinks
Until some actual players turn up - then your Mother Ship would be toast.
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Darthewok
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.09.15 07:31:00 -
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Edited by: Darthewok on 15/09/2009 07:38:22
i think u should sell the motherrship and buy 30,000 rifters to practice with
edit: sorry for the wrong math, i forgot to factor in the cost of the mods for the rifter. with t1 mods you can only buy 20,000 rifters with the 60bln. oh, on 2nd thoughts thats not so great, thats only 54 rifters a day.
BTW 100/10 if its a troll, 100/10 cool factor if its legit.
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Pan Dora
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.09.15 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Trazis
The only way to get a super cap in a wh is to build it there. That said if you did build a mom in a class 6 wh you could make quite a bit a profit as you could solo everything me thinks
You dont need sov to build supercaps? Or that was only titans?
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Johnny Gurkha
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.15 15:58:00 -
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Voting this the most clueless thread I've read yet. Epic troll.
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Novantco
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.09.15 16:18:00 -
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Troll. Anyone crafty enough to earn 60b, wouldn't be dumb enough to throw it all away.
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the plague
Scoopex
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.09.15 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Novantco
Troll. Anyone crafty enough to earn 60b, wouldn't be dumb enough to throw it all away.
You have more faith in your fellow man than I do.
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Darthewok
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.09.15 16:29:00 -
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its poo but tastypoo
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Sky Grunthor
Minmatar
Conflagration.
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.09.15 18:07:00 -
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If I was crafty enough to earn 60b, I'd go get it blown up. What else am I going to do with it? eat it for breakfast?
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Joe Stalin
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Posted - 2009.09.15 22:38:00 -
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Just join an alliance that is already established in 0.0 and get their help to get your mothership out there if you want one that bad. You'll only want to use your mothership for fleet battles where you have help with you, cause a lone mothership will be announced on every intel and vent channel that there is in that region ASAP and you'll be reenacting the movie "The Hunt For Red October" within 5 minutes without backup.
Otherwise its better to either fly something cheap that you are totally fine losing everytime you fly, or something good at escaping gate camps like covert ops, interceptors, etc.
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